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VT's Kerry Blackshear enters transfer portal

This is actually very very common but it just isn’t said in public. Keith Bogans has his mom running things the same way, same with Derrick Rose and his brothers. There are countless parents and family members who do this especially since kids are easily influenced, most would commit on the a lot to the first school they visit because they make decisions off emotion, the father or family is there to make sure the kid makes a smart decision and not a emotional one. Growing up as a recruited athlete and a family full of recruited athletes we had our mom, uncles, dad in my nephews case, running point.




I have no problem with his dad offering advice or being involved. I have an issue with his dad controlling it when he is 22. If this is common why can no one point to another instance of similarity? Did your dad do your job applications and interviews for you at 22? Of course not because no one would hire you. Hell, my dad didn't even do that at 15 when I started working and I was a minor.

If he was a pro, do you think his franchise would want their dad managing the player and telling them what will and won't be acceptable or impressive to him and his son?

Parents could and should give advice and support. They should not manage and control it for you at 22 years old.

You all seem to really struggle with the differences between them. Must be a generational thing.
 
You sure are mad over nothing.
What am I mad about? When did pointing out an oddity of something become intertwined with anger? Seems like an odd leap.

You have been rustled. Easy to see when you have to start changing someone else's post. Nice try though.
If I am "rustled" you must be enraged judging by your meltdown over an opposing view. :popcorn:
 
What am I mad about? When did pointing out an oddity of something become intertwined with anger? Seems like an odd leap.


If I am "rustled" you must be enraged judging by your meltdown over an opposing view. :popcorn:
I am very calm knowing I am right and you are wrong.
 
Link please.
The Atlantic, Kyle Tucker, KSR, Matt Jones. Which is your preference?

This is actually very very common but it just isn’t said in public. Keith Bogans has his mom running things the same way, same with Derrick Rose and his brothers. There are countless parents and family members who do this especially since kids are easily influenced, most would commit on the a lot to the first school they visit because they make decisions off emotion, the father or family is there to make sure the kid makes a smart decision and not a emotional one. Growing up as a recruited athlete and a family full of recruited athletes we had our mom, uncles, dad in my nephews case, running point.
Helping out a high schooler is one thing, managing the transfer of a 22 yo man who has played 3 years already and knows the in and outs is another thing entirely. This isn't really a negotiation or deal to be made, unless of course its DUKE, AZ or LSU involved

So not sure why he would really even need that much help. He is looking for the best place to showcase his skills, develop more of his game and make it to the NBA. Obviously he knows the schools where that is most likely. At least he surely to God should by now. So how help should he really need? He has literally been living this everyday the last 3 years and probably a couple before that in high school.

Exactly. I don’t know what’s wrong with some people who think a 22 year old is. 40 year old. How many 22 year old college kids don’t have their parents helping or making big decisions for them especially when their dad is a former college and pro player so he knows exactly what he’s talking about.
There is nothing wrong with helping or advising, but leading and doing is a bit much. Would your dad have filled out your job application, fielded your interviews and spoke with your potential employers on your behalf at 22? Would he have called you college professors and advisers and spoke to them on your behalf at 22 years old? Why not?

Again, helping is one thing, taking charge and leading this is another and from his statements it sure sounds as if this is the case.

I am very calm knowing I am right and you are wrong.

Ohh dear, You might want to see if you can find someone to read you the definition of calm and explain the meaning. :oops:
 
The Atlantic, Kyle Tucker, KSR, Matt Jones. Which is your preference?


Helping out a high schooler is one thing, managing the transfer of a 22 yo man who has played 3 years already and knows the in and outs is another thing entirely. This isn't really a negotiation or deal to be made, unless of course its DUKE, AZ or LSU involved

So not sure why he would really even need that much help. He is looking for the best place to showcase his skills, develop more of his game and make it to the NBA. Obviously he knows the schools where that is most likely. At least he surely to God should by now. So how help should he really need? He has literally been living this everyday the last 3 years and probably a couple before that in high school.

There is nothing wrong with helping or advising, but leading and doing is a bit much. Would your dad have filled out your job application, fielded your interviews and spoke with your potential employers on your behalf at 22? Would he have called you college professors and advisers and spoke to them on your behalf at 22 years old? Why not?

Again, helping is one thing, taking charge and leading this is another and from his statements it sure sounds as if this is the case.



Ohh dear, You might want to see if you can find someone to read you the definition of calm and explain the meaning. :oops:
I would have to get someone to read it to me. Evidently you can't read and looks like you are finally admitting it.
 
Who has said he should not dsicuss with his family. I even encouraged it, but they shouldnt be handling the process and making the decision, talking to coaches and media. They certainly shouldn't be saying publicly what they will fine satisfactory. At 22 years old your family shouldnt be calling the shots unless you're too immature or lack the confidence. Which points to a problem if so.

Big difference between the 2. Do you not see the problem there?



As you should, but would you have you pops fill out your applications and field your interviews? Would you have him list the places you should work and that he feels are acceptable for you? Do you feel like you would have much success?

If you played for the NBA, would you want your dad calling up the coaches and front office telling them what is and isn't acceptable, impressive or is going to fly? How would you expect them to respond?
Who the hell are you? Who made you the authority on how a family conducts their business? Go back and read the bolded part of your post. Do you not see how ridiculous you're coming off?

Run your family the way you want, just know, every family is different and in case you haven't noticed, you are the only one arguing this ridiculous point.

You're that one ugly chick in the group of hotties that doesn't realize you're butt ugly.
 
We had Julius Mays a few years back and I don't recall his dad handling things. There have been countless others around the country and I don't recall their dad being as involved as KB's seems to be. I am all for getting advice and feedback from family, friends, coaches and advisers. I find it very odd when the dad is making comments about how the process will go down and what they will and won't be impressed with. Seemed very much like dad was in charge. Hope I am wrong.

He is very unlikely to be invited to the combine if he is not top 100. They only invite around 60. Also, you would think he would want to tone up on his interview skills if he was going to be interviewing with teams and media there.
1 there usually aren’t grad transfers that bring as much to the table as Blackshear. He’s a difference maker
2. He does not appear to have a good idea yet as to where he will land
3 UK is involved, when Uk is involved it’s a story
4. People are reaching out and talking to his dad. He’s just answering their questions
5. The fact anyone has issues with a dad helping out his son at any age is what’s odd here. Not the Blackshears.

Also before you use Reid Travis as an example to support your dad shouldn’t help his son argument UK and Reid were pretty far down the road of done deal by the time his situation played out and UK was the clear front runner the entire time.
Just put me in the side as a dad where I don’t understand anyone taking issue with a dad helping his dad for any reason. To each their own I guess.
 
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Who the hell are you? Who made you the authority on how a family conducts their business? Go back and read the bolded part of your post. Do you not see how ridiculous you're coming off?

Run your family the way you want, just know, every family is different and in case you haven't noticed, you are the only one arguing this ridiculous point.

You're that one ugly chick in the group of hotties that doesn't realize you're butt ugly.

Jeff - you’re wasting your time with this guy. He’s arguing for the sake of it. Probably is bored and has nothing else to do? Whatever the case, you’re arguing with a lamp post.
 
Did anyone mention if there was an expiration date for the portal? Does it just extend to the school semester start/end dates?
 
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Most of them manage it and then let the kid make the final decision. How is that different from pros letting managers and agent manage their destination then they make the final decision? And that’s grown men. Same with tv personalities who are 30-70 and coaches who let managers and agent manage their decision. This is beyond common for college athletes except the only difference is it’s not publicized


The Atlantic, Kyle Tucker, KSR, Matt Jones. Which is your preference?


Helping out a high schooler is one thing, managing the transfer of a 22 yo man who has played 3 years already and knows the in and outs is another thing entirely. This isn't really a negotiation or deal to be made, unless of course its DUKE, AZ or LSU involved

So not sure why he would really even need that much help. He is looking for the best place to showcase his skills, develop more of his game and make it to the NBA. Obviously he knows the schools where that is most likely. At least he surely to God should by now. So how help should he really need? He has literally been living this everyday the last 3 years and probably a couple before that in high school.

There is nothing wrong with helping or advising, but leading and doing is a bit much. Would your dad have filled out your job application, fielded your interviews and spoke with your potential employers on your behalf at 22? Would he have called you college professors and advisers and spoke to them on your behalf at 22 years old? Why not?

Again, helping is one thing, taking charge and leading this is another and from his statements it sure sounds as if this is the case.



Ohh dear, You might want to see if you can find someone to read you the definition of calm and explain the meaning. :oops:
 
I really enjoy how, since I am not online 24/7, I can come back to a thread the next day I am interested in hoping to learn more, and it has grown like 10 pages since I last was on, and about eight of 'em are just filled with some dickhead arguing with everyone, inflating the thread like a blimp. Smh. Can we please separate the arguments into another thread from the actual subject content?
 
So ingenious. You must be a far left liberal democrat that is crooked as hell. You can't engage in a discussion without changing someone else's post to fit your narrative. Nice touch from an idiot.
Lol, what? Those were literally your words verbatim! Do you seriosuly not even know what you are writing?

And no, Trump 2020 - MAGA all the way for me! Screw socialism!

What's with your constant use of the ad hominem attacks? Are you reall ythat insecure with your ability to articulate a coherent response without resulting to fallacies?

Who the hell are you? Who made you the authority on how a family conducts their business? Go back and read the bolded part of your post. Do you not see how ridiculous you're coming off?

Run your family the way you want, just know, every family is different and in case you haven't noticed, you are the only one arguing this ridiculous point.

You're that one ugly chick in the group of hotties that doesn't realize you're butt ugly.
What is ridiculous about it? Would you apply, interview and speak with potentail employers on behalf of your 22 YO child? Would your parents have done that for you?

Now they would likely offer advice on jobs and companies. Maybe let you know of places that were hiring and put in a good word if they can, and all that is great! They should do that, but there is a reason they don't apply, intrview and speak to employers on your behalf. You are a grown adult that should have the confidence and ability to handle that on your own. If not, there is a problem.

Do you honestly not get the difference?

What's with the ad hominem attacks? That insecure about your argument?

1 there usually aren’t grad transfers that bring as much to the table as Blackshear. He’s a difference maker
2. He does not appear to have a good idea yet as to where he will land
3 UK is involved, when Uk is involved it’s a story
4. People are reaching out and talking to his dad. He’s just answering their questions
5. The fact anyone has issues with a dad helping out his son at any age is what’s odd here. Not the Blackshears.

Also before you use Reid Travis as an example to support your dad shouldn’t help his son argument UK and Reid were pretty far down the road of done deal by the time his situation played out and UK was the clear front runner the entire time.
Just put me in the side as a dad where I don’t understand anyone taking issue with a dad helping his dad for any reason. To each their own I guess.
Their have been a lot of big ones in the past. I would say Reid was pretty major. They were actually very smiliar situations. Both big time conference players, both wanted to go pro and tried that option first. Reid was in the transfer portal for a while and then announced he was visiting here after that going pro was not a viable option at the time. I do not recall his dad or family doing interviews about what would be priority for them.

Sestina is the 3rd rated transfer this year and I don't recall his parents making statements like Kerry's dad.

I think he probably has a good list he is sticking to. He obviosuly wants to be a pro, so you don't just go anywhere if that is the goal.

UK has expressed potential interest. There are no actual reports they are involved yet.

His dad is giving interviews always mentioning himself first and what he wants first. That is a pretty strong indicator he feels in charge of this.

Big difference in helping and controlling or leading. A 22 year old should be getting help and advice, but they should be controlling it themselves.

A lamp post is giving him the benefit of the doubt. Not sure he is that intelligent.
More ad hominems I see. Wonder why?
Most of them manage it and then let the kid make the final decision. How is that different from pros letting managers and agent manage their destination then they make the final decision? And that’s grown men. Same with tv personalities who are 30-70 and coaches who let managers and agent manage their decision. This is beyond common for college athletes except the only difference is it’s not publicized
Who are these most in the grad transfer ranks? Can you provide some proof of this?

An agent is hired to negotiate deals and legalties of contracts with teams, endorsement deals, companies, business affairs and so forth. There is no deals to be made here or arrangements made. There aren't legalties to work out. This is a very straightforward process where you pick a list of schools that put you in the best chance to reach your dreams. Choose the one that you feel the most comfortable you can achieve that goal with. Your dad can't and shouldn't make that decision for you. They can absolutely help and provide support and feedback, but his father appears to be leading this and calling the shots. Just read his quotes. He always mentiones himself and what he wants first. Kerry seems to be second. That is a bit odd.

Would you apply, interview, speak with ponential employers for your 22 yo? Would your father have done it for you at 22? Seems odd this would be much different.
 
It feels like the board's gonna melt down if this kid doesnt come to UK...

Probably bc our fans are basketball smart and know we have no game changer on the roster right now. This guy is it the last shot for 2019-2020. We are missing out on all the elite freshman and need another Reid Travis impact type grad transfer
 
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Oh well, I guess the BS poster isn't going to stop. You might be interested to know that Jordan Brown's father Dion looks to be running the point on his transfer and is doing the interviews also. Maybe you can go to that thread and bitch about it there too.

http://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/major-schools-reaching-out-to-nevadas-jordan-brown

I just want to know about Blackshear. I don't care if his momma carries him onto campus at UK I just want him here.
 
Oh well, I guess the BS poster isn't going to stop. You might be interested to know that Jordan Brown's father Dion looks to be running the point on his transfer and is doing the interviews also. Maybe you can go to that thread and bitch about it there too.

http://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/major-schools-reaching-out-to-nevadas-jordan-brown

I just want to know about Blackshear. I don't care if his momma carries him onto campus at UK I just want him here.
I read that but his father doesn't appear to running point. Never once did his father mention himself first, what he would deem appropriate or impressive and what the factors would be. He just mentioned a lot of schools were in contact and how shocked they were by it. He said UK and AZ were the most in contact so far. Big difference between the statements by them. If Blackshear's dad said it like that I would see no issue. That looks like he is simply helping. And the best part is Jordan is only 19.
 
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Oh well, I guess the BS poster isn't going to stop. You might be interested to know that Jordan Brown's father Dion looks to be running the point on his transfer and is doing the interviews also. Maybe you can go to that thread and bitch about it there too.

http://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporters/major-schools-reaching-out-to-nevadas-jordan-brown

I just want to know about Blackshear. I don't care if his momma carries him onto campus at UK I just want him here.

Forget him he’s hijacked the thread. I think a better discussion is who does blackshear compare to? Not just last season but from seasons past at UK?
 
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Lol, what? Those were literally your words verbatim! Do you seriosuly not even know what you are writing?

And no, Trump 2020 - MAGA all the way for me! Screw socialism!

What's with your constant use of the ad hominem attacks? Are you reall ythat insecure with your ability to articulate a coherent response without resulting to fallacies?


What is ridiculous about it? Would you apply, interview and speak with potentail employers on behalf of your 22 YO child? Would your parents have done that for you?

Now they would likely offer advice on jobs and companies. Maybe let you know of places that were hiring and put in a good word if they can, and all that is great! They should do that, but there is a reason they don't apply, intrview and speak to employers on your behalf. You are a grown adult that should have the confidence and ability to handle that on your own. If not, there is a problem.

Do you honestly not get the difference?

What's with the ad hominem attacks? That insecure about your argument?


Their have been a lot of big ones in the past. I would say Reid was pretty major. They were actually very smiliar situations. Both big time conference players, both wanted to go pro and tried that option first. Reid was in the transfer portal for a while and then announced he was visiting here after that going pro was not a viable option at the time. I do not recall his dad or family doing interviews about what would be priority for them.

Sestina is the 3rd rated transfer this year and I don't recall his parents making statements like Kerry's dad.

I think he probably has a good list he is sticking to. He obviosuly wants to be a pro, so you don't just go anywhere if that is the goal.

UK has expressed potential interest. There are no actual reports they are involved yet.

His dad is giving interviews always mentioning himself first and what he wants first. That is a pretty strong indicator he feels in charge of this.

Big difference in helping and controlling or leading. A 22 year old should be getting help and advice, but they should be controlling it themselves.


More ad hominems I see. Wonder why?

Who are these most in the grad transfer ranks? Can you provide some proof of this?

An agent is hired to negotiate deals and legalties of contracts with teams, endorsement deals, companies, business affairs and so forth. There is no deals to be made here or arrangements made. There aren't legalties to work out. This is a very straightforward process where you pick a list of schools that put you in the best chance to reach your dreams. Choose the one that you feel the most comfortable you can achieve that goal with. Your dad can't and shouldn't make that decision for you. They can absolutely help and provide support and feedback, but his father appears to be leading this and calling the shots. Just read his quotes. He always mentiones himself and what he wants first. Kerry seems to be second. That is a bit odd.

Would you apply, interview, speak with ponential employers for your 22 yo? Would your father have done it for you at 22? Seems odd this would be much different.
FFS. Ignore.
 
Lol, what? Those were literally your words verbatim! Do you seriosuly not even know what you are writing?

And no, Trump 2020 - MAGA all the way for me! Screw socialism!

What's with your constant use of the ad hominem attacks? Are you reall ythat insecure with your ability to articulate a coherent response without resulting to fallacies?


What is ridiculous about it? Would you apply, interview and speak with potentail employers on behalf of your 22 YO child? Would your parents have done that for you?

Now they would likely offer advice on jobs and companies. Maybe let you know of places that were hiring and put in a good word if they can, and all that is great! They should do that, but there is a reason they don't apply, intrview and speak to employers on your behalf. You are a grown adult that should have the confidence and ability to handle that on your own. If not, there is a problem.

Do you honestly not get the difference?

What's with the ad hominem attacks? That insecure about your argument?


Their have been a lot of big ones in the past. I would say Reid was pretty major. They were actually very smiliar situations. Both big time conference players, both wanted to go pro and tried that option first. Reid was in the transfer portal for a while and then announced he was visiting here after that going pro was not a viable option at the time. I do not recall his dad or family doing interviews about what would be priority for them.

Sestina is the 3rd rated transfer this year and I don't recall his parents making statements like Kerry's dad.

I think he probably has a good list he is sticking to. He obviosuly wants to be a pro, so you don't just go anywhere if that is the goal.

UK has expressed potential interest. There are no actual reports they are involved yet.

His dad is giving interviews always mentioning himself first and what he wants first. That is a pretty strong indicator he feels in charge of this.

Big difference in helping and controlling or leading. A 22 year old should be getting help and advice, but they should be controlling it themselves.


More ad hominems I see. Wonder why?

Who are these most in the grad transfer ranks? Can you provide some proof of this?

An agent is hired to negotiate deals and legalties of contracts with teams, endorsement deals, companies, business affairs and so forth. There is no deals to be made here or arrangements made. There aren't legalties to work out. This is a very straightforward process where you pick a list of schools that put you in the best chance to reach your dreams. Choose the one that you feel the most comfortable you can achieve that goal with. Your dad can't and shouldn't make that decision for you. They can absolutely help and provide support and feedback, but his father appears to be leading this and calling the shots. Just read his quotes. He always mentiones himself and what he wants first. Kerry seems to be second. That is a bit odd.

Would you apply, interview, speak with ponential employers for your 22 yo? Would your father have done it for you at 22? Seems odd this would be much different.
Rustled in a BIG Way
 
Lol, what? Those were literally your words verbatim! Do you seriosuly not even know what you are writing?

And no, Trump 2020 - MAGA all the way for me! Screw socialism!

What's with your constant use of the ad hominem attacks? Are you reall ythat insecure with your ability to articulate a coherent response without resulting to fallacies?


What is ridiculous about it? Would you apply, interview and speak with potentail employers on behalf of your 22 YO child? Would your parents have done that for you?

Now they would likely offer advice on jobs and companies. Maybe let you know of places that were hiring and put in a good word if they can, and all that is great! They should do that, but there is a reason they don't apply, intrview and speak to employers on your behalf. You are a grown adult that should have the confidence and ability to handle that on your own. If not, there is a problem.

Do you honestly not get the difference?

What's with the ad hominem attacks? That insecure about your argument?


Their have been a lot of big ones in the past. I would say Reid was pretty major. They were actually very smiliar situations. Both big time conference players, both wanted to go pro and tried that option first. Reid was in the transfer portal for a while and then announced he was visiting here after that going pro was not a viable option at the time. I do not recall his dad or family doing interviews about what would be priority for them.

Sestina is the 3rd rated transfer this year and I don't recall his parents making statements like Kerry's dad.

I think he probably has a good list he is sticking to. He obviosuly wants to be a pro, so you don't just go anywhere if that is the goal.

UK has expressed potential interest. There are no actual reports they are involved yet.

His dad is giving interviews always mentioning himself first and what he wants first. That is a pretty strong indicator he feels in charge of this.

Big difference in helping and controlling or leading. A 22 year old should be getting help and advice, but they should be controlling it themselves.


More ad hominems I see. Wonder why?

Who are these most in the grad transfer ranks? Can you provide some proof of this?

An agent is hired to negotiate deals and legalties of contracts with teams, endorsement deals, companies, business affairs and so forth. There is no deals to be made here or arrangements made. There aren't legalties to work out. This is a very straightforward process where you pick a list of schools that put you in the best chance to reach your dreams. Choose the one that you feel the most comfortable you can achieve that goal with. Your dad can't and shouldn't make that decision for you. They can absolutely help and provide support and feedback, but his father appears to be leading this and calling the shots. Just read his quotes. He always mentiones himself and what he wants first. Kerry seems to be second. That is a bit odd.

Would you apply, interview, speak with ponential employers for your 22 yo? Would your father have done it for you at 22? Seems odd this would be much different.
You have given me pause about voting for Trump now.
 
I read that but his father doesn't appear to running point. Never once did his father mention himself first, what he would deem appropriate or impressive and what the factors would be. He just mentioned a lot of schools were in contact and how shocked they were by it. He said UK and AZ were the most in contact so far. Big difference between the statements by them. If Blackshear's dad said it like that I would see no issue. That looks like he is simply helping. And the best part is Jordan is only 19.




You've wasted most of your day proving that you can get the last word without convincing a soul that your position is even remotely sensible.

Congrats.
 
It's clear you haven't managed to convince anyone that your position is reasonable.


You've wasted most of your day proving that you can get the last word without convincing a soul that your position is even remotely sensible.

Congrats.
Sure, I did. If you looks back, there was someone who said the hated to admit they agreed with me. So there is at least 1, so not at total waste of a day.

Rustled in a BIG Way
Sure, if you says so....


You have given me pause about voting for Trump now.
If I have control over what you do in your life, you might be taking this whole message board thing a bit too seriously.
 
I actually hope Blackshear comes here and that his dad speaks for him the entire season, in every interview so that we never hear the kid's real voice.

Maybe his dad can even hold the scissors for him when we cut down the nets for #9.
Seems like he just might be that type. You must not want a lot of joy for Kerry either. Hope he doesn't see this.

Sounds like a UF lean currently though.
 
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