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Shaedon Sharpe eligible for the 2022 NBA draft

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Hey for all we know, this could still be the case. It might even be the "likely" case.

It sucks, but we just have to wait this one out, and it might be months.

I like our team now though, and I don't think Sharpe is make-or-break for us getting a Final 4.
He definitely is not (essential for a final 4). Pretty cohesive unit we have. If Sharpe doesn't play that's a pretty good indicator that he's coming back.
 
these are legit the two poitns I was making all thread.
I don’t disagree with any of this at all and I’m annoyed as hell over this development. If he’s gone he should ply this year IMO. I just don’t buy the other narratives being floated that this was all planned in advance by Cal that’s just kooky.
 
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If Cal thought the fans wanted to see Shaedon at the end of the UT game, this come Tuesday at home he’s going to really hear how much the fans what to see him play.

If Shaedon doesn’t play that’s disgusting. Come here, get a Porsche, train/workout, deuces off to the NBA, didn’t even have to play. If Shaedon doesn’t play then every Cal hater that’s ever said something nasty about Cal will be vindicated. UK will literally have been a luxury basketball camp Shaedon was paid to attend for 5 months.

I agree. At this point it best case is he plays this season and we make a run in March...hell if he is as good as some think then maybe he is the reason we win #9. Worst case is he uses uk and leaves.
 
Last year I wanted Cal gone, I thought his style of basketball doesn’t really work great in modern basketball without the absolute best of the best of players out there to be had.

Then last offseason Cal fired problematic coaches and brought in proven winners, Cal then went after every big fish recruit he could find with a reinvigorated fury that we hadn’t seen in 7-8 years.

I was all the way back on the Cal train, I loved the changes he made, all for the better.

Having a guy use us as a training camp, purposefully keep hidden his draft status and lie and say he plans to play here next year to make sure he gets NIL, and Cal allows it all just to paint this illusion that he “landed” the #1 player. The Cal haters have been saying it for years, this isn’t your ****ing NBA training camp Cal, this team doesn’t exist to coddle your ego or give free rides to guys to pretend to be Kentucky basketball players to boost your status.

I give Sharpe a less than 1% chance at passing on being a top 5ish pick, no one has ever done that under Cal, no one may have ever done that ever in the last 20 years of college basketball at any school.

Now I’m angry at Cal and I’m angry at Sharpe, because the guy knows what his high school credit situation was a year ago, and he knows what day he was born, and he’s known the whole time he was eligible for this draft and he likely lied about it to ensure he received deals for being here, and it’s beyond likely that he lied when he said regardless of draft status his plan is to play a full season at Kentucky next year.

Yeah hard to say where he'd be drafted. He won't be top3, that's for sure. And what GM wants to burn a high pick on a guy they have NO IDEA how good he will be.

Sharpe kind of needs to prove himself a bit.

But at the same time, the freaking NBA is setup so that maybe being drafted 17th by a playoff contending team (IE Denver), is better than being drafted 4th by a team in total rebuild (IE Houston). Sharpe might NOT want to be drafted so high. Honestly, idk why players even want to be top3. Wall, KAT, Cousins spent almost their entire CAREERS on garbage franchises, wasting away.

What a mess.
 
Hey for all we know, this could still be the case. It might even be the "likely" case.

It sucks, but we just have to wait this one out, and it might be months.

I like our team now though, and I don't think Sharpe is make-or-break for us getting a Final 4.
Yes, but isn't it Cal's job to put together as many pieces as possible to ensure we have the best possible chance to win it all?

If Sharpe helps the team, but they don't intend for him to play simply to protect his draft status, that is massively detrimental to the program and warrants job termination. The only thing that might save Cal in such a situation is a Final Four appearance this Spring.
 
Yes, but isn't it Cal's job to put together as many pieces as possible to ensure we have the best possible chance to win it all?

If Sharpe helps the team, but they don't intend for him to play simply to protect his draft status, that is massively detrimental to the program and warrants job termination. The only thing that might save Cal in such a situation is a Final Four appearance this Spring.

Oh 100%.. I'm on the anti-Cal side for this one, a side that I've fought with for years. I'm just saying, I think this team is more than capable of a final4 run, with or without Sharpe.
 
Yeah, I’m sure The Sharpes called Tucker directly to discuss their plans. There is zero chance that kid is coming back. Zero.
If someone can give me the name, of someone in the last 20 years, of a 19 year old player with a chance to be a top 5 pick in the draft, that has came back because he just really really wants to play college basketball, then I’ll believe there’s a chance.

As of right now, I don’t know of one, and I don’t believe there’s a chance, because I love Kentucky basketball to the point I’d commit as a 5 year old, and if I were magically transformed into a 19 year old basketball player in Sharpe’s shoes, I would go to the draft.

So I have a hard time believing Sharpe is going to wait a full year to go to the NBA, to play a college season, and risk injury, risk draft stock falling, the guy doesn’t have to play one second of basketball from now til July and he’s a top 5 pick.
 
"As of today?"

As of yesterday, the kid wasn't draft eligible, according to Tucker and his media pals.

Tucker didn't know any of this, and yet now we're supposed to take his word that he's in the know on what the Sharpe Family plans on doing in 5 months when the league dangles tens of millions of dollars at their son?

That's laughable.
 
"As of today?"

As of yesterday, the kid wasn't draft eligible, according to Tucker and his media pals.

Tucker didn't know any of this, and yet now we're supposed to take his word that he's in the know on what the Sharpe Family plans on doing in 5 months when the league dangles tens of millions of dollars at their son?

That's laughable.
Sharpe said himself that he would be here. I'll take his word for it and trust Cal. Quote was from a few months ago.
 
Well now you have to play him this year right?
If your son was starring at a lottery pick selection in the next NBA draft, based on what he has done to this point, would you allow him to play and risk injury?

I wouldn't. These kids don't give a damn about winning college games, not when the NBA is knocking on their door.
 
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If someone can give me the name, of someone in the last 20 years, of a 19 year old player with a chance to be a top 5 pick in the draft, that has came back because he just really really wants to play college basketball, then I’ll believe there’s a chance.

As of right now, I don’t know of one, and I don’t believe there’s a chance, because I love Kentucky basketball to the point I’d commit as a 5 year old, and if I were magically transformed into a 19 year old basketball player in Sharpe’s shoes, I would go to the draft.

So I have a hard time believing Sharpe is going to wait a full year to go to the NBA, to play a college season, and risk injury, risk draft stock falling, the guy doesn’t have to play one second of basketball from now til July and he’s a top 5 pick.
NIL didn't exist then either. So there's that
 
Oh 100%.. I'm on the anti-Cal side for this one, a side that I've fought with for years. I'm just saying, I think this team is more than capable of a final4 run, with or without Sharpe.

And for real I appreciate you being a UK fan and showing it. Too many are giving blind loyalty to a coach.

I’ve been happier with Cal of late, but then this. I just want to win and want UK’s basketball program to be treated like the royalty that it is.
 
If Cal is going to give a scholarship and spot on the bench to a player that he knows will never play one minute, yet will reap all the perks and rewards of being a University of Kentucky basketball player, then why leave three or four scholarships unused some years?

Hell, give them to some Kentucky basketball players who are good kids but will never play. What’s the difference? It’s a taxpayer-funded, public university. Might as well bring in some good Kentucky kids to enjoy all these perks without ever playing as well.
 
If someone can give me the name, of someone in the last 20 years, of a 19 year old player with a chance to be a top 5 pick in the draft, that has came back because he just really really wants to play college basketball, then I’ll believe there’s a chance.

As of right now, I don’t know of one, and I don’t believe there’s a chance, because I love Kentucky basketball to the point I’d commit as a 5 year old, and if I were magically transformed into a 19 year old basketball player in Sharpe’s shoes, I would go to the draft.

So I have a hard time believing Sharpe is going to wait a full year to go to the NBA, to play a college season, and risk injury, risk draft stock falling, the guy doesn’t have to play one second of basketball from now til July and he’s a top 5 pick.
Good points.

If the kid is coming back next year, why is he so adverse to playing this year? After all, how would playing this year hurt his draft status if he's coming back? Wouldn't he have a full year to show what he can do in 2022-2023?

If he sits this Spring, he's gone. It would make more sense to me that he wants to come back if he actually played this Spring. Sitting only means one thing: he's protecting his draft status. Playing 10 minutes/game this Spring doesn't hurt him or our present team.

The only possible rebuttal is that he's too far behind to learn the offense, but how long to elite players need to be ready when they've spent half of their lives playing against national and international competition on teams that had less a month to collectively practice together?

It makes no sense, unless he's protecting his status.
 
Some of us are still supporting Cal specifically because of the Sharpe class.

If there is no Sharpe, it suddenly gets tenuous for Cal from that region of the fan base that I reside in (which is a growing group).
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Sharpe said himself that he would be here. I'll take his word for it and trust Cal. Quote was from a few months ago.
Sharpe also wouldn’t have gotten a dime in NIL deals if he said, “my plan is to workout with them for the winter semester, I don’t really want to play, I’m eligible for the draft and in the mocks I’m right around top 5-6”

Dude you have pro wrestling avatar, it’s hilarious irony that you’re naive enough to believe the guy that stood to gain hundreds of thousands of dollars by lying about his plans, is actually telling the truth.

Or that you believe the media guy running cover for UK and towing a narrative, in an effort to earn good boy points and maintain relationships with insider sources, is also telling the truth when yesterday he was telling u Shaedon is ineligible and today he’s telling you it’s always been known Shaedon was eligible don’t worry he’s skipping tens of millions to play for UK next year. You’re naive bro.

I don’t want to ruin your day too bad but Stone Cold and the Undertaker aren’t really fighting when you watch them bro, it’s all fake.
 
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Ever since Cal said the platoon was a mistake to kids and parents to kiss there ass he's been tooken like a fool and really getting laughed at by fans and other coaches. The platoon if you have it do it because it work but his things was to kiss butt to the once how doesn't give a flying you know what.... A coach that does things to please fans by getting shooters no 5 star talent. Well you seen them turn it over 18 times last night. Shoot 4-20 from 3 . And now he's looking foolish again by getting the #1_ recruit to never see the floor
 
Sharpe also wouldn’t have gotten a dime in NIL deals if he said, “my plan is to workout with them for the winter semester, I don’t really want to play, I’m eligible for the draft and in the mocks I’m right around top 5-6”

Dude you have pro wrestling avatar, it’s hilarious irony that you’re naive enough to believe the guy that stood to gain hundreds of thousands of dollars by lying about his plans, is actually telling the truth.

Or that you believe the media guy running cover for UK and towing a narrative, in an effort to earn good boy points and maintain relationships with insider sources, is also telling the truth when yesterday he was telling u Shaedon is ineligible and today he’s telling you it’s always been known Shaedon was eligible don’t worry he’s skipping tens of millions to play for UK next year. You’re naive bro.

I don’t want to ruin your day too bad but Stone Cold and the Undertaker aren’t really fighting when you watch them bro, it’s all fake.
And you're calling me "bro" and "dude". 🤣
 
Na
Because players play? This world we are living in where people think they have to hide their ability to keep from being exposed is absolutely $%#*ed.
Nah. He would be stupid to play now. There aren’t enough games left. He starts off poorly and doesn’t have enough time to recover and tanks his draft status? Bad idea.
 
And for real I appreciate you being a UK fan and showing it. Too many are giving blind loyalty to a coach.

I’ve been happier with Cal of late, but then this. I just want to win and want UK’s basketball program to be treated like the royalty that it is.

I mean, I've always known that I support UK over the coach. The minute Cal isn't the best fit for us, he can leave. But.. still seems like he's doing some things right. And I do still think we need to wait and see on this. Maye Sharpe out right lied? I still find it almost unbelievable, if Cal knew this the whole time, and was fine with it. That can't be, right?

But if he did? Oh boy. That's inexcusable. You don't do that to a fanbase that just saw it's worst season in 70 some odd years.

I do think we all need to just wait and see what happens. Cal supporters shouldn't blindly follow him, and the anti-Cal crowd should holster the pitch forks for a bit. This is still such new info without much on the back end.

As John Patrick Mason said, who was famous for apprehending a terrorist effort to use poisonous VX gas on the western coast along with Stanley Goodspeed by his side:

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Don’t wait for it to happen. Don’t even want it to happen. Just watch what does happen"
 
The fringe of our fan base are lunatics
Oh, you mean the same people that travel all over the country, cheer their heads off for the team in rival Venus, spend their only vacation days on the SECT, drive hours to Rupp to watch them play and spend big money on UK gear?

Those lunatics???

Oh, okay, yeah, those are the same people that make this program relevant. I guess you want us to become Indiana now. Awesome.

This is not okay.
 
He definitely is not (essential for a final 4). Pretty cohesive unit we have. If Sharpe doesn't play that's a pretty good indicator that he's coming back.
I also thought having Mercer on that '96 team was not "essential."

Right up until the moment he scored 20 points in the national championship game.

Sometimes it's good to have nonessentials if it means they might be the best player on the court in the long run.
 
Cousins told us he was coming back.
So did MKG.
So did Devin Askew.
So did Archie Goodwin.
The list goes on.

Kids say a lot of things.

Conversely it's not as if we haven't had anyone not return a second year.

I don't think there's anything wrong with taking a wait and see approach to this. If he leaves, he leaves. If he comes back, great.
 
Cousins told us he was coming back.
So did MKG.
So did Devin Askew.
So did Archie Goodwin.
The list goes on.

Kids say a lot of things.
They might want to come back, until an agent gets in their ear and tells them they’re passing on $15 million to play for free, they’re risking that $15 million not being there if they get hurt or their stock falls, they’re also spending a year still being 3 years away from making the big money on your second contract in the NBA, which is shaving tens of millions off of your total career earnings when it’s all said and done.

When your stock is that high in the draft, even if you want to accomplish something in college like win a title or set a record, it’s financially a wildly bad decision to come back, and that sound advice gets through to these kids.

If it doesn’t make dollars, it doesn’t make sense, bro.
 
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