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You're either completely clueless, which I choose to believe, since no UK fan can be as ignorant as you appear in the post I quoted. Not many will dispute who is the better coach now, or at least the better recruiter, that's easy. It's Cal.
But you're other post seems to take the UK Rick, completely trash him as well as his results here, and somehow come to the conclusion that there is no possible way anyone could've enjoyed that tenure in UK history more than this one....which is completely asinine. One of the dumbest takes I've ever heard actually. Congrats.
Now, feel free to continue with your name calling. It's very impressive.
Rick had a great run here. But Cal's is better. Proof is in the stats. And Pitino has embarrassed his family and his university in addition to being in charge when hookers were paid to help get recruits to UL. So you tell me what isn't factual in any of that?
 
Neither. One is a good coach, but a butt head. The other is a nice guy and a great recruiter that can't coach.

GBB!

You must not want the best for your son. Coach Cal is the man.
  • Four No. 1 overall selections (Derrick Rose, John Wall, Anthony Davis and Karl-Anthony Towns) during the eight drafts from 2008 to 2012. No other coach has more than two No. 1 picks
  • In 2010, five of his UK players were selected in the first round for the first time in NBA history
  • His six players in the 2012 and 2015 NBA drafts are the most in the two-round era
  • Churned out 25 NBA Draft picks, 19 first-rounders, three No. 1 overall selections, six top-five picks and 13 lottery picks at Kentucky
  • Dating back to the 2008 draft, 30 players under Coach Cal have been taken in the NBA Draft, including 21 first-rounders
  • Only coach to produce the top two picks in the same draft (2012 - Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist)
  • Produced a top-10 pick in eight straight drafts since 2008. No other school has had a first-rounder in each of the last eight drafts
 
Even though I'm a life long Card fan(L's up) I'd have to say UK. Why? Because my kids are already UK fans and they all think I'm weird. Can't stand the little bastiges. L1C4.
 
Would never send my kid to Pitino even if it was his only offer. Does not develop kids for the next level, U of L is a gutter trash commuter school, and they have absolutely without question the worst coaches and AD when it comes to morals and ethical standards. Name a school with a head coach in football who has burned bridges at college and pro stops with his last hurrah being having an affair with a female cosch who was engaged to one of his coaches. You have the AD who hires sleazes like Petrino and Pitino and also gives the thumbs up to taking in recruits with criminal pasts out of HS and transfers - c'mon down Willie Williams and Clint Hurtt.

Then you have Pitino who is as sleazy as they come. Let's see if I can top my repeated affairs on my wife with a skank on a restaurant table for 15 seconds. I know - how about I operate a brother out of a dorm named after my brother in law who shares her maiden name.

Cannot prepare kids for the NBA and cannot keep out of the papers for his sexual problems. Why would anyone send their kid there??
 
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Rick had a great run here. But Cal's is better. Proof is in the stats. And Pitino has embarrassed his family and his university in addition to being in charge when hookers were paid to help get recruits to UL. So you tell me what isn't factual in any of that?

Lol...There's definitely some facts there.

But what any of that has to do with the article I quoted or your "facts" therein, I don't know.
 
His choke jobs are no worse than Rick's. And his record is better than Rick's at UK. Rick never went to 4 out of 5 final fours. Rick was a great coach here, but he still isn't what Cal has been during his tenure at UK.

As long as you're willing to acknowledge them. The game is different than when Rick was here, believe it was played at a higher level than today, not Cal's fault, just the way it is. In their prime, give me Rick any day. Sorry if that offends you or others, just my preference.
 
You know, I've been somewhat of a Pitino apologist for years. I've been a UK fan since the mid-70's. Went through the crucible of the Eddie Sutton years and probation, and what Pitino did for us as UK fans in the wake of that is incredible. So I have forgiven a lot.

But damn - the flipping the bird incident is so indefensible. You're an adult - I don't care what insults fans hurl at you, be an adult and ignore them. Reacting to them like that is just validation for them. I'm sure their insults are no worse than what Cal hears at the Yum Center every other year, and probably child's play compared to what UL is going to hear from the Cameron Crazies and other fanbases.
 
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Nope you can't. Just because he seems to be one of them now, doesn't change the fact that he put Kemtucky basketball back on the map.

He didn't put KY basketball "back" on the map. They never left. They were good before him and after him. Other coaches could have done what he did, it may have taken them a little longer. Other coaches would not have been flirting with NBA teams every year.
 
Rick wasn't flipping anyone off, he was just showing which finger he used on Katina.
 
The football-only UK fan. smh

Is there a sadder, more pathetic creature in the sports universe?

U of L player in the NBA?

Someone with a degree from U of L?

Pitino's girlfriend?

Petrino's mistress or her fiancée who impersonated a motorcycle accident on his melon?
 
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Neither. One is a good coach, but a butt head. The other is a nice guy and a great recruiter that can't coach.

GBB!
what's weird is the nice guy/great recruiter has averaged 26+ wins per year in his career even though he can't coach. go figure.
 
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U of L player in the NBA?

Someone with a degree from U of L?

Pitino's girlfriend?

Petrino's mistress or her fiancée who impersonated a motorcycle accident on his melon?
I get the hatred of a sports team, but to criticize all graduates of an institution is a bit red for me. I have advanced degrees from both schools, and quite honestly the one I hold from UL is more respected professionally. There are many very successful, important people that have graduated from UL. Where is your degree from?
 
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Neither. One is a good coach, but a butt head. The other is a nice guy and a great recruiter that can't coach.

GBB!
You don't know much about basketball do you...name two sets uofl ran saturday and then two UK ran...since you know one can't coach.
 
While I agree next years game will be a particularly heavy handed beat down by us in the Chum Bucket....the boys over on their boards predicting that ALL of our players next year will be "just like Skal" and they will win with experience and a AA grad transfer from the MAC-10 ......delusion
 
This thread wasn't to bash anything UofL. There is enough hate in the other threads.

It was intended to show had Pitino not got those two graduate students just how bad they'd be!

And don't bash graduate students, UK has one in Alex Poythress and I'm glad he didn't opt to go somewhere else to play his final year!
this is actually alex's 4th year, although he does have his degree.
 
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I get the hatred of a sports team, but to criticize all graduates of an institution is a bit red for me. I have advanced degrees from both schools, and quite honestly the one I hold from UL is more respected professionally. There are many very successful, important people that have graduated from UL. Where is your degree from?

You are a freaking U of L troll so quit parading around here like you are a UK fan. U of L epitomizes the worst in college sports which starts from the top on down. They admit former criminals as student athletes on a routine basis, they have fleeced the taxpayers for their arena, their administration is being investigated for stealing money, their football coach is as slimy as they come with multiple transgressions at several schools, and their basketball coach has cheated on his wife repeatedly publicly and privately, paid for an abortion, and had a whorehouse being run for years in the dorm named for his brother in law - way to recognize his memory.

I graduated from UK with a very distinguished degree, my education being paid for in full, and turned down offers from Yale and Davidson along with UNC and several SEC schools to play at UK. Used to be a fan of the doctors of dunk teams, but this version of U of L deserves no respect. Since you have such a respected degree you can surely understand a hyperbole - don't take things so literal on a message board. Your U of L cronies known as mods do that enough.

Tell me a school with more coaches who have transgressions in their major programs than U of L?
 
You are a freaking U of L troll so quit parading around here like you are a UK fan. U of L epitomizes the worst in college sports which starts from the top on down. They admit former criminals as student athletes on a routine basis, they have fleeced the taxpayers for their arena, their administration is being investigated for stealing money, their football coach is as slimy as they come with multiple transgressions at several schools, and their basketball coach has cheated on his wife repeatedly publicly and privately, paid for an abortion, and had a whorehouse being run for years in the dorm named for his brother in law - way to recognize his memory.

I graduated from UK with a very distinguished degree, my education being paid for in full, and turned down offers from Yale and Davidson along with UNC and several SEC schools to play at UK. Used to be a fan of the doctors of dunk teams, but this version of U of L deserves no respect. Since you have such a respected degree you can surely understand a hyperbole - don't take things so literal on a message board. Your U of L cronies known as mods do that enough.

Tell me a school with more coaches who have transgressions in their major programs than U of L?
I didn't disagree with your comments about UL coaches. I only said that you were wrong about people with degrees from UL. I'm glad you played whatever you played at UK. Not sure that "distinguished" is the proper adjective to describe a degree. Nonetheless, the hyperbole gets old. If you were offered to attend Yale for free, I can only assume you are smart enough to not have to resort to hyperbole to get your point across. Respect the education you received on the taxpayers of this Commonwealth and act like you are educated. Debate is a good thing. Over the top is not.
 
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As long as you're willing to acknowledge them. The game is different than when Rick was here, believe it was played at a higher level than today, not Cal's fault, just the way it is. In their prime, give me Rick any day. Sorry if that offends you or others, just my preference.
Yeah and Cal nearly beat the greatest team of all time 2 times in one season with one pro player compared to 9for Pitino and UK. So if it was played at a higher level back then Cal was flat out amazing with only 2 pro players in his entire tenure at UMass. You know the mid major school with one NCAA tournament appearance in its history before Cal? You may take Rick in his prime, but Cal was still better.
 
As long as you're willing to acknowledge them. The game is different than when Rick was here, believe it was played at a higher level than today, not Cal's fault, just the way it is. In their prime, give me Rick any day. Sorry if that offends you or others, just my preference.

Rick Pitino has 2 national championships. Lots of coaches have 1, very very few have 2. Anyone who would trash you for that isn't being objective.

Cal is amazing and right now give me Cal. Let's not forget Cal is in line to win more titles and I believe will end with 3.

1995? Rick had that time period mastered. I agree, and being at UK certainly made lots of difference. Lots of people don't realize how many titles Pitino would probably have today had he stayed put.
 
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Yeah and Cal nearly beat the greatest team of all time 2 times in one season with one pro player compared to 9for Pitino and UK. So if it was played at a higher level back then Cal was flat out amazing with only 2 pro players in his entire tenure at UMass. You know the mid major school with one NCAA tournament appearance in its history before Cal? You may take Rick in his prime, but Cal was still better.


Good point. I believe that's why Pitino lobbied for him so hard when he was younger. He knew he was going to be great.
 
I rate the Pitino UK era and Cal era as being fairly close. When Pitino was here, it was pretty fun, and his teams were really fun to watch. Younger fans may not remember that. Bear in mind, I am judging from a coaching standpoint and not character. I do think Cal has overtaken Pitino now based on accomplishments at UK.
 
I didn't disagree with your comments about UL coaches. I only said that you were wrong about people with degrees from UL. I'm glad you played whatever you played at UK. Not sure that "distinguished" is the proper adjective to describe a degree. Nonetheless, the hyperbole gets old. If you were offered to attend Yale for free, I can only assume you are smart enough to not have to resort to hyperbole to get your point across. Respect the education you received on the taxpayers of this Commonwealth and act like you are educated. Debate is a good thing. Over the top is not.

How about you quit preaching to people on the board and acting holier than thou and pretending to be a UK fan. My education was based on the fact the University sought to pay for my education in exchange for my athletic ability. They even covered post grad because of my academic success, and that is why I am very supportive of UK and give back to the school financially. They have helped me to succeed in life so it is the least I can do.

Since you brought it up I will explain distinguished to you. Maybe you have heard of Magna Cum Laude and Summa Cum Laude? Academic All American, All Conference, AD's Honor Roll?
 
I know you're joking but IMO Pitino is making college basketball as enjoyable and entertaining as ever. It's like sit back and grab some popcorn with the clown circus that is UL
 
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This is an unbiased opinion:

Pitino has seemingly changed a lot over the last 15 years. I would send my kid to the Pitino (UK era) but there is no way that I would send him to the post Sypher version of Pitino. Add the Sypher ordeal with the new scandal and he has zero credibility left. If he came into my living room and talked about how he would protect my child, there is no way that I could believe him. I officiate sports at a pretty high level and we always talk about believability. You have much more believability in a call if you are in correct position with a good angle, rather than far away and looking outside your primary coverage. Same thing with coaches. They must have a past that backs up what they say. If Cal wasn't so successful with putting guys in the league, he wouldn't be able to use the pitch that has been so successful with recruits. The recruits believe him because of his results. He had that believability because he produces results. Pitino doesn't have that anymore with his past scandals and this past ordeal has just put the icing on the cake. There is just no way that any parent could believe a word he says anymore unless he says he will make sure my child will not be a virgin when he leaves college. So, when it comes to choosing which coach that so would choose to coach my child, its not even close when I say Coach Cal by a huge landslide. This is a common sense decision if you me.
 
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Depends on whether you are up for a Father/Son Embassy Suites throwdown.
 
No, you're flogging a technicality in order to be reductive about Rick pitino's contribution to all his wins and the 96 championship, a ploy I highly doubt would be so readily administered in any context when speaking of Coach Cal because naturally your acrimony is too consumed by the immediate "Sore" of a former UK coach helming the flagship athletic team of its historical and perennial antithesis.

Rick Pitino recruited those players, he coached those players instilling within them fundamental principles that served as the foundation for their future careers. He conditioned those players into cardio stressing, full court pressing behemoths who brought the unrelenting hammer down on teams at times. He championed the three point shot better than most during the first year it was implemented at the college level thereby forging a legacy(that admittedly is somewhat diminished with the way his teams play now) of high scoring dynamic offense.

Even attempting to perpetrate the notion that his coaching only played a minor part in his illustrious career at the University of Kentucky is illogical diatribe at its finest.



A rumor, my simpleminded friend is not tantamount to guilt.
But I digress, it might be true considering his real documented history with infidelity.

You can call him a philandering slimeball till the cows come home, (you may not be far off) but that has no bearing on his ability to teach the game of basketball and what he has accomplished in his career.
The haters in Louisville and outside the commonwealth regularly use the same inflammatory language and rebukes when describing UK and It's head coach, and we as Kentucky fans simply dismiss them as bitter and jealous.

I just find it funny how that dynamic when flipped, doesn't apply to "certain" UK fans when they are being admonished for doing the exact same thing they deplore the rest of the college basketball community for doing.

Pompous, intractable, and thoroughly beyond reproach.
I love my cats, but I refuse to be a blind fanatic barking at every interpreted slight or insult leveled at the University and more specifically its players and athletic program.
Wow. For someone who just signed up and has a total of five post all lovingly, hard core in defense of Fifteen Second Dicktino the only conclusion is you have a great big man crush.

If you love the man so much you should go over to the UofLsucksville board and speak this crap there but then again your probably a losserville fan anyway. You are ate up with it. Good luck Podge.
 
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