Swanigan ... Hearing good things
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If he puts up those numbers then we will have one killer squad.
I just can't see him having those kind of numbers.
I'm thinking 5-6ppg, 5-6rpg, 1-2bpg, and 1-2apg in about 20-22mpg.
Those are realistic numbers, IMHO.
That would translate from his numbers last year. About 3 points, 3 boards and a block a game in 11 minutes. But with the team looking decidedly different this year, I wouldn't be surprised if he upped it a little bit. He'll be looked to as a leader more, not RELIED on to score per se, but I think he'll get more opportunities. If he can average 8-10 in both points & rebounds and provide solid D, I'd be more than happy.
We could use another talented big for sure. I think we are fine with what we have, but one more big body could sure help. As far as Lee is concerned, imo, he will be every bit as good as Stein was this year. I caught myself several times this year, including the Wisconsin game, begging for Coach to play Lee in place of Stein. I really look for Lee & Willis to surprise a lot of people next year. They, along with Hawkins have practiced against some big time players in their time at UK. That has to help. I think the key to us getting to another final 4 is Poythress. He could be our best player. I love having a talented senior on the team.
Swanigan is a "want" not a "need" to me.
Right now we have plenty of size and talent at the 4 and 5 spots.
Compare potential 2016 minutes with 2012:
Labissiere/Davis- 32mpg.
Poythress/Jones- 30mpg.
Lee/Wiltjer- 12mpg.
Willis/Vargas- 6mpg.
I see Lee getting more minutes and Poythress and Labissiere probably average a little less. Willis probably averages a little less than Vargas. Poythress gets some minutes at the 3 as well.
Plenty of minutes for our three main 5-star level talent bigs.
Swanigan would be a welcomed addition, but would pose a challenge for Cal to find minutes for everyone.
So he's not a necessity, he would be a nice luxury to have.
Right now we have plenty of size and talent at the 4 and 5 spots.
Compare potential 2016 minutes with 2012:
Labissiere/Davis- 32mpg.
Poythress/Jones- 30mpg.
Lee/Wiltjer- 12mpg.
Willis/Vargas- 6mpg.
I see Lee getting more minutes and Poythress and Labissiere probably average a little less. Willis probably averages a little less than Vargas. Poythress gets some minutes at the 3 as well.
Plenty of minutes for our three main 5-star level talent bigs.
Swanigan would be a welcomed addition, but would pose a challenge for Cal to find minutes for everyone.
So he's not a necessity, he would be a nice luxury to have.
If we hear of Crean taking a job at California, we know what's next.
Potentially he could be as good as WCS was last year. His rebound numbers were on par with WCS's if you give him the 25.5 minutes per WCS got. His points would have only went up to 6.5 though, although I'd argue it would be closer to 8-9 like WCS as Lee can rebound and get a lot of dunks due to effort. He will have to improve a lot on both sides, but it is possible. The good news is UK won't rely on him to start and play 25-26 minutes (or more) like WCS. That will be Skal and Poy's jobs.
Might as well go ahead and do it. I don't expect him to play a lot at the 3 but I'm really good with taking the over on that one. There maybe games where it would create an advantage and he gets more than that in a game and it is beneficial. He can guard 3's so it can make sense depending on the skills of the other four on the floor and the build of the opposing team.
A lot of assumptions here.
Skal as good as Davis? Most likely not.
Poythress has a ways to go to reach Jones' production and offensive skill set.
Willis has yet to play one minute in the post.
Let's hope you are correct though. I think we really need another big.
you don't wanna know.. Everybody on this forum would eat my lunch and ask I be blacklisted! It's all good though, I know what I did and what you haven't.
Matt Jones @KySportsRadio · 2h 2 hours ago For what its worth, I am hearing its Purdue or Kentucky for Swanigan. We shall see
Are you just an Internet asshole or are you one in real life too?
You think that you will blacklisted for attending Middle Tennessee State in the 80's?
I'm not sure why you think UK has to be a kid's first choice for us to take him? Since you have so much experience and knowledge please explain.
And BTW, I will put my recruiting experience up against your mid major experience any day.
I'm not sure why you think UK has to be a kid's first choice for us to take him? Since you have so much experience and knowledge please explain.
And BTW, I will put my recruiting experience up against your mid major experience any day.
Winslow is 6'4.5 without shoes, and weighs 223 pounds. That's what he measured as at the combine.
Winslow played the PF position when Duke had the success that they did, at that size. He was an incredibly small power forward by the season's end.
Charles Matthews doesn't weigh as much, but he's just as tall, and just as athletic. Matthews is also a better slasher (Winslow can only take it to the hoop with his left hand effectively, Matthews is able to use both hands well).
Matthews' athleticism, height, and slashing ability, as well as his passing ability which is surprisingly good will win him the small forward spot. Matthews is also a very good finisher through contact, and he will be playing college ball, which commonly uses a 3 guard lineup.
We will be perfectly fine with Matthews, and the only scenario he would play the 4 is for foul trouble.
Depends on the foul trouble. According to some on here, all of our bigs will foul out in the first half.
Anyone look see on UK Wikipedia lately? At the last roster spot? Lol...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_Kentucky_Wildcats_men's_basketball_team
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_Kentucky_Wildcats_men's_basketball_team
According to the last person that updated it 6 hours ago,, here's our secret inside person..
According to the last person that updated it 6 hours ago,, here's our secret inside person..
Pretty reliable dude. He knows his stuff, I hear.
From Matt Jones post on KSR tonight. This has to make you feel pretty good about getting at least one of Swanigan and Murray.
RECRUITING: The big news of the day was the decision by LeGerald Vick (Spanish for “The Gerald”) to attend Kansas next year. It was not a surprising choice, especially after his visit to Kentucky ended up not happening this weekend. For UK, Vick was somewhat of a backup option behind the twosome of Caleb Swanigan and Jamal Murray, both of whom UK would love to add this year. Chances are UK will only take one player and the folks I have talked to feel good about where UK stands with both guys.
RECRUITING: The big news of the day was the decision by LeGerald Vick (Spanish for “The Gerald”) to attend Kansas next year. It was not a surprising choice, especially after his visit to Kentucky ended up not happening this weekend. For UK, Vick was somewhat of a backup option behind the twosome of Caleb Swanigan and Jamal Murray, both of whom UK would love to add this year. Chances are UK will only take one player and the folks I have talked to feel good about where UK stands with both guys.
It makes me feel good a bout Matt Jones' ability to con enough knuckleheads into listening him, and thus keeping his business afloat.
Calling Vick somewhat of a backup option is a joke when he was just offered a scholly and the coaching staff got him to schedule a visit (all before Bill Self sealed the deal and cut UK off before they could get him on campus.).
Height would be very low down my list for worries with Alex Poythress if I were a Kentucky fan. Sure, if it were the NBA, he'd be pretty undersized, but 6'7" or 6'8" with his strength at close to 240 pounds is perfectly fine for the college game at the power forward spot on most nights. 2014-2015 UK with a 6'10" Trey Lyles starting at "small forward" due to having WCS and KAT starting at the 4 and 5 and Alex's injury is very much an exception rather than the rule. Depth behind him and Marcus Lee as well as how he holds up from his ACL injury throughout next season would be more legit concerns for me. But if you guys can get Caleb Swanigan, obviously a lot of those problems would go away.
On another note, GL to Alex with his recovery from the ACL. I hope his recovery and rehab is going as well for him as can be expected.
Classy post from a Duke fan! Rare around here
. I do expect us to compete next year regardless of if we get Swanigan.Classy post from a Duke fan! Rare around here
The Duke fans who lurk around here are typically fairly respectful. Nothing much to be bitter about these days, I suppose.
I sure hope we land Calieb !!! Come tha UK play fer NCAA Championship. Like PU but not gonna go anywhere but battle fer BIG 10 !!!!
For what its worth, I am hearing its Purdue or Kentucky for Swanigan. We shall see
Yep, could happen fairly quickly with Caleb, and consensus says he's a Cat. We'll soon see.
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