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Ugghh....Cal getting hammered on Twitter!

Educated basketball response is that Cal is the head coach of team USA and team USA lost by 12 to an inferior opponent.

We allowed 1 player to go off against us. And it wasnt really jump shooting... we allowed Barrett to constantly attack the rim.. no double teams... no denying him the ball... 2nd.. when it was obvious the first team couldnt shoot the earth aiming straight down...... did he switch lineups up? no... all the shooters are on team B but lacks athleticism and team A is non shooters but all athleticism.... common sense would be to always keep a shooter or two on the court to open it up for attacking the basket.

Allowing Canada to spread us out and attack all game long.... I didnt see any changes in defense.... did you?


Yawn.

You really don't believe this drivel you just posted do you?
 
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Hater or Dumbass.. you chose.
Your comment is exactly what people throw out anytime Cal loses a game or a recruit. Why does he deserved to be bashed?? Then the way you defended it suggest you have an agenda.

I said he deserved it over this one game....... the haters try to say it for his whole career so huge difference there.

and why wouldnt he deserve criticism for this game? If we all praise him for winning tough games...... then why cant he be subjected to criticism for losing a game by 12 to a team who was 1 future NBA player and a bunch of mid major talent ?

And what do you mean the way I defended it? I not only said thank god cal is our coach...... but also made it clear i thought he deserved it for this 1 game only........ Whats my agenda other than saying today was a bad game?
 
I watched some of the 2nd half and I thought the issue wasn't the type of defense they played but how poorly they played it. Honestly, none of them looked like they know how to play defense and most of them didn't give much of an effort. In this game the US had no one who could guard Barrett- Not sure what Cal could've done about that. He took responsibility for the loss unlike K, Pitiner, Self or Ole Roy who would have made excuses.

And yeah Self & the other coaches will sure look great talking about how Cal lost as USA U19 team coach while they sat on their ass at home cause they weren't good enough to coach a USA team.. Sour grapes is always so flattering and impressive.

Plus I'd be willing to bet that Cal got a lot of good recruiting time in with Canada's Barrett. I'd be willing to bet that he and Reddish wear UK blue next year... Wanna bet agaibnst it?

Its not a matter of being not good enough, its a matter of not being a NIke school. At least in coach Self's case.
 
The amount of angst and handwringing over this is what's truly embarrassing. Check that...it's hilarious.

BFD we lost this U19 tourney? Who cares if Cal coached well or not? Does not and will not affect UK one iota, and that's all I really care about in basketball. The number of chits I give about this can be counted on zero hands.

[laughing] at anyone who thinks this will affect UK recruiting or success in any way.
 
The amount of angst and handwringing over this is what's truly embarrassing. Check that...it's hilarious.

BFD we lost this U19 tourney? Who cares if Cal coached well or not? Does not and will not affect UK one iota, and that's all I really care about in basketball. The number of chits I give about this can be counted on zero hands.

[laughing] at anyone who thinks this will affect UK recruiting or success in any way.
Obviously the baby does lol
 
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a psycho? Lmao. if I'm one then you are right there with me . Or is it only people you disagree with that are psycho's?
WIS, I have no beef with you, but you need to let this go, dude. You are WAYYYYYY overthinking things and are rightly being called out on it. It's not about whether or not Cal coached this *one* game well or not. It's about your over the top reaction to it.

Just walk away. Have a drink, kiss the SO, walk the dog, eat a sandwich, watch Netflix, or just go to bed. Do anything other than...this. Let it go and let this thread die. It never should have been born.
 
An "ugghh" and a "twitter" in the title. If that doesn't say knee-slapping hilarity is about to ensue then nothing does.

About this comical thread. Every loss for Cal leads to him getting "hammered" on some form of social media. It does nothing in basketball, but give his haters something to chide him about. It has no effect on his recruiting. Kids come here for the NBA, not FIBA titles.
 
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When you go 25/43 from the FT Line that isn't going to help? That is nearly 20 misses from the FT Line and that hurts. Then you have 1 player scoring near 40 points(38) in Barrett and that was the player that beat us. We have solid 'D' on Barrett and hold him to his average in the tourney which is half of the 38 he scored tonight and hit some FT's and we win this game easy. Barrett beat us today along with missing so many FT's!
 
Rival coaches do care and they will hit that note until the key is a stump. Power of persuasion ... Say something enough and people might just believe it. Look it up... psychology is a helpful tool in everyday life.



What’s more powerful: flaunting 30+ NBA picks in 8 years – all of whom played – or will play – multiple years in the NBA, or some random such-ass coach trying to yap about Calipari losing in the semifinals of the U19 games?

I think you’re going overboard with the psychoanalytical stuff here. If Coach K has no problem landing top 10 kids after getting his ass torched annually by the likes of Mercer and South Carolina, Calipari will have no problem continuously selling the program to elite kids.
 
Coaches used the Platoon against us and it worked with a few kids....... .... These coaches will try and spin anything to their favor.

Getting backlogged at UK because some guys who were considered OAD (twins) ended up staying longer is not remotely the same as Cal losing an international tourney. The fears of a fringe OAD staying too long is a legit concern for elite kids. The narrative you're creating is not.

If a kid goes elsewhere because Cal lost the U-19 semis, my guess is that we probably weren't going to land him anyway.
 
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Most of the Earth, other than us on this board, didn't even know the games were being played. I think both Cal and UK will be just fine.

Can't be true. There's apparently a list of recruits out there saying, "Well, NOW I know I can't go to Kentucky under Cal. He lost the U-19 game against Canada!"

Why would any recruit want to play for a man that shields the team from criticism after an international loss? You'd think they'd much rather play for a coach that will publically humiliate them and throw them under the bus at the post game presser.
 
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No effect on recruiting ... The issue as usual can be defined by numerous posters on here who suggest Baker will and should get minimum pt because he's not a 5-star. Or in their words "just not ready". Meanwhile we have those saying Diallo is the best 2-guard in the class (despite the fact he can't shoot). And so it goes.

It's not far-fetched to see UK losing a game or two this year with its 5-star athletes doing a lot of brick-laying while its shooters sit idly by (maybe with reps as poor defenders).. And Cal WILL step up and take the blame.

But history suggests he won't change and today's game is just another example in the minds of those who think this way.

Should be a fun year but the plot is not very different from every other Cal year.

Which 3 and 4 star guys deserved to play over the 5 star studs the last few seasons?

I'm confused.
 
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I think this was the 1st game the U19 team lost since 2011. Ouch. Not good.

There's only been two USA titles in that span. They haven't had an annual championship format.

Since 1987, there's been 10 championship tournaments in this format. The USA has won it 4 times in that span, and 6 times overall.

Still an upset and still disappointing, but hardly ground breaking stuff here.
 
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I missed what happened so I'm going by what I have read. It seems team USA lost to team Canada and somehow it's all Val's fault. I remember a few years ago when team Canada had some guy named Jamal Murray that lit up team USA and beat them by himself during the hoops summit game. Anyways, I don't see how this will have any negative impact on cal or recruiting as it's one game and half of those guys won't even be recruited by cal or uk and the ones that are I find it hard to believe they would turn down cal and uk after one unfortunate loss.
 
WIS, I have no beef with you, but you need to let this go, dude. You are WAYYYYYY overthinking things and are rightly being called out on it. It's not about whether or not Cal coached this *one* game well or not. It's about your over the top reaction to it.

Just walk away. Have a drink, kiss the SO, walk the dog, eat a sandwich, watch Netflix, or just go to bed. Do anything other than...this. Let it go and let this thread die. It never should have been born.

Buddy, the only over the top reaction I had was getting frustrated by the couple of people who took what I said way out of context and blew it up just to try and make me look like a cal hater.

Then I said it would hurt recruiting and people WAY over reacted and took it to mean something far beyond what I meant it to... Its like If i said stubbing your toe would hurt and you took it to mean you'd die a horrible slow death... So really who is over reacting here?
 
Barrett is clearly the best player in the world that's 19 or under. Cal lost because this team couldn't stop the next great player. It happens.
 
Getting backlogged at UK because some guys who were considered OAD (twins) ended up staying longer is not remotely the same as Cal losing an international tourney. The fears of a fringe OAD staying too long is a legit concern for elite kids. The narrative you're creating is not.

If a kid goes elsewhere because Cal lost the U-19 semis, my guess is that we probably weren't going to land him anyway.

I'd like debating this further but there is no way to defend my stance without people taking it and blowing it out of proportion . I say Cal deserves Criticism and people in their minds take it to mean I'm trashing Cal as bad coach. I say it will hurt recruiting and people take it to mean that we'll have a bad recruiting year. But I do respect you debating it rather than going straight to name calling and insults.
 
Cal deserves it this time. Hopefully he learns from this .


Now there's the beginning of an often heard post during the season. I had forgotten how much those passive aggressive posts irritated me.

"Hopefully he learns from this". [roll]
 
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I'd like debating this further but there is no way to defend my stance without people taking it and blowing it out of proportion . I say Cal deserves Criticism and people in their minds take it to mean I'm trashing Cal as bad coach. I say it will hurt recruiting and people take it to mean that we'll have a bad recruiting year. But I do respect you debating it rather than going straight to name calling and insults.
LMAO at you accusing others of resorting to name calling and insults. Do you even read what you post?
 
Yeah .........I'm sure no other coach out there is going to hit this home in recruiting at all.... sure.........
Your point is taken, but do you really think this is going to resonate with a 17 year old. Coach K: Hey 5 star recruit do you really want to play at UK with Coach Cal, they lost to Canada? RECRUIT: Mercer and LeHigh says hello
 
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LMAO at you accusing others of resorting to name calling and insults. Do you even read what you post?

First off... calling you jeffy is not some amazing insult. Its a nick name that you shouldnt even get upset over.

second.. They name called me and i responded. Yeah I probably shouldnt result to name calling back but hell... if you do it to me then be prepared to get the same treatment in return.

Since you admitted a year ago to personally trolling me because I called you Jeffy...... you still hold a stupid grudge and thats why you ignore everyone calling me names first right off the bat and focus on me responding to those insults.

But then again you still think that game at Kansas was officiated fairly so why should anyone have a discussion with you?
 
I hate when Cal loses a game and then after says he should have tried something different like trapping or doubling. He makes him look pretty bad tbh after the game when someone drops 40.
 
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I hate when Cal loses a game and then after says he should have tried something different like trapping or doubling. He makes him look pretty bad tbh after the game when someone drops 40.

I like him being honest but it brings up the question... Does he not think of these things during the game or whats keeping him from making those changes??
 
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There's only been two USA titles in that span. They haven't had an annual championship format.

Since 1987, there's been 10 championship tournaments in this format. The USA has won it 4 times in that span, and 6 times overall.

Still an upset and still disappointing, but hardly ground breaking stuff here.
If this had been any of the coaches on our hit list we would have been all over them.
It's not the end of the world, but it's not good either.
 
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First off... calling you jeffy is not some amazing insult. Its a nick name that you shouldnt even get upset over.

second.. They name called me and i responded. Yeah I probably shouldnt result to name calling back but hell... if you do it to me then be prepared to get the same treatment in return.

Since you admitted a year ago to personally trolling me because I called you Jeffy...... you still hold a stupid grudge and thats why you ignore everyone calling me names first right off the bat and focus on me responding to those insults.

But then again you still think that game at Kansas was officiated fairly so why should anyone have a discussion with you?
You're usually the first one to resort to personal insults, so talking about others doing it is hypocritical.
But you do you.
 
Yeah it does matter........ its not life is over type matter but it definitely is we're going to be f*cking annoyed by haters for a year now type of matter. and for Cal...... this will hurt in recruiting... bank on it.

It will not hurt recruiting. He is still the best recruiter in the game. He has blown bigger games than this and he still gets the players.
 
Your point is taken, but do you really think this is going to resonate with a 17 year old. Coach K: Hey 5 star recruit do you really want to play at UK with Coach Cal, they lost to Canada? RECRUIT: Mercer and LeHigh says hello

It shouldnt resonate much but 17 year olds follow basketball and read social media. There is a lot of Cal criticism on social media right now and you never know just how much that could creep into a kids mind.

Its not going to hit us hard..... no way.. Cal's too good but what if K uses this in an intelligent way with Reddish .. just saying over and over again that he wouldnt of lost if K was coaching and points to the gold medals yadda yadda yadda (god i want to throw up typing that) .. I dont know if that would work but I guess it could....... and if it did then thats hurting recruitng is it not?
 
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