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State of 2025 Recruiting

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Although I don't expect the first 2025 commitment for a while, I will go ahead and start this new thread now. I see that we are discussing 2025 prospects on the 2024 thread, so we need a 2025 thread to accommodate the growing volume of 2025 discussions.

Here are instate 2025 prospects already reported to hold UK offers. All four are being recruited by Coach Marrow although Coach Coen has also gotten involved with Boley.

Cutter Boley, QB, LCA, Lexington
Brock Driver, RB, Boyle Co. hs, Danville
Montavin Quisenberry, ATH, Boyle Co. hs, Danville
Makhi Smith, ATH, Woodford Co. hs, Versailles

Boley is the big headliner here, although Driver is also a nice looking prospect.

Here are some 2025 out of state prospects reported to hold UK offers. This is not intended to be an all inclusive list, and I am not predicting where any of these players will actually sign two winters from now.

Jon Adair, OL, Nashville, TN
Sam Afari, DB, W. Chester, OH (Alex's brother)
John Baker, WR, Detroit, MI
Wyatt Becker, QB, Chatsworth, CA
Preston Bowman, WR, Pickerington, OH
Kole Briehler, DL, Princeton, NJ
Kelan Butler, LB, Jefferson, GA
Brandon Caesar, DL, Cleveland, OH
Marquise Davis, RB, Cleveland, OH
Alonzo Esparza, QB, Chatsworth, CA
Jakaleb Faulk, LB, Highland Home, AL
Zy'Aire Fletcher, LB, Springfield, OH
Noah Francis, DB, Bradenton, FL
Ryan Ghea, TE, Alpharetta, GA
Luka Gilbert, LB/TE, W. Chester, OH
Chauncey Gooden, OL, Nashville, TN
Bowen Gossett, OL, Ironton, OH
Tarrion Grant, DB, Murfreesboro, TN
Rafael Greene, OL, Cincinnati, OH
Caleb Harris, OL, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Jackson Heims, LB, Springfield, OH
Justin Hill, LB, Cincinnati, OH
Eugene Hilton, WR, Zionsville, IN
Bo Jackson, ATH, Cleveland, OH
Naim Jackson, DL, Cincinnati, OH
Sandale Jackson, OL, Cleveland, OH
Napoleon Jemison, LB, Toledo, OH
CJ Jimcoily, ATH, Nashville, TN
Zion Johnson, RB, Covington, GA
Peyton Joseph, OL, Ft. Valley, GA
Tucker Kattus, OL, Cincinnati, OH (Josh's brother)
Robert Lee, DB, Kissimmee, FL
Shiren Mabry, ATH, Columbus, OH
Ezekiel Marcelin, DB, Miami, FL
Dante McClellan, ATH, Canton, OH
London Merritt, LB, Atlanta, GA
Ryan Montgomery, QB, Findlay, OH
Kamauryn Morgan, DL, Red Oak, TX
Paul Nelson, LB, Cincinnati, OH
Eli Owens, LB, Alcoa, TN
Emile Picarella, QB, Madison, MS
Caden Piening, LB, Cincinnati, OH
Quincy Porter, ATH, Oradell, NJ
Ethan Pritchard, LB, Sanford, FL
Kendarius Reddick, ATH, Thomasville, GA
Martin Rhyne, LB, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Anthony Sacca, LB, Philadelphia, PA
Stone Saunders, QB, Harrisburg, PA
Cashus Shivers, ATH, Detroit, MI
Stephon Shivers, DL, Humboldt, TN
Quinton Simmons, WR, Cincinnati, OH
Kaylib Singleton, DB, Orange Park, FL
Kahlil Stewart, OL/DL, Philadelphia, PA
Taevion Swint, RB, Kissimmee, FL
Michael Taylor, RB, Pickerington, OH
Soloman Thomas, OL, Jacksonville, FL
Ethan Utley, DL, Nashville, TN
Amari Wallace, DB, Miami, FL
Tavion Wallace, DB, Jesup, GA
AC Walters, RB, Montgomery, AL
Brennan Ward, QB, Columbus, OH
Jackson Wiley, ATH, Lewis Center, OH
Amaree Williams, LB, Palm Beach, FL
Emaree Winston, TE, Calhoun, GA
Dylon Worthen, LB, Bradenton, FL
Ameer Yasin, OL, Tallmadge, OH

Let's not worry yet about whether 2025 will be a strong or weak instate recruiting class. We are nearly two full years away from the 2025 signing dates, so it is just too early to pass judgment.

But as a side note, take a good look at the number of prospects coming out of the Cincinnati area (including W. Chester) on this list. It is not difficult to see why Coach Marrow spends more time recruiting in Cincinnati than in Louisville.

No secret that Liam Cohen will be looking at QBs for this class. So, no coincidence that a lot of QBs are on the above list. Cutter Boley is the local favorite, and Coach Coen will probably make a big run at him. But if you are looking for an out of state QB with major cred who is already showing strong interest in UK, look no farther than Ryan Montgomery out of Findlay, OH. The gossip is that Montgomery and Coen have hit it off. I guess we will see.
 
I really like these guys who have brothers already at Kentucky!!

Not an absolute lock, but it has to help if your brother played at Kentucky.
There have been plenty of examples of younger brothers who did not follow their older brothers to a particular college football program. But it has to be an advantage. If you want to recruit Tucker Kattus, it can only help to have Josh already on your team. UK currently has Justice and Jordan Dingle. In our 2024 class, we would love to sign the Smith brothers and the Armstrong brothers. In the 2025 class, we would really like to sign Tucker Kattus and Sam Afari.
 
I cannot remember the kinship of Josh Pascal and his relative who preceded him, but I d/n think they were brothers.

Maybe cousins.
 
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Although I don't expect the first 2025 commitment for a while, I will go ahead and start this new thread now. I see that we are discussing 2025 prospects on the 2024 thread, so we need a 2025 thread to accommodate the growing volume of 2025 discussions.

Here are instate 2025 prospects already reported to hold UK offers. All four are being recruited by Coach Marrow although Coach Coen has also gotten involved with Boley.

Cutter Boley, QB, LCA, Lexington
Brock Driver, RB, Boyle Co. hs, Danville
Montavin Quisenberry, ATH, Boyle Co. hs, Danville
Makhi Smith, ATH, Woodford Co. hs, Versailles

Boley is the big headliner here, although Driver is also a nice looking prospect.

Here are some 2025 out of state prospects reported to hold UK offers. This is not intended to be an all inclusive list, and I am not predicting where any of these players will actually sign two winters from now.

Jon Adair, OL, Nashville, TN
Sam Afari, DB, W. Chester, OH (Alex's brother)
John Baker, WR, Detroit, MI
Wyatt Becker, QB, Chatsworth, CA
Preston Bowman, WR, Pickerington, OH
Kole Briehler, DL, Princeton, NJ
Kelan Butler, LB, Jefferson, GA
Brandon Caesar, DL, Cleveland, OH
Marquise Davis, RB, Cleveland, OH
Alonzo Esparza, QB, Chatsworth, CA
Jakaleb Faulk, LB, Highland Home, AL
Zy'Aire Fletcher, LB, Springfield, OH
Noah Francis, DB, Bradenton, FL
Ryan Ghea, TE, Alpharetta, GA
Luka Gilbert, LB/TE, W. Chester, OH
Chauncey Gooden, OL, Nashville, TN
Bowen Gossett, OL, Ironton, OH
Tarrion Grant, DB, Murfreesboro, TN
Rafael Greene, OL, Cincinnati, OH
Caleb Harris, OL, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Jackson Heims, LB, Springfield, OH
Justin Hill, LB, Cincinnati, OH
Eugene Hilton, WR, Zionsville, IN
Bo Jackson, ATH, Cleveland, OH
Naim Jackson, DL, Cincinnati, OH
Sandale Jackson, OL, Cleveland, OH
Napoleon Jemison, LB, Toledo, OH
CJ Jimcoily, ATH, Nashville, TN
Zion Johnson, RB, Covington, GA
Peyton Joseph, OL, Ft. Valley, GA
Tucker Kattus, OL, Cincinnati, OH (Josh's brother)
Robert Lee, DB, Kissimmee, FL
Shiren Mabry, ATH, Columbus, OH
Ezekiel Marcelin, DB, Miami, FL
Dante McClellan, ATH, Canton, OH
London Merritt, LB, Atlanta, GA
Ryan Montgomery, QB, Findlay, OH
Kamauryn Morgan, DL, Red Oak, TX
Paul Nelson, LB, Cincinnati, OH
Eli Owens, LB, Alcoa, TN
Emile Picarella, QB, Madison, MS
Caden Piening, LB, Cincinnati, OH
Quincy Porter, ATH, Oradell, NJ
Ethan Pritchard, LB, Sanford, FL
Kendarius Reddick, ATH, Thomasville, GA
Martin Rhyne, LB, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Anthony Sacca, LB, Philadelphia, PA
Stone Saunders, QB, Harrisburg, PA
Cashus Shivers, ATH, Detroit, MI
Stephon Shivers, DL, Humboldt, TN
Quinton Simmons, WR, Cincinnati, OH
Kaylib Singleton, DB, Orange Park, FL
Kahlil Stewart, OL/DL, Philadelphia, PA
Taevion Swint, RB, Kissimmee, FL
Michael Taylor, RB, Pickerington, OH
Soloman Thomas, OL, Jacksonville, FL
Ethan Utley, DL, Nashville, TN
Amari Wallace, DB, Miami, FL
Tavion Wallace, DB, Jesup, GA
AC Walters, RB, Montgomery, AL
Brennan Ward, QB, Columbus, OH
Jackson Wiley, ATH, Lewis Center, OH
Amaree Williams, LB, Palm Beach, FL
Emaree Winston, TE, Calhoun, GA
Dylon Worthen, LB, Bradenton, FL
Ameer Yasin, OL, Tallmadge, OH

Let's not worry yet about whether 2025 will be a strong or weak instate recruiting class. We are nearly two full years away from the 2025 signing dates, so it is just too early to pass judgment.

But as a side note, take a good look at the number of prospects coming out of the Cincinnati area (including W. Chester) on this list. It is not difficult to see why Coach Marrow spends more time recruiting in Cincinnati than in Louisville.

No secret that Liam Cohen will be looking at QBs for this class. So, no coincidence that a lot of QBs are on the above list. Cutter Boley is the local favorite, and Coach Coen will probably make a big run at him. But if you are looking for an out of state QB with major cred who is already showing strong interest in UK, look no farther than Ryan Montgomery out of Findlay, OH. The gossip is that Montgomery and Coen have hit it off. I guess we will see.
Thank you very much Rembrandt 90 for all the information you give I’ll be seeing the Gossett kid from ironton his first game as my home school of wheelersburg plays them first every year I have a grandson that is a 2026 playing wr and probably starting I’ll be taking him to Kentuckys camp again this year
 
Thank you very much Rembrandt 90 for all the information you give I’ll be seeing the Gossett kid from ironton his first game as my home school of wheelersburg plays them first every year I have a grandson that is a 2026 playing wr and probably starting I’ll be taking him to Kentuckys camp again this year
Great to hear! Please report back and share with us what you see. The strength of these recruiting threads comes in the form of contributions from fans like you.
 
I really like these guys who have brothers already at Kentucky!!

Not an absolute lock, but it has to help if your brother played at Kentucky.
Ryan Montgomery's big brother Luke is an offensive lineman for OH St. Let's hope that relationship doesn't steer Ryan away from UK. The relationship that is developing between Ryan and Coach Coen is very encouraging. Ryan just visited UK and is scheduled to return to Lexington again in the spring. But we are still 2 years away from the dates when the 2025 class will sign, and that is a lifetime in recruiting.
 
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Ryan Montgomery's big brother Luke is an offensive lineman for OH St. Let's hope that relationship doesn't steer Ryan away from UK. The relationship that is developing between Ryan and Coach Coen is very encouraging. Ryan just visited UK and is scheduled to return to Lexington again in the spring. But we are still 2 years away from the dates when the 2025 class will sign, and that is a lifetime in recruiting.

Rembrandt,
With Coen "back home", has the relationship Scag developed with the QB O'neill from Indy cooled somewhat? I see where Colorado has entered the mix, and not much has been said about him and UK.
Thanks.
 
Rembrandt,
With Coen "back home", has the relationship Scag developed with the QB O'neill from Indy cooled somewhat? I see where Colorado has entered the mix, and not much has been said about him and UK.
Thanks.
Not Rembrandt but thought I saw a comment from O'Neill this week that stated UK was still very much in the mix for him. I'm wondering too about '25 QB Saunders who supposedly has a long association with Coen?
 
Not Rembrandt but thought I saw a comment from O'Neill this week that stated UK was still very much in the mix for him. I'm wondering too about '25 QB Saunders who supposedly has a long association with Coen?

Thanks mrschwump, I guess I missed that.
 
Rembrandt,
With Coen "back home", has the relationship Scag developed with the QB O'neill from Indy cooled somewhat? I see where Colorado has entered the mix, and not much has been said about him and UK.
Thanks.
This is more of a question for the 2024 recruiting thread, of course. Coach Coen is recruiting a lot of 2024 QBs, apparently including Maealiuaki Smith, Air Noland, KJ Jackson, and Braden Graham. Danny O'Neil was a Scangarello recruit. So far, I haven't seen any public evidence that Coen is recruiting O'Neil. There is a potentially important caveat. O'Neil plays for Cathedral hs in Indy, the same hs that produced recent UK signee Kendrick Gilbert. Establishing a more durable recruiting relationship with the coaching staff at Cathedral hs is directly in our program's interests. More and more, Coach Marrow's recruiting philosophy has gravitated toward developing pipeline relationships with feeder schools like Fredrick Douglass, Boyle Co., North Hardin, Bowling Green, Winton Woods, Moeller, Lakota West, Springfield, Cass Tech, and so forth. That has worked out well. Coach White is trying to do the same at Cheshire Academy. Adding Cathedral hs to this group of pipeline schools would be a big get for our coaches. So Marrow might continue to recruit O'Neil. But I haven't seen any evidence of that yet.

O'Neil's recent statement that UK is still in the mix from his point of view doesn't necessarily tell us anything about where O'Neil currently sits on Coach Coen's priority list.

BTW, I don't know if I have ever seen a better name for a QB than Air Noland.
 
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Prior experience suggests this one will easily surpass 30 pages before we are done. Should be fun.
The list, including recruits from TX and CA, along with A LOT of Atlantic Coast players, seems to be a wider net than previously cast by the staff.

Maybe our increased visibility has allowed it?
 
Rembrandt do you know if there's been efforts made to recruit the metro St. Louis area, there's considerable talent in the area?
 
The list, including recruits from TX and CA, along with A LOT of Atlantic Coast players, seems to be a wider net than previously cast by the staff.

Maybe our increased visibility has allowed it?
An increased recruiting budget has allowed it. Barnhart made that happen. Coach White recruits the eastern seabord and PA. Jay Boulware and Mike Stoops are connected in TX. Coach Coen is connected in CA.
 
Rembrandt do you know if there's been efforts made to recruit the metro St. Louis area, there's considerable talent in the area?
Coach Buffano and Coach Marrow have been recruiting the St. Louis area. I know of at least 3 UK offers in the St. Louis area for the 2024 class. I have not found evidence yet of any UK offers in the St. Louis area in the 2025 class, but it is early.
 
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Josh Edwards put in a crystal ball for Boley to UK. Still early but UK appears to atleast have closed the gap. Crystal balls a lot of the time are just guesses but things at least seem to be trending better.
 
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Josh Edwards put in a crystal ball for Boley to UK. Still early but UK appears to atleast have closed the gap. Crystal balls a lot of the time are just guesses but things at least seem to be trending better.
To be fair, Josh Edwards also predicted Jacob Lacey, Trey Cornist, Cameron Calhoun, Danny O'Neil, Cristian Conyer, Adrian Griffin, Micah Carter, and Wm. Spencer would commit to UK. When it comes to UK, Josh is the least accurate predictor because he is a self-styled "UK insider" who gets out a little too far over his skis, so to speak. I have been burned several times by taking Josh's predictions seriously. I would like for Cutter Boley to become a Wildcat. Maybe he will, or not. But it will take more than a CB prediction from Josh to raise my hopes, especially with Boley still being publicly classified in 2025. And I know there is a lot of speculation now about Boley and UK on the pay sites, which probably influenced Josh's prediction. If we take this stuff too seriously, it leads to disappointment too often. Look at it this way. Unless Boley himself has made a final decision, then it would be impossible for anyone else to know what he will do. Boley is still visiting other campuses. Here's hoping Coach Coen gets his man and good news eventually comes.
 
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To be fair, Josh Edwards also predicted Jacob Lacey, Trey Cornist, Cameron Calhoun, Danny O'Neil, Cristian Conyer, Adrian Griffin, Micah Carter, and Wm. Spencer would commit to UK. When it comes to UK, Josh is the least accurate predictor because he is a self-styled "UK insider" who gets out a little too far over his skis, so to speak. I have been burned several times by taking Josh's predictions seriously. I would like for Cutter Boley to become a Wildcat. Maybe he will, or not. But it will take more than a CB prediction from Josh to raise my hopes, especially with Boley still being publicly classified in 2025. And I know there is a lot of speculation now about Boley and UK on the pay sites, which probably influenced Josh's prediction. If we take this stuff too seriously, it leads to disappointment too often. Look at it this way. Unless Boley himself has made a final decision, then it would be impossible for anyone else to know what he will do. Boley is still visiting other campuses. Here's hoping Coach Coen gets his man and good news eventually comes.
I said most of the time their just guesses. I will add his pick for the twins is almost 2 years old. I don't put much stock in Edwards. Just passing on something I seen

I will add. I'm not even sure he's the best or will be the best of the 3 qbs. It seems to be the guy they're currently locked in on
 
I said most of the time their just guesses. I will add his pick for the twins is almost 2 years old. I don't put much stock in Edwards. Just passing on something I seen

I will add. I'm not even sure he's the best or will be the best of the 3 qbs. It seems to be the guy they're currently locked in on

They seem pretty serious about Saunders as well...just sayin'
 
I will add. I'm not even sure he's the best or will be the best of the 3 qbs. It seems to be the guy they're currently locked in on
Interesting point there for sure about the comparisons. Boley is obviously an intelligent young man. He is the tallest of the three, and he has lots of arm talent. It has been observed many times that he has touch and accuracy on his deep passes and can make all the throws. Boley has not played against the same kind of hs competition that Montgomery and Saunders have faced, although competition in the Lexington area is improving. I don't pay a lot of attention to the player rankings, but Boley already has a very impressive offer sheet. Offer sheets speak volumes. Aside from talent, the main reason Boley is a primary target for UK is that he is an instate prospect. In other words, Boley is inclined to understand the UK football story, and UK fans would be inclined to get excited if he became a Cat. Whereas most UK fans still know next to nothing at this point about Saunders and Montgomery. Boley has said that he likes Coach Coen. So Coen is making a push for him, and I hope Boley commits to us. Whether he should reclassify is a different question. The short answer is that it would fit an obvious need for UK. The longer answer is that some players are ready for that and others aren't. Who knows? But I also get the sense that Coen has been impressed with Saunders. So there are some caveats.
 
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They seem pretty serious about Saunders as well...just sayin'
Yes and they're serious about Montgomery also. They think there is a good chance Boley moves to 24. His decision should come long b4 the other two. Reports are that he will take his officials this summer and will make a decision before school starts. Not saying where he will go but that is their pitcg
 
Yes, exactly. Reports are that he will take his officials this summer and will make a decision before school starts.
Yes, still taking his visits. This is how we know he hasn't decided yet, and that is why I believe Josh Edwards has gotten out over his skis once again with the early CB pick. But at the end of the day, Coach Coen's return has gotten UK squarely back into the competition and might make the difference.
 
Remember, Boley was also originally 24, reclassed to 25 cause of 'covid', so him jumping.back into 24 isn't that great a stretch.
 
Remember, Boley was also originally 24, reclassed to 25 cause of 'covid', so him jumping.back into 24 isn't that great a stretch.
Either he will reclassify, or he won't. It's a big decision for anyone who does it. Each case is different. Boley is physically ready for sure and, as you say, it isn't such a great stretch for the reason you gave. I am more interested in-

Whether Boley reclassifying would increase or decrease UK's chances to sign him. (My guess, it might increase UK's chances, as long as Boley sees the timing as being related to an opportunity created by Leary's graduation.)

How Boley hypothetically enrolling in 2024 would impact UK's 2024 and 2025 recruiting classes overall. (My guess, it would have a big positive impact in 2024 as long as he commits to UK fairly early. For that reason, it could impact distribution of scholarships to certain offensive positions in 2025.)

Who will win the backup QB job in 2023?
 
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Either he will reclassify, or he won't. It's a big decision for anyone who does it. Each case is different. Boley is physically ready for sure and, as you say, it isn't such a great stretch for the reason you gave. I am more interested in-

Whether Boley reclassifying would increase or decrease UK's chances to sign him. (My guess, it might increase UK's chances, as long as Boley sees the timing as being related to an opportunity created by Leary's graduation.)

How Boley hypothetically enrolling in 2024 would impact UK's 2024 and 2025 recruiting classes overall. (My guess, it would have a big positive impact in 2024 as long as he commits to UK fairly early. For that reason, it could impact distribution of scholarships to certain offensive positions in 2025.)

Who will win the backup QB job in 2023?
I read that whether Boley is the 24 qb recuit or not, they will be going to the portal for the 24 starter. Possibly even get them now as the backup to Leary during this portal
 
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I read that whether Boley is the 24 qb recuit or not, they will be going to the portal for the 24 starter. Possibly even get them now as the backup to Leary during this portal
It would make sense to take a transfer QB with multiple years of eligibility this month so that he could back up Leary next fall and compete for the starting job in 2024. The problem is finding and convincing the right available QB.
 
It would make sense to take a transfer QB with multiple years of eligibility this month so that he could back up Leary next fall and compete for the starting job in 2024. The problem is finding and convincing the right available QB.
Correct. If a guy like Carson Beck loses the starting job it could happen. Fingers crossed. 😆
 
Hmm. Not my decision to make....but I'd prefer we land a commit of reclassed Boley this summer in the '24 class, instead of a portal guy for '23 season who likely hasn't played much if at all.

We've all watched enough Mark Stoops football to know the prospect of anybody but Leary playing real qb snaps in '23 is less than 1%. So the idea of bringing a portal guy in now to develop for '24 don't hold much water with me.

But, could happen, '24 qb recruiting for us is virtually dead. If we do it hope it doesn't harm all the great '25 qb recruiting that is happening.
 
Hmm. Not my decision to make....but I'd prefer we land a commit of reclassed Boley this summer in the '24 class, instead of a portal guy for '23 season who likely hasn't played much if at all.

We've all watched enough Mark Stoops football to know the prospect of anybody but Leary playing real qb snaps in '23 is less than 1%. So the idea of bringing a portal guy in now to develop for '24 don't hold much water with me.

But, could happen, '24 qb recruiting for us is virtually dead. If we do it hope it doesn't harm all the great '25 qb recruiting that is happening.
From what I read if Boley reclasses and is the qb recruit for 24 they don't plan on his starting as a true freshman. They want to have a qb for 24 so that Boley or whoever can learn and grow
 
Hmm. Not my decision to make....but I'd prefer we land a commit of reclassed Boley this summer in the '24 class, instead of a portal guy for '23 season who likely hasn't played much if at all.
Why are these two alternatives mutually exclusive? I don't see that.

Leary starts in 2023. Hypothetically, an inbound transfer backs up Leary and competes for the 2024 starting job. Hypothetically, Boley signs with UK, understudies the inbound transfer in 2024 (maybe as a RS), and starts for the following 3-4 years.

Sounds like you are assuming Boley would not come to UK without being guaranteed the immediate starting job. IDK about that. QBs face competition everywhere. Very few QBs start for 3-4 seasons, especially in the SEC. I think the key to Boley's recruitment is his relationship with Coach Coen and his perception of the succcess of our offensive coaching staff. Not a guarantee of immediate playing time (which he won't get at any decent Power 5 program anyway).

As I have said before, I place no significance on the CB pick for UK for Boley by Josh Edwards, who likes to get in the first prediction for prospects recruited by UK but has been wrong too often to be credible. But that doesn't mean Coach Coen won't be successful. There are lots of reasons Boley might end up preferring UK (including Coen), and I can't see why those reasons would fail to be persuasive just because Boley doesn't receive a verbal guarantee to start immediately in September, 2024.
 
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