This.
People tend to remember the last the way they want to remember it, rather than how it actually was.
For the record, I don’t dislike Tubby. However, I don’t think he was an amazing coach who needs his name in the Rafters.
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This.
People tend to remember the last the way they want to remember it, rather than how it actually was.
For the record, I don’t dislike Tubby. However, I don’t think he was an amazing coach who needs his name in the Rafters.
Some of those things are true, however it’s not the whole story.
Tubby inherited Kentucky at arguably a better time than what anyone else ever inherited in the history of our program. I think we can agree that Cal didn’t have that luxury.
It’s a lot easier to be handed the keys to a Ferrari than to build one yourself
Okay, but to be fair, he only called it the second time because Sheray wasn't even on the court the first time.
"Could have"? Sure.
Would have? Odds are, no.
That was not the best team in the country, or even one of the 3-4 favorites.
The core:
Sheppard, Mohammad, Padgett, Turner, Evans, Edwards, Magloire
Supporting cast: Mills, Smith, Bradley, Anthony
Only the 2 bigs got more than a cup of coffee in the NBA. None of those players were "star" quality players. It was just a nice group, that fit well together, and was well coached. For you "young" UK fans, it would be like a Calipari team of Lamb, WCS, Willis, Teague, Poythess, Liggins, & Humphries.
You act like it has taken Cal years to build UK to where we are now. Cal's very first UK team (as a result of his instant recruiting success), had way more talent than Tubby's first UK team.
It's not even close (Wall, Cousins, Patterson, Bledsoe, Orton, Miller, Liggins, Dodson compared to Sheppard, Mohammad, Padgett, Turner, Evans, Edwards, Magloire).
So to use your analogy, Cal's first practice he walked in to see the parts to a Ferrari (even if he did have 75% of them shipped there himself), where as Tubby's first practice he walked in to see the parts to a Mustang (still a fast car, capable of winning a race, but it's no Ferrari).
90% of coaching is getting the best players possible. Cal is able to attract high level talent on a consistent basis. He is the master of this, as well as marketing and selling his program.
Tubby, has a long history (10-12 years) at 4 different schools of lower the bar of expectations to multiple fan bases and not putting the effort into recruiting.
As a Memphis alum and season ticket holder, I, like many UK fans have witnessed both coaches. It's not even close who the better coach is, it's Cal.
If Cal didn't rebuild UK, who did? Cal brought the #1 recruiting class of 2009 with him courtesy of Memphis. He's consistently recruited a Top 5 class every year. No other coach UK could have hired at the time would have had them relevant in under 3 years. You people forget what a dumpster fire you had on your hands. Gardner Webb ring a bell?
I am almost inclined to like your post. (I don't do that to many visitors (Not that it matters what I do.) In fact, I think I will. Good Post.
It looks to me like you’re in the minority here. By the way you’re talking, it seems you are eaten up with it...
I don’t speak for anyone else, but it wasn’t the 10 loss season that made me unhappy with Tubby. Every now and then it will happen. However, 10 loss seasons after seasons just got old.
He was an elite coach because he won a championship with Pitino’s players?
That makes me feel good because I know most of us on here could’ve won with those players, so I guess we could all have been elected coaches during that time.
It’s pretty funny you say im eaten up while going through this thread and quoting everyone of my posts.
I can see why you’d think I said it took Cal years to rebuild us after reading it, but that’s not what I was implying. Cal is an elite coach, so it obviously didn’t take him long.
As far as my analogy, no way. If you read earlier posts, you’d see all the talent and experience Tubby walked into vs. Cal.
Cal still had to recruit those players to Kentucky, regardless.
Cal did not build UK as a program, he did however rebuild it to what it is today
Thank you......I remember the passing. I just didn't remember exact players on the team other than Daniels and Hayes.
All true. Just 1 minor note. Calipari has actually recruited a national top 2 class every year. This is why I chuckle when people pompously talk about Calipari “getting his swag back”. Where did it go? LOL! Obviously, Calipari has had his recruiting swag all along.
My thought exactly. You don't have the type recruits Cal recruits every year in abundance. Of course Cal misses some, but not much. Cal seems to not only value talent but also includes lifestyle or life principles into the equation he uses to recruit. He hasn't messed up in that area much, if at all...
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