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I was hoping he would get to Chattanooga this year. Hard to believe both Stewart & Collier drafted in 2022 haven't made it out of A Ball when they have been playing well. Marte better kick it into high gear if he wants to be the 3B of the long-term future. Especially with the Reds infield next year shifting the lineup around to fit all of McLain, India, EDLC and Candelario. Jeimer needs to be moved, but good luck finding someone to take on his contract. This is the offseason India probably is traded as well. Their are talented 3B like Collier & Stewart soon to be here. Can't forget Arroyo who is predominatly a SS, but Elly is not losing that spot. Really only 2B & 3B spots for all of these players to get playing time from.
 
Agreed, rough way to lose after the lead they had. I read an article on the 12th that said Brandon Williamson was supposed to start a rehab assignment the following week. 11 days later there is no information out there about whether he started one yet or not.
What about Greene? Haven't seen anything on his "second opinion" trip to California, maybe I missed it.
 
Nats calling up their 2023 #1 draft pick Dylan Crews. Reds need to be doing the same this year with Lowder.

Season is over, so not at this stage unless he's on a strict pitch count. A few starts at most then shut him down and get ready for spring training.
 
Season is over, so not at this stage unless he's on a strict pitch count. A few starts at most then shut him down and get ready for spring training.
The point of calling him up is not in an effort to salvage a lost season, but to get a jump start on the 2025 season with some experience at this level. Plus, the Reds are lacking healthy arms and are going to be limping towards the finish at this rate. The Reds do not need any excuse to start his 2025 season in Louisville by keeping him in AAA the rest of 2024 with a month to go in International League play. That would be dumb. If called up, I'm sure his work load would be limited. If Paul Skenes can finish out the 2024 season as a 2023 draft pick too, so can Lowder. When a season is over, may as well make the most of it by building for the future and develop your young players.
 
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Nats calling up their 2023 #1 draft pick Dylan Crews. Reds need to be doing the same this year with Lowder.
What's Lowder's innings cap this year? he's already somewhere in the 102-110 range. granted he's looking solid, but have to think he hits a wall at some point.

7.5 games out of the Wildcard race now. Seasons essentially over. Time to start shutting guys down and playing some future pieces. Maybe even just hold McClain out till the Spring. No sense in rushing him back now. Bring up Hines.

When will Collier get a promotion to AA?
 
I was hoping he would get to Chattanooga this year. Hard to believe both Stewart & Collier drafted in 2022 haven't made it out of A Ball when they have been playing well. Marte better kick it into high gear if he wants to be the 3B of the long-term future. Especially with the Reds infield next year shifting the lineup around to fit all of McLain, India, EDLC and Candelario. Jeimer needs to be moved, but good luck finding someone to take on his contract. This is the offseason India probably is traded as well. Their are talented 3B like Collier & Stewart soon to be here. Can't forget Arroyo who is predominatly a SS, but Elly is not losing that spot. Really only 2B & 3B spots for all of these players to get playing time from.
What happens to Arroyo with EDLC blocking him? Only thing I can think is he gives them an excuse to move EDLC in a couple of years when he becomes unaffordable.
 
What about Greene? Haven't seen anything on his "second opinion" trip to California, maybe I missed it.
Last I saw they said "no UCL damage" So that's good I suppose. but with this bunch I'd be seeking an outside opinion on my own if I was Hunter Green. I'm beyond not trusting their Training and medical staff.
 
The point of calling him up is not in an effort to salvage a lost season, but to get a jump start on the 2025 season with some experience at this level. Plus, the Reds are lacking healthy arms and are going to be limping towards the finish at this rate. The Reds do not need any excuse to start his 2025 season in Louisville by keeping him in AAA the rest of 2024 with a month to go in International League play. That would be dumb. If called up, I'm sure his work load would be limited. If Paul Skenes can finish out the 2024 season as a 2023 draft pick too, so can Lowder. When a season is over, may as well make the most of it by building for the future and develop your young players.
I feel like Lowder will be brought along like Abbott was. He will likely start next year in Louisville then get a May/June callup and pretty much never go back unless it's for a rehab assignment which will be inevitable.
 
Last I saw they said "no UCL damage" So that's good I suppose. but with this bunch I'd be seeking an outside opinion on my own if I was Hunter Green. I'm beyond not trusting their Training and medical staff.
Thought Greene already had the vaunted "second opinion" and they decided he only "bumped" his arm on a cabinet or some such nonsense. You're right, the Reds medical staff is not to be trusted.
 
Thought Greene already had the vaunted "second opinion" and they decided he only "bumped" his arm on a cabinet or some such nonsense. You're right, the Reds medical staff is not to be trusted.
This is from Lance McCallister, apparently just a bruise. The Reds medical staff is seriously inept.

Hunter Greene's elbow 'issue' is just a bruise that came from a freak accident of banging his elbow on a cabinet. His last start expanded the bruise and caused the inflammation to appear during his examination. He's had an MRI and got three different medical opinions. Dr. Neil Elattrache, who did his Tommy John, indicated his ulnar collateral ligament was "fantastic
 
I feel like Lowder will be brought along like Abbott was. He will likely start next year in Louisville then get a May/June callup and pretty much never go back unless it's for a rehab assignment which will be inevitable.
I can see them holding him down until the same time as Abbott's call-up for another year of service. Lowder is a little bit further along than Abbott at this point who sort of struggled during his 1st 2 years in the Reds pipeline before catching fire when Andrew started off 2023 in AA Chattanooga. I'm leaving out hope he can still debut this year or get enough experience to make the team on Opening Day with a hot ST.
 
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What's Lowder's innings cap this year? he's already somewhere in the 102-110 range. granted he's looking solid, but have to think he hits a wall at some point.

7.5 games out of the Wildcard race now. Seasons essentially over. Time to start shutting guys down and playing some future pieces. Maybe even just hold McClain out till the Spring. No sense in rushing him back now. Bring up Hines.

When will Collier get a promotion to AA?
Not sure they have stated a definite innings cap. Will note though that he has been kept on a strict pitch count. Hasn't exceeded 88 in any start in 2024 so they have paced his arm as the season has progressed. Smart move IMO. Also, shows how efficient of a pitcher pitcher he is to routinely go 5 and 6 innings in most starts.
 
What happens to Arroyo with EDLC blocking him? Only thing I can think is he gives them an excuse to move EDLC in a couple of years when he becomes unaffordable.
I think someone gets moved this offseason. Probably India first and EDLC when he gets too expensive for them in arbitration. Arroyo would make good trade bait for another outfielder, a package deal for a SP or dominant setup man in the pen. With 3 weeks left of AA baseball, it appears like that Collier promotion to AA won't be happening this year.
 
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