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So, the threats to Higgins were released. ONE was a direct threat and it was for a slap

This is such a non-issue for me. It was 0.03% of our fanbase that even went this far. Name me another fanbase that wouldn't have a similar number. Name me a fanbase that didn't have a handful of fans riot after losing/winning a championship.

Who. Cares.
 
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If Higgins felt threatened by the slap threat then he is just a puffed up gym puss. He needs to take self defense classes if that terrorized him and his family. I don't condone even trying to contact this idiot. But these threats........I will send my grand daughter to protect him..........
 
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You must be a millennial.

Clarify something for me please.

How can "we millennials" get derided for being hyper sensitive and politically correct and also be derided for telling you that this entire thing was overblown and false?

Because it sounds like a really lazy, condescending attempt at an insult that you don't even have an understanding of or meaning for.
 
You must be a millennial.
Funny, I thought the same thing of you. Afraid of strong language and full of guilt for something that was completely made up and media driven. Poor little snowflake.
I'm 49 and have heard much worse at girl's high school basketball games...from the players.
 
Oh, my comments are reasonable. Yours on the other hand sound like a mother trying to defend a kid that just knocked over a liquor store. It wasn't that bad. Nobody was hurt. He didn't know what he was doing. Excuse excuse excuse.

Calls were made. Questionable statements were made. Intellectual property was defaced. All over a game. Those are facts.


no.. your comments are not reasonable. they may have been before the actual "threats" were released. Now, we have learned that Higgins is just a big baby trying to deflect from the WHOLE COUNTRY saying how bad he was that game. Jay fricken Williams said it was horrible.

your sanctimonious attitude towards other fans is hilarious i bet youre also the type who hates himself because youre burdened by white privilege
 
Clarify something for me please.

How can "we millennials" get derided for being hyper sensitive and politically correct and also be derided for telling you that this entire thing was overblown and false?

Because it sounds like a really lazy, condescending attempt at an insult that you don't even have an understanding of or meaning for.


It was over blown and false. We all know that. But what happened has had the reverse effect
Why can't you understand that. It is wrong to take a basketball game so serious that you try to ruin someone's business.

Go after him for the way he officiated all you want, but leave personal life alone.
 
Funny, I thought the same thing of you. Afraid of strong language and full of guilt for something that was completely made up and media driven. Poor little snowflake.
I'm 49 and have heard much worse at girl's high school basketball games...from the players.


Once again you fail to understand my point.
 
no.. your comments are not reasonable. they may have been before the actual "threats" were released. Now, we have learned that Higgins is just a big baby trying to deflect from the WHOLE COUNTRY saying how bad he was that game. Jay fricken Williams said it was horrible.

your sanctimonious attitude towards other fans is hilarious i bet youre also the type who hates himself because youre burdened by white privilege

Actually, you are assuming the investigation is over. We haven't seen anything regarding the conclusion of the investigation or anything of that nature. All we have is something from one line of evidence with little to no information otherwise. Till that happens, I'm hoping that the folks that made these calls are found, caught and punished harshly. If the authorities determine nothing happened, then good. At the present, it still seems to be an active investigation.
 
Actually, you are assuming the investigation is over. We haven't seen anything regarding the conclusion of the investigation or anything of that nature. All we have is something from one line of evidence with little to no information otherwise. Till that happens, I'm hoping that the folks that made these calls are found, caught and punished harshly. If the authorities determine nothing happened, then good. At the present, it still seems to be an active investigation.

In all seriousness, the language I read on this subject is pretty much the same kind of statement when I was told by the local police department that they were "investigating" the theft of my racing bike. I think, as far as criminal action goes, that this is now a non-issue.
 
Actually, you are assuming the investigation is over. We haven't seen anything regarding the conclusion of the investigation or anything of that nature. All we have is something from one line of evidence with little to no information otherwise. Till that happens, I'm hoping that the folks that made these calls are found, caught and punished harshly. If the authorities determine nothing happened, then good. At the present, it still seems to be an active investigation.

How about we make a bet? If any charges are filed I will impose a one-month self-ban. If no charges are filed in say, two months, you do the same?
 
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Actually, you are assuming the investigation is over. We haven't seen anything regarding the conclusion of the investigation or anything of that nature. All we have is something from one line of evidence with little to no information otherwise. Till that happens, I'm hoping that the folks that made these calls are found, caught and punished harshly. If the authorities determine nothing happened, then good. At the present, it still seems to be an active investigation.

So you're saying that the investigation hasn't released anything sayin death threats were made, but the people should be punished harshly. Lol, you are a piece of work.
 
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How about we make a bet? If any charges are filed I will impose a one-month self-ban. If no charges are filed in say, two months, you do the same?
If there actually was a legitimate death threat made then charges already would've been filed. There's no way that nut job would ever accept that bet and follow through with it when he loses lol.
 
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It was over blown and false. We all know that. But what happened has had the reverse effect
Why can't you understand that. It is wrong to take a basketball game so serious that you try to ruin someone's business.

Go after him for the way he officiated all you want, but leave personal life alone.

I just don't see anyone arguing otherwise. All anyone seems to be saying is that the death threat reports were fallacious and should result in Higgins being held accountable for his recklessness the same way people who actually made those calls should have been.

I don't think anyone thinks calling and harassing a man personally is something a reasonable, well-adjusted human being should do. We're just saying it's not criminal.
 
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None of the things I heard from those messages should get anybody put in jail.

Having said that, the people that called his roofing business and left the messages are absolute freaking morons and shouldn't really be defended by others.
 
You people are defending this behavior are what gives UK fans a bad name. I don't give a damn whether he was threatened or not. People were posting fictitious ratings on the mans buisness and wishing he would fall off a house. That is not wishing harm to him. Again over a basketball game? Seriously? Yes take a look at London and tell me there is not more serious problems to worry about than whether we win a damn basketball game.

As loud as you and a few others are barking, one might think you are the guilty ones. Guilty dog barks loudest..

1. show one post that is defending the calls
2.the ones barking the loudest are you and Kybass...
 
I just don't see anyone arguing otherwise. All anyone seems to be saying is that the death threat reports were fallacious and should result in Higgins being held accountable for his recklessness the same way people who actually made those calls should have been.

I don't think anyone thinks calling and harassing a man personally is something a reasonable, well-adjusted human being should do. We're just saying it's not criminal.


Agreed. Maybe you and I were talking over each other.
 
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None of the things I heard from those messages should get anybody put in jail.

Having said that, the people that called his roofing business and left the messages are absolute freaking morons and shouldn't really be defended by others.


Rack
 
Agreed. Maybe you and I were talking over each other.
You people are defending this behavior . Everything is not about how you want it, or think it should be.

Stop defending their actions.
NOW suddenly, you don't see anyone arguing otherwise....
Were you just blindly going off kybass's lead and felt it was "okay" to accuse posters in this thread of making the calls?
hmmmm,
I'm done with you and bass...you both have shown to be hypocrites...by accusing posters of defending then implying posters in this threads made the calls...can't you see the irony?
 
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NOW suddenly, you don't see anyone arguing otherwise....
Were you just blindly going off kybass's lead and felt it was "okay" to accuse posters in this thread of making the calls?
hmmmm,
I'm done with you and bass...you both have shown to be hypocrites...by accusing posters of defending then implying posters in this threads made the calls...can't you see the irony?

No, the hypocrite is YOU!!! Nobody has accused anyone of anything. What we have done is say that if guilty, the callers should be punished to the FULLEST extent of the law, jail time, fines, whatever. That makes YOU the hypocrite. You have wailed at the top of your lungs that everyone should just drop it but there is an investigation in progress. You have made very effort to get folks to look the other way.

Done with me? Good. Why should I or anyone else have any concern over someone that tries to ignore an active investigation or a topic that is clearly in the news.

If anyone has accused you of anything, you INVITE such by protesting and acting like a wounded duck over this. You look and act just like you are claiming that Higgins has done. What's that say about you?
 
In all seriousness, the language I read on this subject is pretty much the same kind of statement when I was told by the local police department that they were "investigating" the theft of my racing bike. I think, as far as criminal action goes, that this is now a non-issue.

You could be right. In spite of all the jibberish to the contrary, I've never stated that anyone is, in fact, guilty. That said, I've not seen anything about the investigation being dropped and the FCC is notoriously slow. There could still be findings. I will say this and I've said it from the beginning, if anyone is found guilty, I want them punished as harshly as the law permits. This is not the NC fan base that is happy to look the other direction. If we have filth doing this sort of thing, they need to be singled out.
 
NOW suddenly, you don't see anyone arguing otherwise....
Were you just blindly going off kybass's lead and felt it was "okay" to accuse posters in this thread of making the calls?
hmmmm,
I'm done with you and bass...you both have shown to be hypocrites...by accusing posters of defending then implying posters in this threads made the calls...can't you see the irony?


That reflection in the mirror you see is the only hypocrite on here.
 
Actually, you are assuming the investigation is over. We haven't seen anything regarding the conclusion of the investigation or anything of that nature. All we have is something from one line of evidence with little to no information otherwise. Till that happens, I'm hoping that the folks that made these calls are found, caught and punished harshly. If the authorities determine nothing happened, then good. At the present, it still seems to be an active investigation.

No, the hypocrite is YOU!!! Nobody has accused anyone of anything. What we have done is say that if guilty, the callers should be punished to the FULLEST extent of the law, jail time, fines, whatever. That makes YOU the hypocrite. You have wailed at the top of your lungs that everyone should just drop it but there is an investigation in progress. You have made very effort to get folks to look the other way.

Done with me? Good. Why should I or anyone else have any concern over someone that tries to ignore an active investigation or a topic that is clearly in the news.

If anyone has accused you of anything, you INVITE such by protesting and acting like a wounded duck over this. You look and act just like you are claiming that Higgins has done. What's that say about you?


Lol. Not even a few hours later. You're a walking contradiction.
 
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In all seriousness, the language I read on this subject is pretty much the same kind of statement when I was told by the local police department that they were "investigating" the theft of my racing bike. I think, as far as criminal action goes, that this is now a non-issue.

 
Once again you fail to understand my point.
Glad I'm in the majority on that. If you even have a point.
More likely you're just a douchebag troll. Either way you are now boring and not worthy of my time. Good luck with your snowflake insanity.
 
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You people are defending this behavior are what gives UK fans a bad name. I don't give a damn whether he was threatened or not. People were posting fictitious ratings on the mans buisness and wishing he would fall off a house. That is not wishing harm to him. Again over a basketball game? Seriously? Yes take a look at London and tell me there is not more serious problems to worry about than whether we win a damn basketball game.

As loud as you and a few others are barking, one might think you are the guilty ones. Guilty dog barks loudest.

Do I like him, hell no. Do I think he is biased against UK, hell yes. Do I wish harm to the man or his family, hell no. You mull heads need to get a life. Everything is not about how you want it, or think it should be.

Did you just bring up London?

So far we've got the children and a terrorist attack as justification when our morality patrol jumps the fense and labels people by crimes not committed.

Damn boys, bringin out the Pitino playbook. How dare we discuss this 6 months after the 10 year anniversary of a terrorist attack.

I wonder what some of those relatives of the dead think about your straw Man to argue a point about a Facebook rating being cruel.

Don't call anyone a snowflake, snowflake.
 
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Did you just bring up London?

So far we've got the children and a terrorist attack as justification when our morality patrol jumps the fense and labels people by crimes not committed.

Damn boys, bringin out the Pitino playbook. How dare we discuss this 6 months after the 10 year anniversary of a terrorist attack.

I wonder what some of those relatives of the dead think about your straw Man to argue a point about a Facebook rating being cruel.

Don't call anyone a snowflake, snowflake.


No. If you had read every post , you would have noticed someone else brought up London, I only responded to it.
 
Glad I'm in the majority on that. If you even have a point.
More likely you're just a douchebag troll. Either way you are now boring and not worthy of my time. Good luck with your snowflake insanity.

Typical response from a sunshine pumper, can't have a debate so label someone as a troll. I think my join date and post count makes you wrong.
 
Why does this look bad on all UK fans? I never said anything about him and I assume by your self righteous attitude you didn't either. Why does it look bad on those who didn't say anything about the man? Saying those were not death threats is not the same as condoning what was said. They were awful things to say to anyone and I wouldn't want my daughters to hear someone say those things about me but that don't make them death threats which was what the media was reporting....that he received thousands of calls and death threats.

Well first of all, I am not being self righteous about anything. But I'm also not being a hypocrite and saying what those fans did was justified, because oh it wasn't this or that. Yes, the part about death threats was blown waaaay out of proportion, but the other things were just plain wrong. I feel bad for our fans who are put in a bad light when they don't deserve it. And, no, I didn't say anything about him....but not because I'm self righteous. Don't make assumptions about me for not liking that type of behavior.
 
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Lol. Not even a few hours later. You're a walking contradiction.

Glad I'm in the majority on that. If you even have a point.
More likely you're just a douchebag troll. Either way you are now boring and not worthy of my time. Good luck with your snowflake insanity.

Did you just bring up London?

So far we've got the children and a terrorist attack as justification when our morality patrol jumps the fense and labels people by crimes not committed.

Damn boys, bringin out the Pitino playbook. How dare we discuss this 6 months after the 10 year anniversary of a terrorist attack.

I wonder what some of those relatives of the dead think about your straw Man to argue a point about a Facebook rating being cruel.

Don't call anyone a snowflake, snowflake.
Ahhhhhhhh, "Ignore" is so nice.
I have zero respect for either one, and now look forward to never having to read their sanctimonious hypocrisy again.
 
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It was over blown and false. We all know that. But what happened has had the reverse effect
Why can't you understand that. It is wrong to take a basketball game so serious that you try to ruin someone's business.

Go after him for the way he officiated all you want, but leave personal life alone.

Your first mistake is believing we all must believe this universal opinion you have that its just "a basketball game"
It's been many games now. And its been games decided for historical achievement. The fans have a place, I'm not embarrassed at all. I think having seen the evidence, it was handled beautifully and might just keep him away from UK games. The media hates us, some of you need to let that go. No matter what we do. If you dont like that you might want to find another team.

Cal stayed quiet for days. He wanted fans to react. Even his statement was lame. Surely some of you that feel embarrassed (lol) realize that at least.

There were no threats, and his Facebook page is not private, so you're wrong there too.

F with the bull you get the horns. Only a puss would feel embarrassed as a UK fan about this. Or one of those "good guy" fans who get off on feeling superior about something as crazy as fandom.
 
Your first mistake is believing we all must believe this universal opinion you have that its just "a basketball game"
It's been many games now. And its been games decided for historical achievement. The fans have a place, I'm not embarrassed at all. I think having seen the evidence, it was handled beautifully and might just keep him away from UK games. The media hates us, some of you need to let that go. No matter what we do. If you dont like that you might want to find another team.

Cal stayed quiet for days. He wanted fans to react. Even his statement was lame. Surely some of you that feel embarrassed (lol) realize that at least.

There were no threats, and his Facebook page is not private, so you're wrong there too.

F with the bull you get the horns. Only a puss would feel embarrassed as a UK fan about this. Or one of those "good guy" fans who get off on feeling superior about something as crazy as fandom.


You are entitled to your opinion. I just don't think it is a good human trait to get so upset with any type of sporting event that you lose control of your emotions that you personally harass someone.

Was this over blown, yes. I just wish people would show more control. As far as Higgins, I hope he never officiated another game. But, I do not want to see him lose his business.
 
You could be right. In spite of all the jibberish to the contrary, I've never stated that anyone is, in fact, guilty. That said, I've not seen anything about the investigation being dropped and the FCC is notoriously slow. There could still be findings. I will say this and I've said it from the beginning, if anyone is found guilty, I want them punished as harshly as the law permits. This is not the NC fan base that is happy to look the other direction. If we have filth doing this sort of thing, they need to be singled out.
I wish someone would let this clown know the FCC isn't investigating phone calls. The FBI isn't involved at all and the one police authority that was involved has ended their investigation with no prosecutions. In other words, no real crimes were committed. What we have we these two guys are their personal desire for retribution which is little different than the callers they are complaining about.
 
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