LMAO, Cal most certainly wasn't prepared. He has been in full on panic mode since draft day.
Don't want the stars, those are only good for future NBA success in most cases.
Not making any excuses for Cal...Simply pointing out reasonable reasons as to why you could be wrong.
So you don't want the Anthony Davis or John Walls? You don't want the Justin Edwards or DJ Wagners? Thats BS and you know it. You would gripe if he didn't get those players.
Are you seriously this naive? Dear lord.
Yes there was. Hell you quoted two of the posters who was "defending" him as you call it. Not defending just not seeing facts to support people's bashing g of Cal or some things. You know, like your non informed bashing of him about recruiting Z. You know nothing about how long he recruited hum or when he became available to come to the states to play. Bit you and your type never try and see things for what they are, hell something bad happened, let's blame Cal. It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't spend the other half of your time arguing with posters for calling your ass out for the bashing without facts and just plain ole ill-informed post. 50% of your post of those, 40% are your arguing with people that you didn't say something or they are picking on you. The other 10% are actually decent posters. Hoe about you working on that 10% zone and less of the others.
Uhhhhh, what? You need to check your facts here. You’re dead wrong.
Uhh, you're not listening to what I'm saying.
False.
BS...Duke, Kansas, UNC, etc always have top ranked classes every year. They don't keep all those players 3 to for years. They recruit the exact same players that Cal recruits. You need to check your facts. With the exception of last year with San Diego St and UCONN in the finals and Baylor, look at the list of champions. UK fights with all of them for the same players. Even the runners up are recruiting the same players as UK. Those are the facts.
Unc rarely has top ranked classes and actually, KU/Self stopped playing in the recruiting class wars long ago.
Those teams are recruiting the same players that Cal is. UVA is as well now. We have beaten them for a handful of recruits in recent years. His point was about the Baylors, UCONNS, etc. They both won a title recently but in the years prior to the titles and after the titles, they have fallen back into obscurity. They just happened to have teams gel in one year. They aren't in the discussion every year like we are. The 9 - 16 year was disappointing and didn't play out like we wanted but going into that year we were among the list of those expected to compete for the title. The cancelled tournament year, we were one of the betting favorites heading into the tourney. The St. Pete year we were a 2 seed. The loss sucked but every team has one of those eventually. That happened to be our. In fact, Duke and Kansas have had many of those kinds of losses. This past year, we just got beat by a good Kansas State team while dealing with some injuries and off the court issues.
To say Self stopping playing the recruiting wars is funny. He is as still in it as much as ever. Kind of hard to get top ranked classed like Self is when you are out of the recruiting wars. I could agree with you but then we would both be wrong. UNC is still recruiting the same players we do. Just because they don't have the same type of freshman campaign as UK players and turn pro doesn't mean they aren't the same players we are recruiting. We have gone head to head with UNC for many recruits the past few years.
This will be my last comment on this, because it's going in circles in a thread that has nothing to do with this conversation:
ccc has seemingly always come late to the recruiting party
LOL, uNC has 1 incoming recruit in the top 75 of this years class, KU ALSO only has 1.
Nothing but the usual suspects entertaining themselves by yelling past each other
ccc is a cancer to the UK program, but those of you that are so enamored with him always over look his lousy record over the 5 years or so. Since you are such a devout UK fan, I am sure that you loved the worst season in school history, the abuse the UK program took over the Sharpe ordeal and the worst ncaa loss in school history and you must absolutely love that UK is no longer the all time wins leader..........all of these book marks courtesy of hour hero ccc. Then again, you must also love the disdain that he shows to the fans, the total disregard for the program & his superiors. You probably watch the NBA draft just to catch a glimpse of ccc, since that is the only thing that matters to him.
ccc tossed out that story about having back up plans earlier this summer when there were only 7 kids on the roster.....just another in a long line of lies from him. His back up plan was Burks and Hart. Those kids aren't ready to contribute, just like Ugo isn't ready. ccc can't even get a game plan ready. Huggy threw a zone against Wall & Cuz & ccc to this day still hasn't figured out how to attack it. I guess his pay back to Huggy was for him to get a dui & ruin his career allowing Mitchell to fall into UK's lap.
most everyone knows that you need to treat people decently, except ccc
my previous reply to you still stands...You are a cancer to the UK program but those enamored by you over look your lousy post record over the 5 years or so.
I thought you were done commenting. You probably should've been as you continue to be wrong. This is the first year in awhile that you might argue that Cal is building out a roster of one and dones but even that is debatable. He has 2 OAD maybe 3 (Wagner, Edwards, and possibly Bradshaw or Z if he comes). That is hardly building out a roster with OAD. It isn't even close to the days like 2012 or 2015. Those years were built out on OAD and those were the years we were getting the results you argue we don't get with OAD. You simply keep being more wrong with each post.
You're denying the likelihood because you are a Cal supporter. You're assuming he did recruit him early to fit YOUR narrative.
You haven’t read this thread or you are just not telling the truth. Two or three folks blamed Cal for this. On other treads folks have blamed Cal. Maybe he is to blame some but to say no one has blamed Cal is just not true.
I am Cal supporter in only that he's the coach here. He can stay or go and I wouldn't lose sleep. I never said he recruited early. In fact, in one of my posts, I said more likely than not he recruited late but wasn't sure if that was because of his decisions or Zs. I didn't assume anything. I pointed out the 3 scenarios that have the same likelihood of happening. The only one making assumptions here is you with your assumptions that I think Cal recruited Z early even though I clearly stated in a post that I didn't think that at all.
In fact here is my post where I stated that I thought the recruitment was late.
Kansas just got Flory Bidunga. This dude is allergic to making sense.
So landing one guy, is equivalent to landing a full team of high school kids?
So when other Universities don't build their rosters off OAD, its because they choose to do so. When Cal doesn't, its because he misses his primary targets despite the fact that in most cases, we are all recruiting the same players. Nice double standard there.
No one is landing a team full of HS kids anymore, not even Cal. You really can't be this dense?
Cal was missing on most of his primary targets, so he had to resort to his next best options.
That’s correct. Just go to recruiting rankings and see what schools offer each kid. Do your own work, I already did.
LOL, look at our current roster.
