UK Football on Probation/Vacates Wins From 2021 Employment Issues

[Deeeefense]

No other SEC school would have accepted this level of punishment. I don't want UK to cheat, but this level of punishment is ridiculous. Cam Newton's dad got paid around 100k and Auburn didn't have to vacate any wins. The NCAA used a ridiculous excuse that Cam didn't know about the money.

What's worse is the staff didn't cheat, the were unaware of the work not being done.

 

[Deeeefense]

What burns me up is we have recruits demanding $5000 payments to show up on an official visit and high school QBs getting 7 figure signing bonuses, and they find some guys that got paid for not working and want to nail the school for it. While all of that may be within the rules, it just seems to me the football world is in tilt sometimes.

 

[maysvilleky]

Because we're easy picking. Noone else would've ever self reported this and definitely wouldn't accept such a punishment. He should've dared them to do something and made their life hell. They're on life support as is.

No way you just agree. Its unbelievable.



Exactly.

I can just imagine some SEC schools are just laughing at UK and shaking their heads.

 

[meteordealer]

I thought it was OK to pay players now? I'm confused.

 

[UK Widget]

Kids having bidding wars between schools is fine and dandy, but having cookouts and getting paid slightly more than should is no bueno.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

Seems bizarre this is a thing still at this point. I guess technically this occurred right before NIL floodgates opened? Still seems harsh.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

The NCAA in its dying breath screws UK yet again. But it wasn't just them. It was mostly our resident jellyfish, Eli and Mitch.

I'm sure if we listened closely we could hear the chanting "Thank you mistress, may I have another?" Lord knows they were probably holding hands to comfort each other.

 

[HeismaNole]

Meanwhile, Alabama gets away with murder and the NCAA doesn’t touch them.

The guys on here who root for them despite this is crazy.

 

[DraftCat]

It's crazy what the NCAA has pretended and acted to care about for it's entire existance.

They could of really nailed the big fish but they care about the small fry

 

[StubbornPenny]

Should have sued and called it retroactive NIL. NCAA won’t even be around in 10 years, why lay down and be a bitch?

 

[Catfanlou]

Why not just prosecute the young adults who took money under false pretenses and let UK go. I guess that just makes too much sense .

 

[bbncal02]

How we look is always a factor. We have a feeling around the program that we play to our competition. We need to absolutely curb stomp the OOC teams for Stoops to get that monkey off his back. We really have never proved that in 12 years now.

Yes. And it’s not like they’ve been 4th Qtr 2nd string letdowns either. It’s frustrating.

 

[bbncal02]

Tenneesee sued the NCAA. And won. Mitch says ''please, take my wallet and any other valuables, and leave me be''.

Let’s not give the Avila credit for getting away with bad behavior. Screw them.

 

[3632]

Did the Hal mumme teams have to vacate wins?

I don’t believe so but their issue wasn’t tied to any personnel that was a part of games. When Mumme took the world by storm with his new style of play it was with curry leftovers and then his recruits tended to be under recruited and not terribly athletic initially. It was at the end of his tenure when they started getting a few commitments from that next level guy. Blizzard etc. But that infamous $1400 wasn’t connected to anyone that played in games that had been declared ineligible.

Things went south on its own due to him going with a turnover prone freshman in Lorenzen and then the investigation of the violation made the situation totally fall apart.

For all the disparaging of Mumme that we’ve done, especially the statue for stoops guys these days, he finished with at least a .500 conference record in 2 of 4 seasons. He only played a schedule with 1 non P5 non-con game. Losing these games puts stoops at 3 of 11 seasons .500 or better in sec…. 2016-2018.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

What's worse is the staff didn't cheat, the were unaware of the work not being done.

I hear ya....but there were a lot of people at UK health that knew. People were pissed about it then.

 

[Snarks0]

Stoops really earning his $9mil/year here

 

[Snarks0]

So, did our coaches know that this was happening or is this news to them as well?

It’s their job to know these things. Can’t plead ignorance on this one! Sounds like it was well known by a lot of people, coaches just looked the other way.

 

[R.O.T.Muckinfush]

I don’t believe so but their issue wasn’t tied to any personnel that was a part of games. When Mumme took the world by storm with his new style of play it was with curry leftovers and then his recruits tended to be under recruited and not terribly athletic initially. It was at the end of his tenure when they started getting a few commitments from that next level guy. Blizzard etc. But that infamous $1400 wasn’t connected to anyone that played in games that had been declared ineligible.

Things went south on its own due to him going with a turnover prone freshman in Lorenzen and then the investigation of the violation made the situation totally fall apart.

For all the disparaging of Mumme that we’ve done, especially the statue for stoops guys these days, he finished with at least a .500 conference record in 2 of 4 seasons. He only played a schedule with 1 non P5 non-con game. Losing these games puts stoops at 3 of 11 seasons .500 or better in sec…. 2016-2018.

So essentially this is worse than what the mumme staff did. Did anyone get the real number of wins vacated? Was it 1 season? I'm hearing it may be 2 or 3 seasons.

 

[The-Hack]

Seems bizarre this is a thing still at this point. I guess technically this occurred right before NIL floodgates opened? Still seems harsh.

IIRC, the violations occurred after NIL became effective: Levis and Wandale had good NIL deals for 2021, all arraigned well prior to the 2021 season.

Had the fake jobs just put a photo of the athletes up, and used that as advertising, they could have paid them tons for the NIL.

 

[The-Hack]

There’s a certain irony in this thread: some are bemoaning the “loss” of victories they previously have complained were insignificant, to begin with!!

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I can just imagine some SEC schools are just laughing at UK and shaking their heads.

No doubt

The NCAA in its dying breath screws UK yet again. But it wasn't just them. It was mostly our resident jellyfish, Eli and Mitch.

I'm sure if we listened closely we could hear the chanting "Thank you mistress, may I have another?" Lord knows they were probably holding hands to comfort each other.

 

[Fadhi]

I think this is a proving year for Stoops. Yes the schedule is harder….way harder. So the W-L ratio is gonna be not as big of a factor, but the real measurement is gonna be are we competitive. Do we look like we know what we are doing? Do we beat who we should beat soundly and do we at least show up against UGA and Texas ? Do we play UT competitively?

Those are going to be the factors for me.

This 100 percent. Wins and losses are gonna happen but the ride will be enjoyable if we are fighting in every game.

 

[bluecoon1]

My concern is how someone is going to view this 100 years and think about those ten actual wins that are showing up in the loss column. It’s like our vacated wins in 1792 that still bother me.

 

[gobigbluebell]

The fact our administration doesn’t support our team in a situation like this is appalling. This of SEC football. This is your 2 time Citrus Bowl Champ coach. Stand up and fight. Especially with a situation as stupid as this. It’s a no brainer.

 

[optimus-blue]

I hear ya....but there were a lot of people at UK health that knew. People were pissed about it then.

UK healthcare has never ripped anyone off😂