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"Would you like to buy a piece of Alex Jones?"

Sad thing is, dude actually doesn't believe anything he screams about. In today's world, the loudest voice with the most absurd opinions get the most attention. Unfortunately, there are millions who want to believe in someone and they gravitate to the loud person who says crazy things. I get playing to your base but it'd be hard to live with myself after spreading a conspiracy about a school shooting and students being crisis actors as parents of dead children from that shooting are asking me to stop. Whatever a soul actually is, Alex Jones doesn't have one.
 
I moved to ATX in July, 1998. Alex Jones hosted a radio show on KJFK at the time called The Final Edition. Listened to it maybe twice, if I recall. Back then I was usually away, deployed somewhere.

Thought Jones fit the eccentric crackpot mold during late 90s/early 2000s. After his Sandy Hook antics, I became disgusted by his rhetoric. Yeah, I poke fun at him over in Political thread. He deserves whatever financial hardships may happen.
 
The federal government hasn’t exactly done anything to help bolster their credibility, but the scary thing about Alex Jones isn’t that he’s a pandering maniac. It’s that that 20 years ago he would’ve been considered a fringe guy barely anyone has hard of… and today he’s considered mainstream to a lot of people. The internet is fried the collective minds of the American public
 
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I remember listening to Alex Jones talk about how 9/11 was fake back in Austin in 2005. I thought he was nuts. What he said about Sandy Hook was abhorrent too.

But nothing anyone can say should cause you to be sued for hundreds of millions.
 
I remember listening to Alex Jones talk about how 9/11 was fake back in Austin in 2005. I thought he was nuts. What he said about Sandy Hook was abhorrent too.

But nothing anyone can say should cause you to be sued for hundreds of millions.
If I yell “fire!” in a movie theater, is that free speech?
 
I mean it’s political persecution and nothing more. One guy saying something was a hoax means you get to be destroyed forever? How did they even prove damages for such a thing? We literally watched DNC media members like Joy Reid push that Trump wasn’t actually shot and it was a hoax yet no one sued them into oblivion.

No one went to jail over the Russia hoax which is outrageous. Regardless how one feels about this guy, this is just another example of Democrats weaponizing the courts. What they have done the last couple of years is insane- Capitol protesters, Bannon, Trump, Jones, Stone, etc.
 
If your entire empire is based on lies, it will eventually crumble and no one will feel sorry for you. Jones knew what he was doing, caused further emotional pain, and I believe I once read that some of his listeners began harassing those who lost children in the shooting.

On the Paddock, posters will occasionally talk of karma or evil; of the world not being what it used to be. Alex Jones and his obvious lies are apart of that. The most pathetic part of it might be that so many went along with it. Along the way, an idea rose that if you didn't question literally everything good and bad, you were deemed a sheep and a follower. A shooting wasn't a shooting anymore, it was a false flag and a ruse for a larger, more sinister goal. Meanwhile, his listeners became the sheep, and he their leader.
 
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The only thing that really gave Alex Jones any credibility was his investigation on Bohemian Grove, where weird ass rich powerful people were in fact doing weird shit in the woods like burning owl effigies. Those weird mofos didn’t do the “elite” any favors, but it also wasn’t as secretive as it was made out to be. I believe it was either Nixon or Reagan who called the event “f@ggy”.
 
No it’s not.


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Jones was sued for defamation because he had claimed that the Sandy Hook family members were not really victims but were actors. He didn't defend the case and a default judgment was entered. The vast majority of the award was punitive damages.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is totally different because it is not defamation.
 
Jones was sued for defamation because he had claimed that the Sandy Hook family members were not really victims but were actors. He didn't defend the case and a default judgment was entered. The vast majority of the award was punitive damages.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is totally different because it is not defamation.

He also perjured himself during the penalty phase
 
I mean it’s political persecution and nothing more. One guy saying something was a hoax means you get to be destroyed forever? How did they even prove damages for such a thing? We literally watched DNC media members like Joy Reid push that Trump wasn’t actually shot and it was a hoax yet no one sued them into oblivion.

No one went to jail over the Russia hoax which is outrageous. Regardless how one feels about this guy, this is just another example of Democrats weaponizing the courts. What they have done the last couple of years is insane- Capitol protesters, Bannon, Trump, Jones, Stone, etc.

This reads like someone who listens to Alex Jones. Somehow Jones putting his foot in his own mouth repeatedly over the years is the fault of everyone else in society. Believing the world should feel sorry for insurrectionists and people like Alex Jones and Roger Stone is a choice though. An incorrect one, but a choice nevertheless.
 
Recently a VP candidate made the same mistake you’re making. Plenty of recent articles explaining why you’re wrong.

You're not even making an argument my man. You're just saying "Yeah you can intentionally yell FIRE! in a theater and that's free speech!"

ok ok ok
 
Jones was sued for defamation because he had claimed that the Sandy Hook family members were not really victims but were actors. He didn't defend the case and a default judgment was entered. The vast majority of the award was punitive damages.

Yelling fire in a crowded theater is totally different because it is not defamation.

No one has claimed that yelling fire in a theater is exactly analogous to the Alex Jones case. What is analogous, however, is that you can be held liable for damages of speech. And that's precisely what happened with Alex Jones. So, no, it's not totally different. In both cases, either monetary, emotional or psychological damages are caused by willful deception.
 
You’re wrong again.


I’ll stop pointing out how KAB is wrong about everything and let you guys get back to your Alex Jones talk.

I tell you what, bub. I'll indulge is this ridiculousness. There are clearly limits to free speech, whether you acknowledge them or not. As noted, slander and libel laws are also real.

But regardless of that, go to a football game. Stand on your seat. Yell "HE'S GOT A GUN!" And see if you don't get charged.

Then argue there are no limits to free speech.
 
I remember listening to Alex Jones talk about how 9/11 was fake back in Austin in 2005. I thought he was nuts. What he said about Sandy Hook was abhorrent too.

But nothing anyone can say should cause you to be sued for hundreds of millions.
Didn’t you wig out because a psycho was riding around your kids school with guns? (Legal open carry)

Can you imagine how the Sandy parents feel when someone profits by broadcasting that they are paid actors and their children were not murdered?
 
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This will never not be weird as hell. Laughing before a press conference where you then start up the tears on cue? When have you ever seen that?

 
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If your entire empire is based on lies, it will eventually crumble and no one will feel sorry for you. Jones knew what he was doing, caused further emotional pain, and I believe I once read that some of his listeners began harassing those who lost children in the shooting.

On the Paddock, posters will occasionally talk of karma or evil; of the world not being what it used to be. Alex Jones and his obvious lies are apart of that. The most pathetic part of it might be that so many went along with it. Along the way, an idea rose that if you didn't question literally everything good and bad, you were deemed a sheep and a follower. A shooting wasn't a shooting anymore, it was a false flag and a ruse for a larger, more sinister goal. Meanwhile, his listeners became the sheep, and he their leader.
There is a lot of truth in this.
 
I tell you what, bub. I'll indulge is this ridiculousness. There are clearly limits to free speech, whether you acknowledge them or not. As noted, slander and libel laws are also real.

But regardless of that, go to a football game. Stand on your seat. Yell "HE'S GOT A GUN!" And see if you don't get charged.

Then argue there are no limits to free speech.


No one said anything you’re rambling about. Go back to your original post and read through to refresh your memory.
 
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Didn’t you wig out because a psycho was riding around your kids school with guns? (Legal open carry)

Can you imagine how the Sandy parents feel when someone profits by broadcasting that they are paid actors and their children were not murdered?

1) I wigged out because a guy was sort of threatening to shoot up my kid's school.

2) I can try to imagine what they went through, but it likely pales in comparison to what they really felt. And while Alex Jones deserves to have his ass kicked for saying that stuff (frankly, what he deserves), I'm not sure if I agree that $900M in damages are warranted for saying that stuff. To put it in perspective, Boeing killed hundreds of people due to issues with 737 Max and set aside $600M for the lawsuit. Jones didn't kill anyone, he just said extremely insensitive stuff.
 
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