Ugghh....Cal getting hammered on Twitter!

[AzubuikeandFitch]

The team is not playing for Gold. Only to get drafted on draft night lol.
Cal is the best recruiter but his in game coaching adjustments are not great. The creativity and innovation he displays marketing a university and players, he lacks with x's and o's.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

You're usually the first one to resort to personal insults, so talking about others doing it is hypocritical.
But you do you.

You've done it too..... so wouldnt this be you being hypocritical ?

 

[Chuckinden]

I would venture to say that Cal has hurt his chances of ever being the Olympic coach.

 

[Cawood86]

I would venture to say that Cal has hurt his chances of ever being the Olympic coach.

Likely. Just not a good look for him or Team USA.

 

[2blue4u]

The team is not playing for Gold. Only to get drafted on draft night lol.
Cal is the best recruiter but his in game coaching adjustments are not great. The creativity and innovation he displays marketing a university and players, he lacks with x's and o's.

And it is what it is....but most Wildcat fans have yet to come to terms with it.

Still some of the best years in our school's history. And no other coach could surpass the success we have had during Cal"s tenure. But, that's mainly due to his other worldly ability to recruit/acquire talent than anything else. Because there are numbers of coaches, given the talent Cal has had, that could not only duplicate but surpass Cal's level of success here. But alas, they just can't do what Cal can or has done here in terms of acquiring talent. No one has, except maybe UCLA in the 60's.

 

[kmann0433]

Believe what you want, but I would bet money Bill Self, K, Roy, Shaka... they were high diving their staffs when the USA lost this game. It'll DEFINITELY be brought up in recruiting. You're naive if you think it won't.

 

[BostonCat2001]

Believe what you want, but I would bet money Bill Self, K, Roy, Shaka... they were high diving their staffs when the USA lost this game. It'll DEFINITELY be brought up in recruiting. You're naive if you think it won't.

and you are naive to think it will matter.

 

[mdlUK.1]

I'd like debating this further but there is no way to defend my stance without people taking it and blowing it out of proportion . I say Cal deserves Criticism and people in their minds take it to mean I'm trashing Cal as bad coach. I say it will hurt recruiting and people take it to mean that we'll have a bad recruiting year. But I do respect you debating it rather than going straight to name calling and insults.

It's just that you always seem to be on the negative side of these debates.

 

[kyjeff1]

You've done it too..... so wouldnt this be you being hypocritical ?

Oh I'm sure you might be able to dig and find a post or two where I either responded to an insult or where I hurled one at a troll, but it definitely isn't a trait of mone.
But you? More often than not you're in an insult hurling contest with someone.
#commondenominator

 

[Cawood86]

Believe what you want, but I would bet money Bill Self, K, Roy, Shaka... they were high diving their staffs when the USA lost this game. It'll DEFINITELY be brought up in recruiting. You're naive if you think it won't.

Exactly how will this hurt recruiting? This will maybe hurt Cal with USA basketball, but this will not hurt recruiting. I just don't see that at all.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

I bet you think the new Star Wars movies are good too.

Hey now, you're crossing the line there. No need to bring Star Wars into this. That's just wrong!

 

[Blue Decade]

Of course other coaches will use this against Calipari. That's a Captain Obvious type of conclusion. But, is this the 1st time a coach has ever used something against another coach on the recruiting trail? No, it isn't. That happens all the time. College recruiting is not a gentleman's game. But some of these players will value their relationships with Calipari over this loss of 1 game that they, just maybe, might put into a more realistic perspective than some posters do. For instance, Reddish is being blasted by some posters, but maybe he is right to put it behind him and move forward. That's what successful people do. So it works both ways. The thing that makes threads like this 1 so strange is the reality check aspect. Every year, Calipari signs the #1 or #2 class in the entire country. This year, UK is apparently on the lists of every player we could possibly want. We are about to get a commitment from Quickley, and we are apparently in great shape with Zion Williamson. An international game won't change that. If someone believes that this 1 particular game will reorder the hierarchy of the recruiting world, I don't agree but they are entitled to their opinion. These threads need to stay on the subject of basketball, rather than degenerating into name calling and condescending discussions of each other. Most posters are not interested in the latter, and it hurts the threads.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Then I said it would hurt recruiting and people WAY over reacted

So much correlation in this single sentence. Amazing.

I bolded it for the confused.

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

Most basketball fans don't even know where to watch the FIBA games. I think we're (UK) is going to be okay from this loss. Just a guess.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

I said he deserved it over this one game....... the haters try to say it for his whole career so huge difference there.

and why wouldnt he deserve criticism for this game? If we all praise him for winning tough games...... then why cant he be subjected to criticism for losing a game by 12 to a team who was 1 future NBA player and a bunch of mid major talent ?

And what do you mean the way I defended it? I not only said thank god cal is our coach...... but also made it clear i thought he deserved it for this 1 game only........ Whats my agenda other than saying today was a bad game?

Tried to stay out of this but I just couldn't any longer. I've been in a few arguments with Wildcat and a couple have gotten really out of hand, with me being just as much if not more at fault. But he's got a point about the game. I think Cal could've made a few adjustments to help the team. I don't know if I'd blame him for the loss or not but even if I did, doesn't change the way I feel about him. I still wouldn't trade him for anyone and I'm a huge fan. It's ok to constructively criticize him. It doesn't revoke your BBN card. There is a huge difference in bashing and constructive criticism. I don't have a problem with what Wildcat said about the game. He stated the reasons he felt that this game was on Cal and made some legit points. Doesn't mean I agree with everything but I can respect that opinion. That's all.

 

[UKCATSFREAK]

OP isn't mature enough to understand how jealousy works. When you're on top, everybody's waiting for you to stumble. Then they pounce. Look at who's pouncing. Goodman, Givony, some UK fans, rival fans. Nobody with one iota of common basketball sense cares. But the OP and others alike, lets it bother them. Weak minded individuals.

This sounds like a personal isssue with the OP. Looks to me like he was just saying that people were out there bashing Cal, not that he was agreeing with them. I could be wrong though but this just looks like a pounce.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Oh I'm sure you might be able to dig and find a post or two where I either responded to an insult or where I hurled one at a troll, but it definitely isn't a trait of mone.
But you? More often than not you're in an insult hurling contest with someone.
#commondenominator

thats far different than starting the insult throwing. and honestly..... I keep the insult throwing going because I laugh and find it funny. seeing what people come up with or what I can... its amusing to me sometimes. But I dont "often" start the crap like you are claiming.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Tried to stay out of this but I just couldn't any longer. I've been in a few arguments with Wildcat and a couple have gotten really out of hand, with me being just as much if not more at fault. But he's got a point about the game. I think Cal could've made a few adjustments to help the team. I don't know if I'd blame him for the loss or not but even if I did, doesn't change the way I feel about him. I still wouldn't trade him for anyone and I'm a huge fan. It's ok to constructively criticize him. It doesn't revoke your BBN card. There is a huge difference in bashing and constructive criticism. I don't have a problem with what Wildcat said about the game. He stated the reasons he felt that this game was on Cal and made some legit points. Doesn't mean I agree with everything but I can respect that opinion. That's all.

Thank you...... I know I'm tough to handle sometimes but thanks for not holding grudges and understanding where I was coming from!

 

[Larry Skaggs]

Hard to play basketball if you have to constantly look out for jihad. If this tournament was in Nashville or in Bowling Green, we win gold easy

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

So much correlation in this single sentence. Amazing.

I bolded it for the confused.

Do you think it can effect recruiting..... even slightly? Even just put a doubt for a minute inside a recruits head?

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Hard to play basketball if you have to constantly look out for jihad. If this tournament was in Nashville or in Bowling Green, we win gold easy

..... Canada had to have the same fears.

 

[Blue Decade]

Hard to play basketball if you have to constantly look out for jihad. If this tournament was in Nashville or in Bowling Green, we win gold easy

Really? I am as concerned about current international politics as anyone else. But relevance in this instance? Are you suggesting (which might make some sense) that USA would have won yesterday with Bagley, Ayton, etc.? For example, could they have altered trajectory of Barrett's shots? Maybe so. But you play with the roster you have. I can't remember a prior year when every eligible player tried out.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

We have a few idiots on this board it seems.


I 100% guarantee this will not effect recruiting.

lol smh

 

[Larry Skaggs]

On a jihad scale, one American is worth fifty virgins, while a Cannadian is only worth one. Big difference that results in bad freethrow shooting, defense, and rebounding

 

[BlueBlood66]

Exactly how will this hurt recruiting? This will maybe hurt Cal with USA basketball, but this will not hurt recruiting. I just don't see that at all.

I don't think the effects of losing will go very far but I would say it will probably resonate with the guys on the team. That includes Langford, Quickley, and Reddish.

 

[Blue Decade]

We have a few idiots on this board it seems.


I 100% guarantee this will not effect recruiting.

lol smh

Good to know. Anything can effect recruiting in a specific instance. But Calipari signs the #1 or #2 class in the country every single year. If anyone actually thinks that will change because of 1 international game, then I disagree with them.

 

[Hjack]

Yeah it does matter........ its not life is over type matter but it definitely is we're going to be f*cking annoyed by haters for a year now type of matter. and for Cal...... this will hurt in recruiting... bank on it.

Yeah, we will probably only have the 1st or 2nd ranked recruiting classes in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021. How depressing.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

Good to know. Anything can effect recruiting in a specific instance. But Calipari signs the #1 or #2 class in the country every single year. If anyone actually thinks that will change because of 1 international game, then I disagree with them.

Yeah, disagree here as well.
Watch- Cal will sign "only" the 2nd best class nxt year (still incredible ) and people will be all butthurt saying "our recruiting is suffering Bc of the U-19 game !! Seeee!?!"

Which would obviously be absurd. But I can see certain posters sayin/ going that lol

 

[Dakota25]

It's not a big deal, only two of our guys are even on the team. If it was all UK players I would be a little concerned but most of the team isn't our players. However it does suck that the usa team lost, but I really don't care too much.

 

[FrankUnderwood]

I don't think the effects of losing will go very far but I would say it will probably resonate with the guys on the team. That includes Langford, Quickley, and Reddish.

We will land 2 of those guys.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Good to know. Anything can effect recruiting in a specific instance. But Calipari signs the #1 or #2 class in the country every single year. If anyone actually thinks that will change because of 1 international game, then I disagree with them.

I agree we'll still have the #1 recruiting class..........but if this resonates with Reddish and along with other factors chooses Duke... then that in turn hurt recruiting did it not? Even if its just one of many factors ... it still had some small effect which I used the term hurt.. which is technically correct but some seem to act as if I was saying it was going to majorly damage recruiting...

PS I'm just using Reddish as an example because he's one of the best players we are after. Its sad I have to make this claim because someone will try and twist it into me saying we're going to lose Reddish to Duke or something just to bash me.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

Yeah, we will probably only have the 1st or 2nd ranked recruiting classes in 2018, 2019, 2020, and 2021. How depressing.

Yeah but would you rather have the #1 recruiting class with Reddish and Bol Bol or the #1 recruiting class with Reid and King? its just a hypothetical scenario to show that not all #1 classes are created equal.

 

[Blueaz]

I like him being honest but it brings up the question... Does he not think of these things during the game or whats keeping him from making those changes??

That IMO is his big coaching flaw.
In game adjustments.
I don't know if he doesn't trust himself or the players... to try it more.
When, he has made significant in game adjustments; he has done some very solid moves.
All professionals learn and grow from their shortcomings.
Yes, he is not perfect..,but also, yes; I wouldn't trade him for anyone else. Especially, since he will be bringing home another title in the next couple of years

 

[blubo]

It's all hindsight. every coach can say after a loss "i shoulda done this, i shoulda done that."

Maybe if he had done "this" or "that" the team would've lost by the same score anyway.

 

[Fancatstik]

If this had been any of the coaches on our hit list we would have been all over them.
It's not the end of the world, but it's not good either.

If this was K or Self our fans would not of bashed them. We are BIGGER then that.

 

[skcatfan]

We have a few idiots on this board it seems.


I 100% guarantee this will not effect recruiting.

lol smh

We have more than a few and any loss by Cal brings them out in droves.

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

If this was K or Self our fans would not of bashed them. We are BIGGER then that.

Nah sorry, If it was K or Self ... I would of made like a Kansas player and hit that ho hard.

 

[Fancatstik]

Nah sorry, If it was K or Self ... I would of made like a Kansas player and hit that ho hard.

and you would of had a lot of company too even from a lot of the one's who are jumping on your arse.

 

[Mike-D]

Wow.

 

[truebluewildcat]

What if I told you that the mighty BBN would one day be arguing about draft positions and U19 basketball....An ESPN 30 for 30 event on the evolution of the mighty BBN and greatest sports culture shift in the history of sports.

Tubby Smith "I was run out of town because I didn't win enough final fours/titles...but now on any given year Cal can be in trouble because he didn't sign the best player and/or class, have a half dozen lotto picks at year's end, or win a glorified AAU/All Star circuit game in the off season..."

Matt Jones: "Well...Man...Come on...I mean..."

Rick Pitino (tatted up, wearing an orange jump suit, and talking through a phone from behind glass) "yeah I used to coach Kentucky basketball and was largely responsible for a team that made it to 3 consecutive finals...seems times have changed, and that sort of thing isn't even important anymore...now the coach has to save families who haven't tasted food or drink in 18 years, pull them from complete destitution, and set them up for generations...Sure I put kids in the pros and care about people and want my players to do well but nobody gave me a CNN Heroes Award...anything that came after a successful season was a very small cherry on top of a very large sunday, nobody cared"...

Billy Gillispie: "hell they fired my ass shortly after an NIT trip..."

John Short: "We beat Germany by 22 biggins..."

Joe Fan: "NCAA Titles?...what about them?...any body can get to a final four and even win a title these days...villinova, oregon, gonzaga, south carolina...Cal has signed the top class every year, he has more draft picks than anyone every year, his players sign max contracts, he coached Puerto Rico one year and he's not even Puerto Rican, and then he coached U19 but we don't like to talk about that here in Kentucky it's a sore subject...real dark times for UK basketball that summer when USA U19 lost to Canada in the FIBA title game."