UK had 5 impact freshman in 2013-14. Without Aaron Harrison's heroics we don't make the final four. I think Brown, Rabb and Swanigan (if he goes) will be in for a rude awakening when they begin their quest to become a national contender. Does Cal have anyone returning that could help shoulder the load?
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UK had 5 impact freshman in 2013-14. Without Aaron Harrison's heroics we don't make the final four. I think Brown, Rabb and Swanigan (if he goes) will be in for a rude awakening when they begin their quest to become a national contender. Does Cal have anyone returning that could help shoulder the load?
Swanigan is going to California or Purdue. I think Michigan State has a better chance to reland him then him going to kentucky
Yup its just the way this class has gone this year. I would fully expect UK to strike out on the remaining targets lol
Rhav, foul trouble and/or an injury to any one of those 3 will cripple the team inside. Another big body could very well be a necessity
True, but we're not going to build a team like last season's, and that needs to be known. This team will be as deep as last year's Duke or Wiscy teams, the UK or UConn teams from 2 years ago, or even our 2012 team. It's got typical depth, with typical depth chart risks.
He will only come here if he wants to play against the best and compete for his time. He'll get plenty of minutes anywhere he goes, but it takes something to commit to big blue. You have to want to grind. His class didn't have many grinders in it. Pay attention to all the kids that spurned UK this year. I'd bet dollars to donuts they don't end up superstars. None of them.
I agree except for ingram. I don't like duke but him, Skal, and simmons are the top 3 players to become superstars
If he does land up at Cal they will be very good. They returned two guys who would have been drafted and would add three studs. With that said, they will all be there one year. Cal will fall back out of relevance. Cuonzo Martin had a nice run in the tourney last year with UT but I don't think he's a final four caliber coach. Makes literally zero sense to choose any of these schools over Kentucky, especially when all we are really missing is one more decently big body whether it be a wing or a PF. Would love to have Swanigan to replace Dakari, I see their games are pretty similar except Swanigan can shoot alot better.
If you don't think coaches talk and information is not shared, you are living in the dark ages. When one person speaks, it spreads through like wildfire.
I am wondering how Swanigan fits on a "team built around Ulis."
Doesn't seem to be too terribly quick and doesn't really play above the rim.
Like another poster said, I am concerned that this team will turn into another grind it out, pound it inside team with Swanigan on board.
Is that the best thing for Ulis, Briscoe, and Labissiere?
I'm not sure, but that's what Cal is here for. He'll have to figure that out if we land Swanigan.
Doesn't seem to be too terribly quick and doesn't really play above the rim.
Like another poster said, I am concerned that this team will turn into another grind it out, pound it inside team with Swanigan on board.
Is that the best thing for Ulis, Briscoe, and Labissiere?
I'm not sure, but that's what Cal is here for. He'll have to figure that out if we land Swanigan.
It's nice to have different dimensions to your team. If they need to slow it down and pound it inside, you go to Swanigan or Skal. Duke was a fast team last year, but when they had to slow it down, they went inside to Okafoe.
I'm good with that, as long as Coach is okay with it and Swanigan wants to play on a guard oriented team.
In the end, it's not up to us, it's up to Cal and Swanigan.
I won't complain one way or the other. After four Final Fours and a title in the last five years, I am totally trusting our coach to put together another contender.
Why be amazed? There was a buzz that UK eould land Brown too and that didnt work out.
I think Cat fans are just being cautious after the Brown burn.
I think Cat fans are just being cautious after the Brown burn.
I don't really consider Poy a big. He won't be a big in the NBA. He'll play the three or he won't get significant minutes in the league. He needs to continue honing his skills at the three for that purpose. Plus, we strongly need a three at UK this season. Small guard sized guys can shine from the three creating matchup issues for big SF types, but Poy creates matchup problems inside for most SF's because he is stronger than them.
I want a true three wing but it here isn't one left out there that can outplay Poy from what we see that's available.
Therefore, take Swanagan if he's truly available and allow Alex to develope for the next level. If he gets out played by Willis, Mathews , Briscoe? Use him as backup at the four. He has to contribute somewhere, but because he's a tweeter, Swanagan gives UK depth that would serve us during foul trouble enough to have the balance we need with our bigs. I find that comforting. Especially if Swanagan can be taught to bang and intimidate inside.
I want a true three wing but it here isn't one left out there that can outplay Poy from what we see that's available.
Therefore, take Swanagan if he's truly available and allow Alex to develope for the next level. If he gets out played by Willis, Mathews , Briscoe? Use him as backup at the four. He has to contribute somewhere, but because he's a tweeter, Swanagan gives UK depth that would serve us during foul trouble enough to have the balance we need with our bigs. I find that comforting. Especially if Swanagan can be taught to bang and intimidate inside.
I predict that you will be lucky to reach 25 post on this board before you are banned troll.
LOL! Playing time is won in practice. Calipari is not a communist! You don't turn away the best rebounder in this class to protect Marcus Lee's playing time. Fortunately, our coaches don't think that way. It has been proven over and over again that some posters on this board don't understand why certain players play and certain players sit. Calipari is allowed to keep up to 13 players on scholarship. The better the competition, the better the team. If Swanigan wants to play at Kentucky, and if he accepts Calipari's rules, then of course we take him. At this point, I have no idea where Swanigan will sign. But if he comes to Kentucky, he will compete for playing time like everyone else, There is more than enough time available for Swanigan, Labissiere, and Poythress. Assuming Poythress fully recovers. If Swanigan comes, some fans will have to get it through their heads that Swanigan has a higher upside than Lee, and a much higher upside than Willis. Calipari is playing for keeps, and he will create competition and distribute playing opportunities based on what works best for the program.
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His godfather and Purdue make it pretty simple. He's not coming to UK and really not that big a deal. He wants another school so bad but they don't have room, so he goes somewhere he doesn't really want to be (UK) ? Rather him go to Purdue than be here and make UK look like the last resort 
His godfather and Purdue make it pretty simple. He's not coming to UK and really not that big a deal. He wants another school so bad but they don't have room, so he goes somewhere he doesn't really want to be (UK) ? Rather him go to Purdue than be here and make UK look like the last resort
Rather a 5 star go somewhere else if it is perceived we were a last resort?
Purdue has room for him.
Cal can make room for him.
MSU has room for him.
But if he chose uk we are a last resort?
Even if we were deemed the last resort, I don't give a sh!t about labels, if the kid comes in and plays hard who in their right mind would care about what others thought?
Perhaps you didn't want Davis, everyone thought he was $200K
or Noel, as his recruitment was deemed dirty,
or Lyles, UL and IU swear UK paid his dad,
Teague his brother's shoe deal...hmm
John Wall and his breaking an entering charge - thug,
Bledsoe fake transcripts..
I will take any player Cals deems worthy and not give a damn about what others think.
I understand this.
I just hope Lee does as well.
And I hope the next "Lee" we recruit doesn't listen to other coaches who tell them that Cal doesn't mind recruiting over you if you don't contribute big your first two seasons.
I have no idea whether Swanigan is better than Lee or not. I have not seen enough of Swanigan to say.
As I have said before, I'll let Cal sort it out.
If Swanigan doesn't come here (I don't think he will) we will be fine, though.
I was hoping UK would get Diallo or Thorne but this kid sound as if he could help them next year. I am seeing very few cant miss players in this recruiting class. I am seeing a lot of players that should stay multiple years where ever they go to college to play basketball. We will probably however see the Kentucky effect and have two or three of our recruits opt for the NBA next year.
It's an automatic for the burger boys when they come to Ky to want to be one and done. Other than say, the SuperFive, most kids are not ready for NBA after one season. But if Booker slides in the lottery and we have 4 lottery picks, things here will not change. Poythress and Lee are the exceptions. Hopefully Tyler Ulis stays all four years, but I doubt it. Aaron probably made a huge mistake by not coming back. He would have made us #1 again. But, they gotta do what they gotta do and I will support Coach Cal because he has earned it.
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Classic example of a poster knowing absolutely nothing of what they're talking about. Last resort? GTFOHis godfather and Purdue make it pretty simple. He's not coming to UK and really not that big a deal. He wants another school so bad but they don't have room, so he goes somewhere he doesn't really want to be (UK) ? Rather him go to Purdue than be here and make UK look like the last resort
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If Swanigan comes, some fans will have to get it through their heads that Swanigan has a higher upside than Lee, and a much higher upside than Willis."
In what world does Swanigan have higher upside than Lee? If Lee improves his free throws and develops a few post moves, he's easily a lottery pick next year.
If Swanigan comes, some fans will have to get it through their heads that Swanigan has a higher upside than Lee, and a much higher upside than Willis."
In what world does Swanigan have higher upside than Lee? If Lee improves his free throws and develops a few post moves, he's easily a lottery pick next year.
If Swanigan comes here, is not OAD, and comes back for a second year, does that mean we miss on some stud bigs in a loaded 2016 class?
I know the easy answer is we would rather have a 5-star Sophomore back than a 5-star Freshman coming in, but not all classes are equal and the 2016 class is suppose to be a lot better than this one.
Not saying one way or the other, just putting it out there to be discussed.
I'd rather have a freshman Giles, Adebayo, Azubuike, Allen, Durham, and Ado over a sophomore swag
But if this spring has taught us anything it is that there is no way to know about these kids and who knows if any of those kids will come here.I doubt Swanigan comes here but if he wants to I don't blame Cal a bit for grabbing him because you can't count on anything for the next year.
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Although with Wall...him presumably throwing up "gang signs" the other night doesn't help with his perception any.
Cal did not promise Lee anything?? Lee was and is a project in progress. In full disclosure, Lee is my favorite player on the team. He has improved physically. He just needs to work on his mid range and FT's. To be fair, Lee is going to get his degree to pursue other endeavors after basketball. He is high energy player and I think he will give us a good year next season. The next Lee, Harrelson, and / or WCS can say Cal helped get them in the nba. GBB
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