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I have to admit I’ve wondered for a while now if both our football and basketball programs would be better off in another conference.
The sec does us no favors in basketball. Could you imagine duke, UNC or Kansas getting the kind of calls against them that we got against Tennessee? Or anyone getting the whistle against those teams that grant Williams got against us the last two games? Can you imagine duke, UNC or Kansas losing a game the way we lost to LSU?
And I’ve always felt the football program would have a better chance at consistently competing in just about any other conference.
What if it came down to either keeping Cal or staying in the SEC?
No offense to OP, but this discussion is way beyond him.
NOT talking about intelligence.
But (speaking as a business owner), there are zero reasons to even mention leaving the SEC for the Big 10 or fill-in-the-blank.
I meant no disrespect to your thread.What kind of business do you own?
7 teams in tourney this year. Big time football, baseball,etc.UK Basketball is SEC basketball.......
This is the absolute truth. We're as good as we are in Football because we belong to the SEC. If we moved to a lesser conference, recruiting would immediately regress to the level of the conference.I think it helps us in football more than we realize.
If we leave the SEC, then our football recruiting drops, and we become a lower-tier ACC team.
No, thank you.
Why should we leave...unc and duke should join the sec. Afterall they are more south than KYI have to admit I’ve wondered for a while now if both our football and basketball programs would be better off in another conference.
The sec does us no favors in basketball. Could you imagine duke, UNC or Kansas getting the kind of calls against them that we got against Tennessee? Or anyone getting the whistle against those teams that grant Williams got against us the last two games? Can you imagine duke, UNC or Kansas losing a game the way we lost to LSU?
And I’ve always felt the football program would have a better chance at consistently competing in just about any other conference.
What if it came down to either keeping Cal or staying in the SEC?
Please quit the no respect angle. We are in the prime time slot every week on the SEC network. All the coaches realize the championships run through UK. Thirteen of the fourteen fan bases think we get all the calls. How many of the SEC schools would like to get the attention we get in basketball? We get many more CBS games than the other conference schools. I am sorry but I have a hard time with constant pity partyHere in lies the problem. The conference gets zero respect nationally because of this, and we get zero respect from the conference despite it.
The money we receive from the SEC provides the money for EVERY other sports program AND allows our athletic dep. to give over $1 million to the university.
Because we are in the SEC, we have top of the line facilities in EVERY sport. So why would we leave the SEC?
I am a University of Kentucky fan, not just one UK sport!!!! I LOVE ALL UK TEAMS!!!!
We just placed 7 team in the NCAA tourney, I'd say that was a good measure of respect.Here in lies the problem. The conference gets zero respect nationally because of this, and we get zero respect from the conference despite it.
I was SHOCKED you guys took UL into your conference. I still can’t believe it . I honestly think it cheapened the ACC .UK in the ACC would make a lot of sense IMO. I stated this in another thread. MD left the ACC, and I believe they were an original member there. UK would get to play UL twice. UK basketball would be better off IMO, especially with K and Roy getting older. In football, both Duke and UNC have made it to the title game, so you imagine UK football could enjoy more success. The ACC would be the mother of all conferences in basketball just like the SEC is in football. UK has no chance in football as it stands.
Football wise? Of course we are.I mean do you have a link or something to some numbers that show that we’re really pulling in that much more money from being in the sec?
I’m genuinely curious to see this
Stoops has had to work hard to get the recruits we are now getting. If we moved to a lesser conference like the acc or b10, we'd go back to competing with MAC schools for Football recruits. The SEC is a big draw for MANY good Football recruits.When an outsider such as myself looks at it from this point of view, then yes it makes no sense for UK to move. It is unfortunate however, because I believe it would otherwise be an incredible partnership. Just imagine UK vs Duke, Carolina, and of course UL twice, along with Cuse, etc.... and in football, UK would have a better chance of going to the Conference championship game from time to time, not to mention if Miami, and FSU get back on track in football and if ND fully joins, along with the ACC network. Clemson has already proven itself to be a power.
We just placed 7 team in the NCAA tourney, I'd say that was a good measure of respect.
Here's what I know. UK fans are like a lot of women with whom you can tell them 1000 times how wonderful they are but tell them once something uncomplimentary and that will be the only thing they remember. We see it time after time. Jay Bilas, Dan Dakich...name the talking head, they can drool all over UK and yet if they say one negative thing about UK then "They are the worst!".
The people talking on the radio and tv have zero effect in what happens in games.
SEC basketball has gone through times when it has been considered one of the best and deepest conference in the country...and it's has gone through times when it has been deservedly trashed. Going into this season it was suggested by many that it would get 9 teams into the tourney, how can anyone say that equates to "zero respect"?
The SEC has been, is, and will always be a football first conference and you should damn well love that it is because frankly, that's where the money is. Nobody outside of the states of Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana and North Carolina gives two hoots about college basketball until at best, football season is over and for most, not until the NCAA tourney.
As it should be.No, dear Lord stop with this stupidity.
Baaketball isnt what dictates policy. Football does.
In the past 8, or so, decades not ONE program has left the SEC. Per the last SEC commissioner, the SEC doesn’t have a buy-out clause because no one wants to leave, but they line up to get in. Couple that with our 1 million SEC basketball titles and we ain’t going anywhere.
I think it helps us in football more than we realize.
If we leave the SEC, then our football recruiting drops, and we become a lower-tier ACC team.
No, thank you.
I googled "why did Tulane leave the SEC" and found this article about both Tulane and GTActually three programs have left the SEC. Georgia Tech, Tulane and Sewanee. All for different reasons.
I could not disagree more. Even if recruiting dropped, the level of competition ALSO drops SIGNIFICANTLY. Right now, UK is recruiting at around #30 in the country. Let's say recruiting drops a bit. UK would still be top 6 in the ACC while at their current level, they're recruiting ahead of only Vandy and Mizzou in the SEC.
Look at all of the mediocre teams from other conferences that have had glory runs built on soft schedules (ahem, UL anyone???). This literally does not happen in the SEC b/c of who one has to play.
Think UL would EVER have been sniffing the playoffs if they were an SEC team? I think not.
We went 10-3 last yearUK in the ACC would make a lot of sense IMO. I stated this in another thread. MD left the ACC, and I believe they were an original member there. UK would get to play UL twice. UK basketball would be better off IMO, especially with K and Roy getting older. In football, both Duke and UNC have made it to the title game, so you imagine UK football could enjoy more success. The ACC would be the mother of all conferences in basketball just like the SEC is in football. UK has no chance in football as it stands.