Are the odds in favor of bench guys sticking around until they get their chance? Regardless of details, the results say otherwise.
Travis Graf
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I agree about waiting but I never wanted Oscar back so I wouldn't have cared if he came back to play CBB as a soon to be 28 yr old at another school. Would've moved quickly in that capacity.
So Graf really only had news about the two 3 stars visiting?That's lame and I was planning on signing up for HOB.
How am "I" going off on a tangent?
My question (which YOU replied to) was why is everyone up in arms about this kid.
You said he won't play.
So then I asked, "Why be up in arms about a kid who won't play"?
How in seven hells is that a damn tangent?
And I didn't disagree with you, but you responded to my question, yet are bending over backwards to NOT actually answer it.
I don't disagree that Cal doesn't use depth, never said you were wrong, it simply has nothing to do with my original question.
Why be up in arms about a kid if you don't even think he'll play? Worst case scenario, he's a pretty damn good practice player.
Meaningless speculation until rosters are complete and until end of December when conference play begins. Only then will we have a legit idea of who is who in sec.
That doesn't appear the case to me. Had news about Kaluma and Reeves also, as well as maybe another player being mentioned that I haven't figured out yet.
Much more, though, than the two 3-stars. It was confirmed he was talking about 4 players. Two that "move the needle", and 2 depth pieces (who I'm assuming are the 3-stars, even though Burks has no business not being a 4 star).
You might miss him when Ugo battles against the tough SEC.He's a total project in every way.
CL was a huge bust here, as far as I’m concerned! Tall and athletic, but limited basketball skill. Weak handle and shot, but thinks he’s Jimmy Butler.
No, hopefully they can get him on one though
Travis Graf is lame.No exciting news at all not even a visit from an important target.
He's a sleeper. Definitely think Burks is better than his current ranking.
He's better than that worthless Miranda.
Thiero/Onyenso hung around. CJ Fredrick leaving isn't going to upset anyone and if it does, I mean they gave the guy 2 ****ing years to get his ass on the court and he was made of peanut brittle. That's not on Kentucky and they couldn't afford to rely on that guy. Lance Ware staying would excite who exactly? So aside from them.....we knew Wallace/Toppin were leaving...Livingston likely too. Oscar needed to leave but his camp played games and used Kentucky fans as a PR threat and weapon against Cal/program. Collins had his father die in front of him in Lexington and was understandably a complete mess. Then his Grandfather passed after the year. He just needed to get away. Think everyone understands that. Do you really give a shit where Sahvir Wheeler's quitting/divisive ass went? So end of the day the "developmental" players stayed and rest of guys who left are now seen in some light that honestly I never saw most of them in.
Reeves is the guy you have to get back. That one--I'd agree. But he has a key part and is a weapon who fits with the rest of roster.
You're missing the whole thing. It's not about being upset at signing the kid. We are upset at how this movie ends. We've seen it so many times we can say the lines before the actors say them. Hey man, we'd all love to go back to developing kids and seeing them contribute down the road. That doesn't happen here. If you don't get that, then I guess I can't tell you.
That dude is an absolute animal and I can't express how incredible it would be to get him to reclass for us this year.
Unreal potential and tenacious.
See but that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying developmental guys don't stay, regardless of details. It doesn't matter. None of these bench kids matter. So it's largely a waste of time.
Ready to move on. Part of College sports that is fun. May not be better but maybe the team will be? Either way, players who have had 4 yrs and are going to be 28 yrs old shouldn't be playing CBB. It's a joke. Oscar did what he wanted to do and happy for him. Gave a lot to Kentucky but ready to move on and see what this team can do.
Everyone assumes they'll play the same and that's what I do think is going to change significantly-how they play.
Well good luck with all freshmen including UGO and Adou who didn't play any.Experience is what's winning championships right now.
Bench kids don't matter but we need to fill the roster. I'm lost now. So attempt to get guys who only have experience but may not want to come--and ignore guys who want to come that could be players because "developmental guys don't stay" and "none of these bench kids matter"?
I'm super stoked about this group of non-needle movers moving the needle for us.
I watched experienced Kentucky teams that went a combined 2-4 in Postseason play. So if this group can win 3 Postseason games total, they'll have improved over the '22 and '23 teams. If they can't--you get your wish and likely a new coach. Either way, you win. So what's there to be upset about?
Yes. You either see a team improve or the likelihood of a new coach taking over is very high. So what's upsetting? Things are going to workout either way if you are not happy. They have to win for him to keep his job and if they don't-he's gone. So how do you lose if you aren't happy?
With as late as it is. Burks/hart/reeves/ Kaluma and let’s say somto can’t Mrs to that’s good for where things looked like they were headed
I get it, but the burks kid has legit potential and can turn into something good
He's terrible but now we are pumping up 3 stars.It's like the Tubby days.
If cal struggles this year he has to have enough self awareness to know he can’t stay
Not sure that he'd even factor into this one. It's why I'm not flipping out about this year. It's either going to improve or I highly doubt Calipari is back for '25 season and you really want to get things right going into '25 season because that '25 recruiting class is LOADED nationally. Relying on FR every year has peaks/valleys as you depend on the strength of the overall class. One thing I've liked about '23 class is they are competitive and look like a class that lacks elite NBA guys but has some excellent CBB players/prospects. The '25 class has it all. They are deep with talent and people who can play and when you factor in that AJ Dybantsa likely reclassifies to '25 too--makes it even deeper. So you need program in right place to benefit by that year.
Who did you want them to target/land after the season ended? Or who did you want to stay that left the team? I'm not being critical/confrontational, just asking.
There’s a reason other high major teams are after him. And by the videos you can tell he has talent and is a good player. Now will he pan out if he comes here who knows, but he is good and talented
I’m as vocal in my frustration as anybody, but I don’t get hating on this kid or even the hart kid really. We wanted Kentucky to add players for depth, it clear they are trying to do that. They also can get players who have experience reeves/jones/Kaluma. Paolo bancheros and Anthony Davis’s aren’t available right now, they need depth, these two guys don’t hurt, and in burks case you might have a hidden gem
