That’s not who’s being sent in this new mobilization. You may want to become educated what you discuss. Read the Russian shill NYT article I linked. If you don’t see there is a major shift occurring then you are not an honest person. fFs the NYT is telling you there has been a major shift and Russia is 2 weeks away from sending another wave of 300000 on different fronts.
It would be more appropriate if you didn’t pretend that everybody who disagreed with you was a Putin supporter.
How are we encouraging a blood bath? The combatants are Russia and Ukraine, with Russia being the initiator of the war.
We’ve been saying since day 1 that Putin is a bad actor but that DOES NOT make this our war.
We are supplying the means to prolong it. Please don’t pretend you don’t know that.
He’s admired as a great leader by many Americans, mostly alt right, I would say.
The blood bath involves Ukrainians as well. Civilian and military. End the bloodbath now zelensky go to the table. Maybe another 150000 dead Ukrainians before he realizes he can’t win? The war isn’t about how many Russians you can kill. It’s about keeping your country and sparing your people too.
Forcing them to the table? To do what, make Ukraine let Russia have the provinces that it has occupied? Something else?
I know and the sheer numbers are a problem. The other issues I listed still exist though.
Give them Donbas and in a few years they will just want more. They want Ukraine. They have made it clear and our anti-war at all cost friends on here just refuse to accept that.
Maybe so BUT if Ukraine really has moved past corruption they should be able to build a military to defend themselves and nato make it clear in any agreement they will do more to aid Ukraine if Russia attacks again. The problem Ukraine faces is now is the window to only give up Donbas. I think by the comments made today by the Wagner leader the aspiration is to go all the way to the dnipro river.
For starters, the bloodbath that was mentioned in the posts preceding that.
Yeah. You accuse anybody who disagrees as being a Putin supporter and then claim that’s just a generalization?
And just how does Vladimir Putin get forced to the table? Maybe by the record-breaking and continuing sanctions against him and his oligarch allies? Maybe by supplying Ukraine with advanced weapons to resist Putin’s land-grabbing invasion?
I participate in discussions about the war on several sites. At the beginning of the war there was much more open support for Putin, but when Ukraine began kicking Russia’s butt the overall sentiment changed to, “I just don’t want my tax dollars going there. It’s not our war!”
Concessions from Ukraine, obviously. Unless you believe we should fight to the last Ukrainian.
It’s poor logic to assert than being against this war means being pro-Putin.
It isn't up to us. Get that through your head, its up to Ukrainians who are 10x the man you are.
I’m not interested in proving anything to you. You seem interested only in talking to yourself, and your logic is circular.
Wrong. It would have been over by now without our involvement.
Nothing circular, friend. I’m asking YOU to show HOW the interests of the US will be at risk if there is a forced concession from Ukraine. This shouldn’t be too much to ask.
Good lord you're dense. Along with stabilizing the worlds food supply (vitally important to us), Ukraine has abundant energy reserves, rare earth reserves, titanium and much more.
No it wouldn’t have been over. You got that part wrong. “We” don’t decide anything other than if and how much to help. Ukraine fights because they feel they have no choice, as an imperial neighbor wants to erase their homeland. It really is as simple as that.
I’m not interested in answering your questions either. I don’t owe you a thing.
The number of posters who are terrified that Putin will resort to nukes is hilarious. Propaganda at its most effective.
