What's worse is the staff didn't cheat, the were unaware of the work not being done.
UK Football on Probation/Vacates Wins From 2021 Employment Issues
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What burns me up is we have recruits demanding $5000 payments to show up on an official visit and high school QBs getting 7 figure signing bonuses, and they find some guys that got paid for not working and want to nail the school for it. While all of that may be within the rules, it just seems to me the football world is in tilt sometimes.
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I can just imagine some SEC schools are just laughing at UK and shaking their heads.
Kids having bidding wars between schools is fine and dandy, but having cookouts and getting paid slightly more than should is no bueno.
Seems bizarre this is a thing still at this point. I guess technically this occurred right before NIL floodgates opened? Still seems harsh.
The NCAA in its dying breath screws UK yet again. But it wasn't just them. It was mostly our resident jellyfish, Eli and Mitch.
I'm sure if we listened closely we could hear the chanting "Thank you mistress, may I have another?" Lord knows they were probably holding hands to comfort each other.
I'm sure if we listened closely we could hear the chanting "Thank you mistress, may I have another?" Lord knows they were probably holding hands to comfort each other.
Meanwhile, Alabama gets away with murder and the NCAA doesn’t touch them.
The guys on here who root for them despite this is crazy.
The guys on here who root for them despite this is crazy.
It's crazy what the NCAA has pretended and acted to care about for it's entire existance.
They could of really nailed the big fish but they care about the small fry
They could of really nailed the big fish but they care about the small fry
Should have sued and called it retroactive NIL. NCAA won’t even be around in 10 years, why lay down and be a bitch?
Why not just prosecute the young adults who took money under false pretenses and let UK go. I guess that just makes too much sense .
Yes. And it’s not like they’ve been 4th Qtr 2nd string letdowns either. It’s frustrating.
Let’s not give the Avila credit for getting away with bad behavior. Screw them.
I don’t believe so but their issue wasn’t tied to any personnel that was a part of games. When Mumme took the world by storm with his new style of play it was with curry leftovers and then his recruits tended to be under recruited and not terribly athletic initially. It was at the end of his tenure when they started getting a few commitments from that next level guy. Blizzard etc. But that infamous $1400 wasn’t connected to anyone that played in games that had been declared ineligible.
Things went south on its own due to him going with a turnover prone freshman in Lorenzen and then the investigation of the violation made the situation totally fall apart.
For all the disparaging of Mumme that we’ve done, especially the statue for stoops guys these days, he finished with at least a .500 conference record in 2 of 4 seasons. He only played a schedule with 1 non P5 non-con game. Losing these games puts stoops at 3 of 11 seasons .500 or better in sec…. 2016-2018.
I hear ya....but there were a lot of people at UK health that knew. People were pissed about it then.
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Stoops really earning his $9mil/year here
It’s their job to know these things. Can’t plead ignorance on this one! Sounds like it was well known by a lot of people, coaches just looked the other way.
So essentially this is worse than what the mumme staff did. Did anyone get the real number of wins vacated? Was it 1 season? I'm hearing it may be 2 or 3 seasons.
IIRC, the violations occurred after NIL became effective: Levis and Wandale had good NIL deals for 2021, all arraigned well prior to the 2021 season.
Had the fake jobs just put a photo of the athletes up, and used that as advertising, they could have paid them tons for the NIL.
There’s a certain irony in this thread: some are bemoaning the “loss” of victories they previously have complained were insignificant, to begin with!!
This 100 percent. Wins and losses are gonna happen but the ride will be enjoyable if we are fighting in every game.
My concern is how someone is going to view this 100 years and think about those ten actual wins that are showing up in the loss column. It’s like our vacated wins in 1792 that still bother me.
The fact our administration doesn’t support our team in a situation like this is appalling. This is SEC football. This is your 2 time Citrus Bowl Champ coach. Stand up and fight. Especially with a situation as stupid as this. It’s a no brainer.
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This is exactly the key issue. W/l columns from years ago really don't matter much. However its pathetic to just roll over on such a weak situation rather than backing your coach and program.
Seeing and hearing stoops personality over the years, hes clearly a fighter. No way he was ok with this and very well is probably the source of his recent frustrations from almost leaving to recent comments.
Nah, a lot of us can deal with insane bullshit like this regarding UK football as we have for years…right when you think you’ve seen it all…
NIL started July 1, 2021, I believe, actual Supreme Court decision came shortly before that. Someone in UKAD wasn't creative enough in dealing with this. Milquetoast Mitch got bent over and used because he felt guilty it happened. I get that the punishment could've been worse, but this sh!t really hacks me off. Other schools do much worse with zero or little consequences. We vacate wins. Seriously, eff all this crap. Power conferences should disband the NCAA, wipe the slate clean w/r/t to things like this, reinstate wins, and create a new governing body that's not a useless relic of a bygone era.
Edited to add: maybe a wrinkle about this not falling under NIL is that it was done via UK Healthcare (part of the university), and they were on actual payroll. Stupid all around. Still pissed off about this, though.
Getting paid but not working is like 80% of America.
Could someone please explain the actual two years of probation? Does it include bowls? Scholarships? Probation with what?..
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
It's like being on probation from being in court. Slap on the wrist and a warning not to do it again, or else.
I've soured on Stoops. Vanderbilt loss, then almost bailing to the aggies in the middle of the night, crying about NIL. And after seeing what Lance Leopold is doing at Kansas and Drinkwitz at Missouri. Missouri has already passed us as a program. And Drinkwitz has been there how many years? I'm ready to see what we could do under a new coach.
Right hire 12 years ago, today? Not so much.
Dudes are pulling up to their college signing driving Ferraris they got with NIL money before they even get to campus and we vacate games for a few thousand bucks, lol
Wonder what they paid the 5 star QB that they got today? Another $8 Million?
They are paying big, paying more than anyone including osu right now. They are getting a big OL in a couple weeks unless Nebraska pony's up big for him, he is demanding QB money.
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