What I've heard over the last week (COACH)...
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Are you talking about this coming season? I don't see the reasoning for a redshirt for SKJ this coming season. I doubt he stays for a 5th year of college.
When word broke that Cal was on the Pitt staff when Cam Johnson Father was a player at Pitt that told me that if Cal wants this guy he is UK 100%.
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I thought Jones did for a few times that year. Not very much, but I still thought I remembered him handling the ball for a few possessions here and there. I think it was talked about more than actually happening, but maybe I'm remembering wrong.
Thank you Coach, Would be great to get Bam back & Bamba sign.
No doubt he grabbed a rebound and took it the other end at times, definitley capable of that. Not sure I ever remember us taking the ball out of bounds to him and he walk it up.
I wouldn't think it would be too big of a deal unless Bamba believe UK is too loaded at the 4/5.
Bamba should know he's going to play where ever he's at.
I'll keep an ear open.
I hope Bam can find a home just remember that foreign players knock some prospects out or down the first round every year.
Oh I totally agree Bamba wants to be a 4 but he just ain't . Maybe eventually in a few years but not now . And Richards is a beast who is only getting better . I mean scouts have him as a lotto pick next season so of coarse no one should sleep on him. Most teams would love for him to be their starting center but due to his lack of offensive prowess ( though I think he has a little more then bamba) i would love to have Bam back. Bamba is just an other worldly defender . He changes whole games with his blocks , steals ect. He is a one man wrecking crew on D like Noel was. I will never forget how he beat Ole MIss by himself with defense.
In slight defense of GG and I do mean slight, I remembered the Cal talk of TJ playing point and did a quick search and came up with this; (It was more in defense of my memory than anything else.) I was more of a UK reading junky than I am now but the GG post jogged my memory a bit......
It's down further in the quotes section...
http://ukrecruiting.bloginky.com/2010-recruiting-class-player-profiles/profile-of-terrence-jones/
He has time and time again brought info that pans out . So pretty lame , uninformed post. I forget what he coaches but he has been a great source of info once every month or 2. He doesn't spend a ton of time here but he is nice enough to drop knowledge on us from time to time.
If Bam and Bamba are both here clearly there are def going to be some guys with their minutes cut short. If these guys play 30 minutes a game, that leaves 20 minutes total for Gabriel, SKJ and Richards. That is assuming Vanderbilt and Washington play only at the 3. Really going to be crowded.
Someone out of the freshman class prob will get outplayed just like Wenyen and SKJ did. For some reason some think they will come in running even though the past two seasons have shown that at least one will struggle
Wouldn't surprise me to see Bam have a Blake Griffin like soph year seeing as he had a Blake type freshman year. Doesn't mean he will be POY but dropping 20ppg and 10 or more reb with 2 blocks is very reasonable
Difference between Bam and Skal is hat Skal could do something teams fall in love with due to how he game has evolved to, and that would be big men with range. Bam isn't close to the shooter Skal is even though he's a better rebounder and bigger. Just being athletic and big isn't as sought after unless you're a rim protector which Bam isn't right now and since he's not a shooter he is further down the list of bigs teams will pick.
Bam is strongly behind at least 10 bigs according to scouts with each big either being more versatile, better shooter or better rebounder. So even if he has a shot streak in workouts as far as shooting, the other bigs will probably be even hotter. Imo it's very likely he comes back and becomes a top 10 with a chance to become a top 5 pick
Bam is strongly behind at least 10 bigs according to scouts with each big either being more versatile, better shooter or better rebounder. So even if he has a shot streak in workouts as far as shooting, the other bigs will probably be even hotter. Imo it's very likely he comes back and becomes a top 10 with a chance to become a top 5 pick
this is my feeling on each - could be gas - but it is my feeling
1. Knox- Latest buzz has been Duke has been coming strong. I think it's Duke/UNC/UK in that order right now. - I see him at Mizzou - seems funny Duke just offered Smith out of Illini
2. Bamba- UK until I hear something credible enough to change my mind. Mo really likes Shaka that is why you hear some Texas stuff. Writers take that and run, well Texas is also leaking that. - I think he is a UK guy - and if he chooses Texas over UK - it is ONLY because of Shaka - but this is kid is way too smart not to put himself in the position like Boogie, AD, KAT, WCS, Skal......
3. Cam Johnson- Pitt guy is still set for UK. Florida is fall back plan right now. Good player, question if there is room. - He wants us more than we want him but we have to wait and is he willing?
The BIG ONE...
4. Big Bam Abedeyo- I've heard by someone close to him, he's coming back to UK unless his stock increases here soon - . - I see him like Skal - works out - teams go WOW we can make him something in a little while and Boom he is up in early 20's
Thanks for the news OP.
I don't quite understand though how there couldn't be room for Johnson. We are currently at 10. I guess if Bam returned, AND we got Bamba, AND we got Knox, then that would fill us at 13. But otherwise we would have room for Johnson.
Although personally I would prefer Johnson to Knox.
1) he is a proven major conference D1 player
2) he is a 2G that can play SF, instead of a SF that maybe can play 2G (& 2G is our big need)
3) he is a proven 3pt shooter
4) he would instantly be our most experienced player (by a lot if Bam doesn't return)
I don't quite understand though how there couldn't be room for Johnson. We are currently at 10. I guess if Bam returned, AND we got Bamba, AND we got Knox, then that would fill us at 13. But otherwise we would have room for Johnson.
Although personally I would prefer Johnson to Knox.
1) he is a proven major conference D1 player
2) he is a 2G that can play SF, instead of a SF that maybe can play 2G (& 2G is our big need)
3) he is a proven 3pt shooter
4) he would instantly be our most experienced player (by a lot if Bam doesn't return)
Let's put it this way- I see no way that Wenyen Gabriel plays ahead of Jarred Vanderbilt or PJ Washington. Unfortunately for Gabriel, his strengths weren't as strong as they were supposed to be, and his weaknesses were weaker than expected. A lot of the expectations surrounding him were built on potential, not what you saw him doing on the basketball court. Vanderbilt and Washington, OTOH, have legitimate, no-doubt-about-it skills that Gabriel doesn't have. And that's not likely to change in 6 months. You throw Bam and Bamba into the mix, and it's hard to see how Gabriel doesn't get buried.
If word comes out that Bam is back and we get Bamba, I would be really surprised if Gabriel and SKJ came back. I mean these guys would get more PT in the D League than they would at UK.
What is really tricky is the Bam decision and thus maybe the Bamba decision may not happen for another month. That is why I don't really understand why Hump didn't let things play out before he decided to leave.
Just isn't natural to him, at least not at the moment. It doesn't help a ton that he's "only" 6'10, which limits him as an elite shot blocker, and his 7'1.5" wingspan is ever-so-slightly above average for a power forward, below average for a center. That's partly why he needs to come back, needs to show he can play as a 4. Needs to show more skill overall, and needs to have a full season as a dominant rebounder, rather than the last 12-13 games or so.
If he can extend his range to a corner 3, rebound at a very high level, run the floor well, and be a versatile perimeter defender, and a stout post-defender that doesn't give up position or foul a lot, he'll be a high lottery pick. He has the ability to do these things, just needs to do them with consistency, and thanks to Richards (possibly Bamba too), he'll get to display that. He won't be forced to play a position that he shouldn't be at anymore.
I think many (^) value the unknown too much every year. Just 6 months ago many thought Gabriel would be a monster. The skills he had, he still has. He just needs more refinement of those skills. Who knows, JV &/or PJW could come in and struggle like WG did, or they could come in and dominate. You never know!!!
I think Gabriel could have no more impact/improvement than last year play less than last year if JV & PJW both live up to their clippings, OR I think he could be the best of the 3 forwards, and maybe be our best player (14 & 9).
Yeah zero chance those guys play ahead of Vanderbilt. I wouldn't be surprised if he and Diallo play the most minutes as those 2 are the most unique guys we have and can do it all ( well besides being great 3 pt shooters but neither are bad either). But Gabriel will play a good amount and he could surprise us and play more then we expect . I still think he will have a good season and be a late first round pick next season.
I think it's fair to say that Vando is a more versatile player, and has shown more.
He's bigger than Wenyen, handles the ball significantly better, defends better and more aggressively, rebounds his ass off, has a much higher basketball IQ, and is a better passer. Really, just appears to be better in every facet of the game, and has the chance to be a transcendent talent.
Thanks for the answer. He seems to fumble the ball quite often when passed into on the post. Also, seems to not know what to do with it sometimes. Some possessions he looks unstoppable, others he stops himself.
Bam, or lack there of, will determine how next season ends up.
He is worth at least 3 games. A big early season OOC match up, a crucial conference game, and a game in the big dance.
He is worth at least 3 games. A big early season OOC match up, a crucial conference game, and a game in the big dance.
Gabriel is a better shooter. He has very good form compared to Vanderbilt. I don't think Gabriel will be fighting Vanderbilt for minutes anyway if Vanderbilt plays SF.
how would they get PT next year? they would still be sitting out...I don't think it makes sense to leave...they would know that Bam and Bamba would be gone after next season. They would be practicing against some really good players. They can be the lead men in 2018-19 and go pro after that season.
Maybe so, but unless you can contribute anything better, your opinion doesn't mean a thing.
One thing for sure with Cal is you know every year a new freshman is coming in. If we get Bagley this kid is playing 35 minutes if he wants too. If Richards comes back then basically all the playing time at the 4 and 5 is gone in 2018-2019 as well.
Yep. Players these days are con artists and say things for smokescreen. Don't blame them though
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