This. No one really cares anymore. And that's in all industries. Loyalty means precisely Richard anymore. Which I hate, but also understand. I will be loyal to those who care about me, but outside of that? Pfft.
UK just not appealing anymore?
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Is USC west still viewed as a blueblood in football? We must start winning to remain in consideration as a blue blood. Same goes for Duke, UNC, KU. If they don't win for 12 years they will also lose a ton of shine. The kids today in college don't remember us being a big time winner they were 7 or 8 years old in 2012. Cal turned us into a college G-Leauge. It will take a few final fours to get back to where we want to be.
Three years ago, I cared about money, but not at the forefront. Now? With the way things are? I don't blame people that put money first. Sad state of our world. When food prices keep jumping, money HAS to come first.
100%. I remember when we came off probation in the 90's. A kid named Mashburn chose U.K. and guy named Pitino started coaching. That started the roll.
I think we will see something similar from Pope's teams. I really hope we get Riley this year. He might be the first guy to start the mix of the right 5* players to blend with older guys.
1. Kentucky is a known commodity with shine.
2. Pope is an unknown commodity at Kentucky.
3. One successful season and recruiting will pick up.
4. Op obvious troll obvious.
2. Pope is an unknown commodity at Kentucky.
3. One successful season and recruiting will pick up.
4. Op obvious troll obvious.
If there was ever a time to be disassociated with Cal's "good friend" Aubrey "Drake" Graham, it's now. Maybe Pope can ask Hart to work his South Central connections to book Kendrick Lamar at BBM this year.
CCC has irrevocably tarnished the reputation of U.K. basketball, in the short term. Fortunately, the world will recognize, soon enough, that any negativity associated with Kentucky basketball had its genesis in CCC's myriad failures and inadequacies ! ! !
Paraphrasing the late, great Al McGuire -- Kentucky basketball has "IT" ! And U.K. basketball had "it" before CCC, and U.K. continued to have "it" even through the abyss that was CCC's 15-year tenure, and U.K. still has "it" now that CCC has mercifully shuffled off to Fayetteville, and U.K. will still have "it" as long as Mark Pope is the head coach, and U.K. will still have "it" when Mark Pope is gone.
Just MHO, of course. Go 'Cats ! ! !
Oh trust something tells me there would be a different mindset by some if they were in the position of a player with talent .
With being around several highschool athletes who all had D-1 scholarships this year, I can confidently say that almost every kid will make a decision that benefits themselves over everything else, including the school. Honestly, I cant blame these kids wanting to go somewhere that would help them the most over being a fan of a university. These kids have to be selfish, and it's understandable. They want to go somewhere that has their best interest at heart and trusts the staff.
Is Pope hurting his recruiting chances by constantly saying that he wants kids that puts the name on the front of the jersey over the name on the back? Some of these recruits may be getting the wrong impression. Its not necessarily selfish for a kid to have this mindset about their future, after all, picking a college is a huge decision. If coaches do right by these kids, they will play their heart out for the school. This is a two-way ticket that needs to be balanced and incorporated in our recruitment strategies.
Is Pope hurting his recruiting chances by constantly saying that he wants kids that puts the name on the front of the jersey over the name on the back? Some of these recruits may be getting the wrong impression. Its not necessarily selfish for a kid to have this mindset about their future, after all, picking a college is a huge decision. If coaches do right by these kids, they will play their heart out for the school. This is a two-way ticket that needs to be balanced and incorporated in our recruitment strategies.
Agree we need a purge like the Pitino years. I am just going by what several 25 recruits have been saying about us. Things like 'Kentucky is Kentucky.' 'It's still Kentucky and always will be.' 'I had a Kentucky sticker on my bed when I was a kid.' And on and on. The winning part not what it needs to be for who we are. But young kids still consider us in high regards.
Money matters to a certain point, but once you are safe and secure, well fed, etc. you tend to crave different things. Psychology 101.
Part of that could be money as a reward/validation for accomplishment. Some is just a sense of belonging. All those former Cats piling off the bus at Pope’s press conference - that was about belonging, and it runs deep.
As usual, Aike ... you've made an excellent and very important post ! I've taken the liberty of using bold type to emphasize the part of your post that really rang my bell ! Thanks for making that point !
Go 'Cats ! ! !
THIS THREAD DID NOT AGE WELL.
THAT IS ALL
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Coach Pope is doing a very fine job with the biggest "Bluebood" program. With what he was left. Get onboard! He is not stubborn and will adapt to the evolving game. I actually think his offense schemes are gonna resemble Billy D'S and defense gonna resemble Rick PitinO's.
Nonsense. UK is and always will be the ultimate program.
Don't know how old you are, but my brain didn't work as good (or not so good) ☺️ when I was that young.
It was much better manipulated and persuaded back then.
If you take off the blue tinted glasses, there are a few programs up here with UK but put the glasses back on because we're fans of the mother truckin best program in history of the sport !!!! CATS ALL DAY ALL LIFE BABY!!!! C.....A......T.....S... CATS CATS CATS!!!!
And just like that, the OP redefined the definition of an Epic Fail 😭😂🤣
If this were the case, (it is not),
Why do our games still draw the highest tv audiences?
Clown much?
Why do our games still draw the highest tv audiences?
Clown much?
Two different things
UK will always have a large fan base and insane TV numbers. That won’t change.
But that’s different from saying that players do (or don’t) want to come here.
I think this is true of all schools tho to be honest. It’s not a UK thing or a Duke thing or a Kansas thing.
People follow coaches. Specific players want to play with specific coaches. It was more about that than school. Cal goes to Arkansas and players he recruited followed suit. They aren’t going to Arkansas because they love the school anymore than they came to UK because they love UK. Now it’s about NIL for I would assume quite a bit of players.
But you know how to be the “it” school again. Win ballgames. Once Pope shows he can do that on the big stage it might be a more attractive option
Lmao.. I’ll eat crow, no problem 👍 but don’t act like people weren’t shatting their pants before he announced 🤨
Wait.. why am I a troll? Because I had a question of how recruits might view the program these days? Far from a troll lol. Nice conspiracy theory👍 you sound batsh*t crazy lol
I think it appeals (the original premise) to players to play the big games on TV in front of the national audience.
Players follow coaches because there is generally a relationship that has been established that provides a comfort level for them.
Oh yeah, and the 💰.
GBB
Not just win ball games. Win ball games that matter. And don’t lose to the Evansvilles of the world.
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