Succeed and proceed has turned into fail and bail

[Swifterz]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

 

[Gromcat]

Constipation and dispensation.

The Kentucky effect.

 

[CincyUKFan]

And guys most likely to stick around and develop and become productive (Ugonna and Thiero, this season) get little time on the court and become potential transfers themselves.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

I wish wheeler failed and bailed or cal kicked him out. Would’ve been nice to have a real PG this season and not a non shooting midget that bails on his team. Worst Cal PG ever. It’s not close.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

10 man roster with injuries all year like every year and a struggle to get 8 guys out there. Length and no makers. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Rupp'sRunt]

10 man roster with injuries all year like every year and a struggle to get 8 guys out there. Length and no makers. Rinse and repeat.

So platoon next year

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

I wish wheeler failed and bailed or cal kicked him out. Would’ve been nice to have a real PG this season and not a non shooting midget that bails on his team. Worst Cal PG ever. It’s not close.

We have one of the decent transfers that were out there to rest Cason and play next to him at times and I guarantee we would have had a much better season and might even still be playing.

Good call Cow!

 

[Gromcat]

I wish wheeler failed and bailed or cal kicked him out. Would’ve been nice to have a real PG this season and not a non shooting midget that bails on his team. Worst Cal PG ever. It’s not close.

Terrible watching him be given the keys to the program for almost 2’years.

Truth is Calipari liked him because he couldn’t shoot.

We legit had

Wheeler
Wallace
Toppin
Collins
Ware
Oscar

Getting crazy minutes for half the year. Playing 4 guys at a time who have no range. It’s amazing to me people still support Caliprairie after that kind of sht show. It’s insulting.

 

[BBBLazing]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

Don't forget Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin and Kenny Walker. They didn't win either.

 

[ukfan117]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

Reading your post just drives the nail home. All of those guys with no titles is like salt in our wounds.

The first class was special because we should have won the title that year. Everything was going great until we played West Virginia. West Virginia was a terrible three point shooting team until they played against us. I think they hit 9 or 10 in that game.

The same goes for the 2011, 2014, and 2017 season. Great guards and in each of those games they lost, our guards shot poorly while the opposing guards shot lights out against us.

Such disappointment year after year.

 

[seccats04]

I wish wheeler failed and bailed or cal kicked him out. Would’ve been nice to have a real PG this season and not a non shooting midget that bails on his team. Worst Cal PG ever. It’s not close.

Sounds like Harrow too.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

This post is so 2018.

 

[wkycatfan]

There is some truth to this. Players first has morphed into The Program second.

 

[Short-Dawg-69]

It would be better if Cal would do the same.
Fail and Bail - meaning just leave UK.

 

[tiffincatfan79]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

1958 to 1978 was 20 years and 1978 to 1996 was 18 years. It’s not like Kentucky was winning a title every 5 years, the average is probably around 1 every 14 years or so for the total history of Kentucky basketball.

 

[BBNWildcat]

1958 to 1978 was 20 years and 1978 to 1996 was 18 years. It’s not like Kentucky was winning a title every 5 years, the average is probably around 1 every 14 years or so for the total history of Kentucky basketball.

Cal has one title in 35 years.

 

[BBNWildcat]

Don't forget Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin and Kenny Walker. They didn't win either.

Wow your three really countered his 50.

 

[BBBLazing]

Wow your three really countered his 50.

These were three all americans on the same team smart ass.

 

[Backer cutter]

This post is so 2018.

Running a little behind but yeah.

 

[bnewt]

Reading your post just drives the nail home. All of those guys with no titles is like salt in our wounds.

The first class was special because we should have won the title that year. Everything was going great until we played West Virginia. West Virginia was a terrible three point shooting team until they played against us. I think they hit 9 or 10 in that game.

The same goes for the 2011, 2014, and 2017 season. Great guards and in each of those games they lost, our guards shot poorly while the opposing guards shot lights out against us.

Such disappointment year after year.

Correct, uk was the best team
This game exposed ccc as a fraud
WVU' s best player was out so huggy played zone
Ccc had no clue how to attack and couldn't stop their guard from driving
14 years later, still has no clue about either

 

[YardCat]

This post is so 2018.

Just like Groundhog Day the last few years, waking up over and over talking about wait till next year.

 

[tiffincatfan79]

Cal has one title in 35 years.

Not at Kentucky and I thought that’s what we were talking about.

 

[BBNWildcat]

These were three all americans on the same team smart ass.

My statement stands. How many examples can you give to compare to CCC?

 

[BBNWildcat]

Not at Kentucky and I thought that’s what we were talking about.

It’s instructive that Ccc‘s track record is worse than UK’s.

 

[KyCatFan]

Run the weave and leave.

 

[UKNothinButNet]

And just think about the money we are spending for this ish-show.

 

[cat tat2]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

This post just about says it all… there’s not another coach in the country that has had so much talent and has done so little with it. Without a doubt, Cal is the greatest underachiever in college basketball! IMO. How anyone defends him is beyond me.

 

[Mike-D]

A lot of truth to fail & bail. 😔

 

[natchezrule]

Don't forget Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin and Kenny Walker. They didn't win either.

They were wildcats worth cheering for

 

[natchezrule]

Don't forget Sam Bowie, Melvin Turpin and Kenny Walker. They didn't win either.

These 3 counters his 50?

 

[Bluesbrother]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

Great post ... the truth is sobering. It's time for all of BBN to sober up.

 

[kybassfan]

I know you can’t believe anything Cal says but if all 6 do leave, plus Wallace, and then and a couple out of Livingston, Collins, Thiero, Onyenso transfer, that’s what this is.

The narrative is get in and get out asap. If you aren’t a one and done lottery pick, go anyway because that’s what you thought. For every WCS and IQ you have a dozen who have gone the first route.

The sad part is I think Cal is going to push several of these guys out the door. Then the narrative next year will be:

“We’re young”
“it’s a process”
“These kids think they poop ice cream.”

Someone said after the loss today, I got 5 words for you:
Wagner, Edwards, Dillingham, Bradshaw, shepherd.

I said I’ve got about 50 words for you:

Wall
Cousins
Bledsoe
Orton
Patterson
Knight
Young
Noel
Goodwin
Randle
Darkari
Harrison(s)
Booker
Lyles
Cauley-Stein
Willis
Hawkins
Towns
Ulis
Skal
Murray
Briscoe
Gabriel
Bam
Fox
Monk
Diallo
Vanderbilt
Shai
Knox
Keldon
Herro
PJ
Richards
Quickley
Maxey
Boston
Clarke
Jackson
TyTy
Sharpe

0 titles.

So pardon me for tempering my expectations for next season.
It’s always, next year, next year, next year. The common denominator is Cal.

1998 to 2012 was 14 years.
2012 to 2024 (at least) is coming up on about the same length of time.

This is not kentucky basketball. This is a sad reality.

58 -78 was 20 years. 78 to 96 was 18 years. So using your own technique for cherry picking stats, we’re doing above average.sounds just like Kentucky basketball if you look at it your way.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

58 -78 was 20 years. 78 to 96 was 18 years. So using your own technique for cherry picking stats, we’re doing above average.sounds just like Kentucky basketball if you look at it your way.

UK's historic percentages were 8 titles in their first 73 years of existence, or one title every 9.1 years.

Cal hasn't won a title in 11 years. We're due on a historic level.

 

[kybassfan]

UK's historic percentages were 8 titles in their first 73 years of existence, or one title every 9.1 years.

Cal hasn't won a title in 11 years. We're due on a historic level.

Against absolute crap statistics. If you want to play that game, then compare avg to avg. Cal has been here, what, 14years? So he has an average of 7 years between titles. So there, you have a crap to crap comparison. Bottom line is this. Things ain’t great, but they aren’t that bad. Conditions of competition are horrific with the abominations of NIL and the portal. The game you think you knew is dead now. Rotting in the ground. This is a completely new set of rules. Maybe it gets better. Maybe a WHOLE lot worse. Welcome to semipro college basketball.

 

[Son_Of_Saul]

Against absolute crap statistics. If you want to play that game, then compare avg to avg. Cal has been here, what, 14years? So he has an average of 7 years between titles. So there, you have a crap to crap comparison. Bottom line is this. Things ain’t great, but they aren’t that bad. Conditions of competition are horrific with the abominations of NIL and the portal. The game you think you knew is dead now. Rotting in the ground. This is a completely new set of rules. Maybe it gets better. Maybe a WHOLE lot worse. Welcome to semipro college basketball.

Nah, he hasn't won a second title, so he's batting 1/13 right now, which is lower than the historic norm.

Your post reeks of deflection. "Things aren't that bad right now?" Compared to who? Tennessee's historic levels?

Thank goodness people like you haven't set the standard for Kentucky basketball, because we'd be Indiana right now if we followed your trash level of expectation.

 

[natchezrule]

58 -78 was 20 years. 78 to 96 was 18 years. So using your own technique for cherry picking stats, we’re doing above average.sounds just like Kentucky basketball if you look at it your way.

This is suck ball not UK ball

 

[kybassfan]

Nah, he hasn't won a second title, so he's batting 1/13 right now, which is lower than the historic norm.

Your post reeks of deflection. "Things aren't that bad right now?" Compared to who? Tennessee's historic levels?

Thank goodness people like you haven't set the standard for Kentucky basketball, because we'd be Indiana right now if we followed your trash level of expectation.

Again you evade with crap stats put 14 years end to end, a championship in the middle and you get and average of 7 years. Sorry. Crap stats suck. Feed me crap that’s what you get back.

Why you keep living in the past? That game is dead now. This is the NIL age. This is when players make their best deal. Crying about the past doesn’t help. Want better players, pony up. You have to buy them now. Want them to be loyal?? Buy it by paying 100 grand for photo. Don’t buy clothes or food from any business that doesn’t make a substantial contribution to Cats NIL. Old basketball is dead. Over. Now pay as you go.

 

[kybassfan]

This is suck ball not UK ball

As I told Saul, this is semiprofessional college basketball. The UK ball you remember is gone. Died with NIL. Welcome to our new semipro team.

And by the way, this is how it’s been since 1958. When exactly is it you think UK was played.? Just curious

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

Again you evade with crap stats put 14 years end to end, a championship in the middle and you get and average of 7 years. Sorry. Crap stats suck. Feed me crap that’s what you get back.

Why you keep living in the past? That game is dead now. This is the NIL age. This is when players make their best deal. Crying about the past doesn’t help. Want better players, pony up. You have to buy them now. Want them to be loyal?? Buy it by paying 100 grand for photo. Don’t buy clothes or food from any business that doesn’t make a substantial contribution to Cats NIL. Old basketball is dead. Over. Now pay as you go.

You accuse Saul of living in the past yet you continue to cite a championship that’s over a decade old.

Hello pot, meet kettle.

 

[Fox2monk]

You accuse Saul of living in the past yet you continue to cite a championship that’s over a decade old.

Hello pot, meet kettle.

Bass fan is back with the same ole tired arguments.