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Cal's honeymoon at Arkansas is already over

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Rockfly78 said:
Yeah Kentucky really didn’t meet any kind of demise similar to Memphis. When he left Memphis they were getting popped for D Rose and even still the fans and administration was begging for him to stay.

Kentucky’s demise at the end of the Cal era was more of a cultural implosion as a result of him
Staying. The fans were largely done and the AD wanted him gone but couldn’t realistically move him.

Basketball wise we didn’t suffer a lasting demise at all. A few months after it all went down we are still sitting here in top 10 with a bright future.

What we saw was the demise of Cal, not Kentucky.
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it hasn't been a full year yet - something could still be out there yet to be discovered
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Old timers

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Ripcord65 said:
My friends ... "old-timers" is a relative term ! It pleases me to no end to see some of you who were really too young to remember the '78 National Champs refer to yourselves as "old-timers." ! I, too, feel obligated to click whenever I see a reference to "old-timers" ... but that might be because I first saw a U.K. basketball game in person on January 30, 1954. I was 7 years old. U.K. beat Vandy in Nashville, 85-63. Frank Ramsey had 24 and Cliff Hagan had 22 ! Great stuff ! ! !

That was the year that U.K. went 25-0, and then declined an invite to the NCAA Tournament because the NCAA wouldn't let Hagan and Ramsey play in the tournament because they were grad students.

I was raised in southern Kentucky and we lived a lot closer to Nashville than to Lexington, so my father took me to several U.K. vs. Vandy games over the years. I remember the U.K. - Vandy game the next year, too - because that was Bob Burrow's first year at U.K. Some of y'all will remember that Burrow was a two-time first-team All-American at U.K. in '55 and '56. He transferred to U.K. from Lon Morris Junior College - a little Methodist school in Jacksonville, Texas.

Lots of U.K. memories ! I'm sure glad I've gotten to see Mark Pope take the head coaching job ! ! !
Go 'Cats ! ! !
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I recall the 72-73 team well because it was my junior year at UK. I remember us playing Alabama at Memorial Coliseum when they were pretty damn good with Ray Odoms, Reggie Cleveland, Leon Douglas, Wendel Hudson and Wayne Garret. We had beaten them at Tuscaloosa earlier that season and this was a huge game because then, you had to win the SEC in order to get an NCAA bid. I recall a friend of mine saying that we should put Stamper on Hudson, a guy who couldn't shoot from beyond about 10 feet, but feasted on offensive rebounds due to his athleticism. He thought Stamper would muscle him into submission. Joe B didn't have to resort to that because UK put it all together that night and as I recall, UK ran off the first 20 points of the game until Bama scored. I'm not sure, but I believe the final score was about 108-89. The game wasn't really that close either. We later had to beat UT in Lexington in our final league game to win the SEC. I remember that Stamper and Lyons both played well late in a very close and tense game that I think we won 86-82.
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Does Brea have a chance to have the highest 3FG percentage in ncaa history?

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BigKari said:
The fact that he didn’t even get up enough attempts to be a season qualifier in 3pt shooting will probably never not be enraging when I think about it.
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He definitely did not shoot enough during the SEC and NCAA tournament. Reeves and Dillingham both shot over 44% too, for the season. Dilly was a volume-shooter and mostly played together with Reed on the floor … only one ball.
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KY High School Football Playoffs

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Check out the drive Belfry has to make to get to Union County. Belfry is deep in the far Eastern Kentucky mountains and Union County is the largest corn producing county located far west. It’s at least a 7 hour drives. Those mountain boys are going to feel like they are on a different planet. Should be a helluva game though. Both teams are 11-2 and peaking. Belfry is a perennial power and UNion County has been getting better every year behind up and coming Coach Derek Johns. They just got finished dominating Hart County who was undefeated.
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For you old timers, Whatever happened to Larry Johnson who played PG for us from 1973-1977

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rockhound24 said:
I also remember this game as well. UNC played a great first half and led 53-41 at the half. UK came out as a different team in the 2nd half. UNC went to the 4 corners with 15 minutes left in the game. UK continued to chop away at the lead and got it down to 1-2 points with a minute or two left. UNC hit FTs and sealed a win that I still despise to this day. For the game UNC shot 33-36 from the line while UK was 16-18. Steve Krafcisin and John Kuester combined to score 27 points with 21 of those points were FTs. SMH!
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I believe Kuester went 21/21 from the line. If he had missed one or two front ends, UK probably wins a Natty.
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Lots of bitter people out there

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IL Wildcat said:
Yeah, I hear you Rockfly. I defended him also, for much longer than he deserved. During those last 3 seasons, I wasn't happy with the product we were getting. I just felt since I knew we weren't going to fire him mid-season, I would just support the team and hope for the best. That was my approach until we finished with a first round loss to Texas A&M in the SEC-T followed by that Oakland loss. I had an outside hope that with the talent on that team, they could make a run. And there is no questioning the talent on that team. But in the end, all that talent was just the final nail in his coffin. My thought became- if he can't get out of the first round of the SEC or the NCAA tournaments with this team, he will never do it.

At that point, the REAL issue wasn't player personnel, assistant coaches, and it certainly wasn't the fans. The problem was John Calipari, and he had to go.
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It’s a strange thing to observe and you mentioned it. You said you knew we weren’t going to fire him and all you could do was hope for the best. That was me all the way. It’s how I’m wired. I simply can’t wish things into existence so I don’t try. I just try to cope with what’s available. The fanbase to me has a major disconnect with fans who take this stance. It’s almost as if to say if a person can’t match my rage then they must be my enemy. We all have one thing in common, we are all huge UK fans. We all want to win. But when a situation becomes so far out of the control of the fans then to me, you just have to roll with it. That doesn’t mean I’m happy with where we are or happy with the coaches.

I’m trying to see it from the other perspective even though it’s perplexing. People will say “he’s not pissed enough so he’s a cal lover or a stoops lover”. That’s usually not the case. People just deal with apathy differently.

Good thread
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For you old timers, Whatever happened to Larry Johnson who played PG for us from 1973-1977

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rockhound24 said:
I also remember this game as well. UNC played a great first half and led 53-41 at the half. UK came out as a different team in the 2nd half. UNC went to the 4 corners with 15 minutes left in the game. UK continued to chop away at the lead and got it down to 1-2 points with a minute or two left. UNC hit FTs and sealed a win that I still despise to this day. For the game UNC shot 33-36 from the line while UK was 16-18. Steve Krafcisin and John Kuester combined to score 27 points with 21 of those points were FTs. SMH!
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I remember that as THE most frustrating UK game I've ever watched. I also remember it exactly the way you do. Many who saw that team might not agree with me, but I thought that 1977 team with LJ was a better team than the 1978 team that won it all. That team was just so good at ball movement and Shidler was much better that year as a starter than he was as a sub in 1978. I thought LJ's presence made us much better defensively and much quicker than the 78 team with Macy running the point. Yes, I know Macy was an AA, but I just think that team was better and had there been a 30 second clock in 1977, we would have beaten UNC and gone on to win it all.
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Kalkbrenner (Creighton) 90.5% from 2pt range

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EliteBlue said:
man I really hope they don’t do that…talk about completely bastardizing the game with a stupid rule to “fix” something that isn’t broken. Much less who gets to decide what is “challenged” or not. There are varying levels of challenging and that’s highly subjective. Also encourages more ppl to not jump and challenge the dunk more than anything…not only do you risk a foul but also giving an additional point by challenging. If you hate that the game is so 3 pt dominant now and the big man has been neglected you’d be better off removing the 3 pt line or backing it up another 3 feet
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I'm in agreement, they sure don't need to fix what ain't broken....

What would do this sport an infinite amount of benefit would be to have this :

Make NCAA officials salaried employees and have them held accountable by a panel of overseers as well as themselves. Make them answer to calls post game and have the various conferences monitor them as another measure of accountability and control.

Some games are so horribly officiated they're impossible to watch and enjoy.


NCAA officiating has been neglected for far too long. PUT THEM under the microscope and clean the game up that way.

But of course, they'll never do that.
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Should we keep making more pennies?

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The “getting rid of the penny because it would hurt the poor” nonsense reminds me of the “we can’t have voter ID because black people cant get IDs” crap. It’s insulting to poor people. They aren’t financially strapped because of a few cents here or there. Especially when unemployment is low and even the lowest paying jobs start at around $12 an hour.
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