I don't think I want Coley either. Good recruiter but I don't think anything special as a coordinator.
Who is our next OC?
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Yes, as their TE's coach. But it may not be official yet.
When Tee Martin was at UK on Jokers staff he was Coen job searching - on steroids. Dude chased other jobs more than recruits.
I’m honestly not trying to negative, but it’s time to consider a fresh start at head coach. I don’t necessarily think anyone else will do better, but I’d like to see Sumrall get that chance.
The Texas A&M deal and constant turnover at OC are going to be difficult to overcome at this point.
The Texas A&M deal and constant turnover at OC are going to be difficult to overcome at this point.
Moorhead is the modern day norm chow in terms of amazing oc but crappy hc. Moorhead greatly succeeded everywhere he was an OC. In cfb there are very few sure things as a hire, but he would be a sure thing.
The only problem is his lack of charisma. Most UK fans were swooning over coen's obvious bs to the point it was beyond absurd. To those fans, coen never did wrong. Moorhead is the complete opposite personality and sadly I don't know if our fans will be on board.
Rowland said with all the talk recently of Coen possibly leaving that Stoops does have a plan in place FWIW. SB Nation said Rees would be a good hire. In three years at ND they averaged in the 30's on offense all three years. But they also listed several coaches that didn't sound so good to me. Luckily the next portal is not till April 15th.
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The funny thing about the OC revolving door is UK fans are partly to blame. The vocal fanbase revolted against gran, who was really good and would've retired here, because he played boring (but winning) football.
They got everything they wanted and more in the charismatic coen and big armed Levis. Somehow wandale is left out of that convo even though he was the real MVP.
After coen jilted us, we get another good (not great) OC who is renowned in the world of QB development. He was nerdy and fans didn't like him. He would've been here for awhile but coen pushed him out just to leave again.
Only once was coen ever honest about his loyalty. In coen's introductory virtual press conference, he was asked about leaving the NFL for UK and he said "money. They're paying me more". Then he laughed and smiled while the reporters all gave him heart eyes.
I think most of us here are looking the wrong direction. Instead of looking up to the NFL or to upper college level we need to be looking for an EXCEPTIONAL, youngish, proven high school coach with a great offensive system, and an ability to connect with high school and college talent.
Sign him to a good contract with a huge buyout for anyone wanting to poach him.
Sign him to a good contract with a huge buyout for anyone wanting to poach him.
Buster is a Todd Munken protege, worked with him at a couple of stops. Many thought he would be Monken's replacement at UGA when Monken left, we all knew he would just depended on how long, but Tech come calling and he took the job. Good coach, and you could do worse.
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McClendon is UGA's WR coach, as a recruiter he was much better when he was recruiting RB's, not been as strong as WR coach. But I think he does ok on the coaching side. He was OC, at South Carolina for awhile, didn't work out. Coley is a better recruiter for WR talent, he is very popular in the Miami area, he is a failure as OC at multiple stops. Both those coached at UGA, I don't think either would be a first option as OC but of the 2 McClendon would be my choice.
Would have no problem with Buster, any idea what his Ga Tech salary is? What kind of recruiter is he?
Rowland, this site's big guy, seems to think Rees is likely. He'd seem to be Coen 2.0...one eye on the practice field the other on the Want Ads.
Think Coley was at FSU with Stoops. I recall when Stoops was hired he was looked on as a likely asst...never happened.
I got back from lunch and Liam was in our lobby with a resume. I said I'm sorry we're not hiring right now and he said, "do you know anybody else who is? So I gave him Amazons number and the Bucs
It said that Coley would be a 'solid' hire. But in this league it better be a 'can't miss' hire if we expect to stay prominent.
Don't know his salary but Monken wasn't much of one, QB recruits always mentioned Buster, so at least decent.
Rees wouldn't be spectular, but Bama may be looking for an OC too, Grubb who followed Debore from Washington is reportedly interviewing with Seattle for the OC there. Of course that doesn't mean Rees is getting that job or would be interested, just possibly another SEC opening for OC.
If that's the route UK wants to go its up to it, but if UGA wanted to bring him back as OC there would be a revolt.
Dont be surprised if Eddie has to take over for a year.
Coley has a rather abysmal history as an OC. I want no part of him.
Of the names being mentioned, I like Joe Moorhead and Will Stein best, followed by Rees and Buster Faulkner.
Of the names being mentioned, I like Joe Moorhead and Will Stein best, followed by Rees and Buster Faulkner.
Faulkner and Rees for me. Guess it's just me but Morehead, who had modest success in the past as an OC, has the personality of a turnip.
Are we in a position of prominence? We beat the directional schools and the bottom of the league every year, usually getting embarrassed anytime we face our peers or our betters in league play.
Faulkner makes ~$750k at GATech. We could give him a substantial raise. Supposedly Stetson Bennett credits Buster with his development. I think Brock & his dad like Faulkner. I think he is my #1 choice.
Stoops already has a plan in place to replace Coen; Brock Vandagriff sticking with the Cats
Kentucky is looking for a new offensive coordinator again after the departure of Liam Coen.www.aseaofblue.com
I mean compared to the way we used to be we are at least respected a lot more.
I don’t see him leaving as being that big a loss. He’s overrated. I give him a year in TB and when they fire the head coach, he will be unemployed again. Our offense last year did not set the world on fire. The new OC will have some great players to work with one way or the other. Be glad this distraction is gone and let’s focus on Spring practice.
I think he had more than modest success. Why does his personality matter? Wouldn't we rather win games than be wooed?
5-10 years ago I'd be all in on Moorehead. Prefer a Faulkner/Rees type now.
As for personality...the guy has to be able to recruit. I want a guy who comes across as a football coach not a Third Period Algebra teacher.
You would be in the minority. He had virtually no vertical passing game. Route concepts were terrible. An awful run scheme without any creativity. Only runs he called were inside zone. An awful display of offense from a team that had 5 star talent at every position. Alabama had more talent than every team they played last year and struggled offensively against far lesser talent. The numbers show he was bad. It’s not an opinion, it’s fact.
Imagine UK football getting to the point some fans are turning their noses up at the idea we hire as our OC a former OC at Notre Dame and Bama. Who just called the plays as they slayed 2 time defending champ Georgia & took eventual Natl Champ Michigan to OT.
Don't know if it is even possible. But UK could do a helluvalot worse than Tommy Rees
Don't know if it is even possible. But UK could do a helluvalot worse than Tommy Rees
I think that is a fair statement about Stetson and faulkner. Monken was much more about scheme and cresting mismatches.
I agree it's important for recruiting and, as good as coen was in other areas, recruiting was really where he was as good as anyone.
But it's also important to note our fanbase loves to be sold. It's sad the fanbase can't look past that if the guy is a proven commodity like moorehead
Odd thing is Coen's doing nothing more than 99% of people on this board would do if given the chance, even the anti-UK football/anti-Stoops people if they had any ambition at all. Can make the argument it hasn't been handled well but how much of the reaction is based on fact and how much on knee-jerk reaction?
My only "reaction" is one of amazement because there aren't many coaches out there that would take a big pay cut from an SEC school to go to the NFL with your future hinging on the success of FREAKIN Baker Mayfield!!!!
That is BEYOND hilarious!!!!
Helton might be a sneaky good hire
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