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So....Will Marques Bolden choose KU because of....

So, player X is highly ranked in high school, gets drafted high, fans say "wow our coach can develop talent" while opposing fans say "he would have succeeded anywhere, your coach didn't develop him".

So, player X is highly ranked in high, goes undrafted/very late in the draft, fans say "it's not our coaches fault, the rankings were off" while opposing fans say "see, your coach can't develop talent.

Rinse. Repeat.

Does anyone find it ironic that most are using both angles in their arguments? In one case, the rankings were off if it makes your coach look better, while it's the coach that can't develop talent (and the rankings are never wrong) if it makes another teams coach look worse. I've never understood this, but it's now common-place in arguments involving fans of every school. Seriously, does anyone else see this?
 
So, player X is highly ranked in high school, gets drafted high, fans say "wow our coach can develop talent" while opposing fans say "he would have succeeded anywhere, your coach didn't develop him".

So, player X is highly ranked in high, goes undrafted/very late in the draft, fans say "it's not our coaches fault, the rankings were off" while opposing fans say "see, your coach can't develop talent.

Rinse. Repeat.

Does anyone find it ironic that most are using both angles in their arguments? In one case, the rankings were off if it makes your coach look better, while it's the coach that can't develop talent (and the rankings are never wrong) if it makes another teams coach look worse. I've never understood this, but it's now common-place in arguments involving fans of every school. Seriously, does anyone else see this?

Nope. You're the only one who notices stupidity and hypocrisy in message board sports arguments because you're smart and everyone else is dumb.
 
With KU here lately, it is kind of a risk to go there if you're an elite big man. Even when Self gets his bigs drafted, they never turn out to be any better than average players at the next level. I know the KU fan will tell us now a guy like Thomas Robinson has always sucked and it was a miracle Self even got the kid drafted in the NBA draft. Never mind the fact KU fans were telling us all that college basketball season Robinson was the better player in college and will be better in the NBA. Self will have trouble for the next few years recruiting elite bigs. When you have a top 5 kid bust as hard as this last kid in the draft, you will have some backlash to deal with. This Bolden kid would play more and most likely start at KU as a freshman, but if he's serious about actually being something in the NBA, I would be looking elsewhere. Th Bill Self offense sucks. Good coach, though. He might choke early every once in a while in the tourney, but he's a decent coach.
 
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**Um, ok...how about that UK should already have Kilyea-Jones, W. Gabriel & Humprhies in the post AT LEAST if not the potential of someone else like even Marcus Lee returning whereas KU will likely only have Bragg (maybe / most likely), the Ole Miss transfer, Coleby & Lucas back in the post?

Could that not be a consideration for Bolden considering to play for KU over UK?!?!?

You all act like someone would be STUPID for considering another school over UK, but there can be very valid reasons particularly when it's getting crowded w/ talent at your same position at a school that you're considering.

Positionless basketball....
 
**How'd he drop in the draft. He went from being regarded No. 1 to being drafted No. 1. And that's having dropped how exactly?!?!?

Yes, he was being projected 3rd 'til just before the draft, BUT one of the two being projected ahead of him was his own teammate, Embiid, who before the season began was being projected between about 8th - 12th in that upcoming Summer's Draft.
taken in context to my original post. all im saying is if a kid is down to UK and ku and picks ku im not gonna sweat it. like you saying the harrisons were bust and you probably don't regret not getting them but they led us to two final fours in a row and 1 game away from an undefeated season. wiggins led ku to a second round loss and a bunch of crickets the whole year. i think self is a real good coach but i dont know if he can do what cal does with oad's or just really young teams. you forget that 2011 final 4 team really only had 2 elite prospects and a bunch of dudes we picked up at a rec league.
 
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