The Nasty Boys don't have a damn thing on Jumbo & JJ Hoover. Talk about a shutdown bullpen with those 2...As good as they come!
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Remember when Dibble/Pinella got in a fight in Pinella's office??🤣 Those 2 took nothing from nobody.
Saw Dibble pitch in minor league ball toward the end of his career. He had lost his velocity by then but still had a decent slider.
Haha will never forget those 2 butting heads on the day Bip Roberts got traded to Cincinnati I believe. He was like, what the hell have I got myself into? It's ashamed injuries slowed their careers down at the end because they were fun to watch. Hit base runners in the back, sling the ball over the OF wall. They had an edge about them, something I wish this team had.
Reds' Marte adjusting to new position in AFL
GLENDALE, Ariz. – One of the first texts Noelvi Marte received when he was traded from the Mariners to the Reds was from an old friend, who just happens to be one of the game’s youngest superstars. “Julio \[Rodríguez\] was in shock,” Marte said in Spanish. “I was, too. I
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1 impressive stat from Matt McLain's performance in the Arizona Fall League
The Arizona Fall League is in full swing. Cincinnati Reds infield prospect Matt McLain has put up some odd but impressive numbers thus far.
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Reds propaganda machine, guess they've grown accustom to guys who hit .200. If these guys are prospects instead of suspects they need to step up their game.Reds' Marte adjusting to new position in AFL
GLENDALE, Ariz. – One of the first texts Noelvi Marte received when he was traded from the Mariners to the Reds was from an old friend, who just happens to be one of the game’s youngest superstars. “Julio \[Rodríguez\] was in shock,” Marte said in Spanish. “I was, too. I
1 impressive stat from Matt McLain's performance in the Arizona Fall League
The Arizona Fall League is in full swing. Cincinnati Reds infield prospect Matt McLain has put up some odd but impressive numbers thus far.
At some point the elephant in the room has to be addressed by this FO. It seems as though they are seeking a pat on the back for shifting Marte to 3rd. If they are dead set on Marte being a 3B going forward, whatever. Eventually someone will have to move off the left side of the IF or traded to make room. Marte, Arroyo, ELDC, McLain all will get their chances at the MLB Level, that's not a question but how they are going to manage to play all of them with this approach is a mystery to me. It's one thing to be able to stick at the MLB level. Considering the Reds took Collier & Stewart as well in the 1st Round this year and anyone else who might push their way into the equation. Sure, some of those could be another Senzel but that's the last thing the Reds need is another flame out. Not saying any one of them are going to be busts this early and the potential is there for them to be stars for 10+ years.
Position versatility is quite common at the MLB level in today's game and no excuse for the Reds to not be doing more of this in the farm system instead of failed position players into pitchers. It doesn't mean a player has to stop being an infielder if you see how Trevor Story & Jeff McNeil are used. Hoping they do this more than just with Rece Hinds. I hate when people stick their head in the sand and when you could getting ahead of the curb. If the Reds are forced to trade off guys like India or any of these prospects to accommodate the logjam, perhaps take a more balanced strategy of filling other needs like the outfield. An area that desperately needs to be addressed.
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Became super depressed after reading the Reds blog thingy on Cincy's proposed lineup for '23. TS at C of course but then.....Votto at 1B, India at 2B, McClain at SS, Farmer at 3B. And then the OF....Fairchild, Freidl, Fraley. UGH!!! Fraley I'd take as the 4th.5th OF but the other two, no way! The Reds OF has to be rebuilt top to bottom. Think they had Speer as the DH. But after reading that it dawned on me that '23 will be a replay of '22 and I might as well accept that now, for as long as the Reds have the current ownership and Krall as GM the future is bleak. With this current group "leading the way" there's virtually no chance of draft and develop.
I'll take going into the season with McLain at SS. He needs to show he can hit the ball more consistently but at the moment, that wouldn't make him any different than anyone on the roster. Ready to start with the future and stop fooling around with players like Friedl.
Freidl, who suffers from Senzelitis, a disease that causes OFers to overthrow the cut off man/throw to the wrong base, needs to be a AAA mainstay.
Couldn't find the interview with Krall done a few days ago but if anyone was expecting DLC to open the season with the Reds, we can forget that. They're bound and determined to let him wallow in the minor leagues for god knows how long.
Watching baseball playoffs, I've noticed something called a "home run." Quick way to score runs, don't have to string together 12 singles to get 2 runs the way the Reds do. Neato.
Just a question, but with the injury rates of pitchers these days, especially heat throwers like Greene, would you be treading on dangerous territory to offer a 6 year deal? These days I wouldn't give ANY pitcher more than a three year deal, much less a rookie who hasn't proven themselves to be durable over multiple MLB seasons.
The Reds have to play that game, they tried it and gave up a year or two too early. they have to do what teams like the Twins, and Royals have to do. build up for a 2-3 year run at it, then fire sale for another 2-3 year window 4 or 5 years down the road.
He had 31 homer this year in Seattle and batted .236, but the most telling stat is 196 Strikeouts that led the major leagues.
No, I wouldn't extend a pitcher a 6 year deal but I would TS(didn't make that clear in my original comment). He's the only long term proven prospect they have at the present and they need to lock him down.
Yeah, I get that but when you play in a band-box park you need to build your team around power, not a bunch of singles hitters.
Dumb question. Could they be showcasing McClain in the AFL in hopes of upping his trade value and move him for a viable MLB ready outfielder?
McLain takes hot play into the desert
GLENDALE, Ariz. – When the Reds selected Matt McLain with the 17th overall pick in the 2021 Draft out of UCLA, he immediately looked to be on track to become the club’s starting shortstop for years to come so long as his development progressed. Since then, Elly De La Cruz
Maybe that's what they'd like to do but he's playing SS exclusively to this point and isn't hitting a lick, under .200.
Reds are in a world of hurt, '23 will be just as ugly as '22. For instance, they need to totally rebuild their OF but other than Cerda, none of the young guys are playing OF in winter ball. McClain/DLC are playing SS, Marte 3B. Thought we might see younger guys in OF in AFL or Dominican League but not so at least to this point.
Are there any affordable free agent OF's out there the Reds could pick up for a one or two year deal?
Probably but the real question is will this FO pull the trigger? Don't trust them to do so and don't trust their advanced scouting dept to find guys even tho they fired some scouts at season's end.
Agree they gave up early. Had the Reds spent their money wisely on contract extensions for worthy players instead of Homer over Cueto, the ridiculous Mike Moustakas contract they made have had a real shot at contending.
Noticed where the Braves already have their 2022 1st round pick Owen Murphy in A Ball and logged 5 starts last year. An organization with gumption and why they are routinely in the mix instead of the outside looking in. Collier looked well in his short duration of 27 ABs in rookie ball. Stewart wasn't bad, but not as good as Cam. Going to be awhile on them regardless.
Here's a list of FA outfielders. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/outfield/ The Reds won't do it but would like to see them try to sign Michael Conforto. He should be healthy in 2023 and if he's solid, could do what this FO does best and flip him. I wouldn't have an issue with Kevin Pillar. Don't know what happened this year that he only had 12 ABs with the Dodgers but a solid hitter outside of 2021 when he got clunked in the head and plays the outfield really well. Other than that, they're not going to sign an impact OF despite the need to. Realistically, all you can hope for is a low risk/high reward type signing like Pham in '22. Certainly not going to bring home Benintendi.
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A team afraid to sign a pitcher to more than a 3-year deal is a team that is going nowhere. Green pitched more innings that anyone on this staff and all things considered had a solid rookie season. Cincinnati likely won't be able to afford him anyways should he continue to get better. Who knows if they'll splurge and pay one of Lodolo/Greene like they did for Homer Bailey. There's plenty of time between now and his final year of arbitration. He won't be an UFA until 2028. The Reds probably won't be signing him long term regardless but there is no rush to make a deal this soon and should know his injury frequency by 2027, his final year of arbitration if he is still in Cincinnati at that point.
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JMO, probably not at this time unless he's apart of some package that would have to headline another Reds top prospect playing better right now. Scares me to speculate on who that would be if such a trade were made. Maybe down the road they do with the SS depth in the pipeline. It would feel like the Reds are selling low when he's not exactly killing it during his golden opportunity chosen for the Arizona Fall League in an attempt to speed up his way to MLB.
I'm sure the plan was for him to take off in the AFL, carry it over into Spring Training and maybe have a shot at breaking camp with the Reds on Opening Day. Who knows what happens once ST comes, he may pull an India in '21 and make the roster out of ST. As for now, the Reds best hope is for him to start showing the ability to consistently hit and his stock in a trade will take care of itself or become a contributor for the Reds soon.
Doesn't this sound just like something our FO will do? I sincerely hope Friedl/Fairchild aren't starting while Siani or McGarry are in the minors. As far as the rotation, Stoudt & Williamson need to fill out the 4th & 5th spots though I'm sure Overton & Cessa will be needed for starts as we saw how many injuries the pitching staff had last year. 21 & 80 by Hopkins would be an upgrade over Senzel, TJ & Stuart.
Way-too-early Cincinnati Reds 2023 Opening Day roster predictions
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Wouldn't mind an OF at some point in 2023 with McGarry, Hopkins, Siani and Fraley/Fairchild as the 4th & 5th outfielders. I don't see a scenario in which the Reds don't start Fraley though especially when McGarry/Hopkins haven't reached MLB yet.Doesn't this sound just like something our FO will do? I sincerely hope Friedl/Fairchild aren't starting while Siani or McGarry are in the minors. As far as the rotation, Stoudt & Williamson need to fill out the 4th & 5th spots though I'm sure Overton & Cessa will be needed for starts as we saw how many injuries the pitching staff had last year. 21 & 80 by Hopkins would be an upgrade over Senzel, TJ & Stuart.
Way-too-early Cincinnati Reds 2023 Opening Day roster predictions
The Cincinnati Reds 2022 season did not go as planned. Let's take a way-too-early look at what the Cincinnati Reds 2023 Opening Day roster might look like.
Agreed re Fraley although I see him as a 4th OFer. Still, he has 20 HR, 70 RBI, .270 potential if healthy.
Health is my biggest concern with him. He's worth keeping around as a 4th outfielder for whenever this team can scratch the surface of another .500 season. With the current roster in place, he's the best option Cincinnati has.
I hope the current roster isn't how the Reds open ST, god what a mess that would be! Guess when the WS is over they'll cut the deadwood. If not '23 will be the most depressing season in my lifetime.
Other teams have been filling managerial & coaching staff vacancies. Unless I've missed something, what is the hold up on Cincinnati's end? Letting the best candidates get scooped up first? This franchise is just stuck in reverse when it comes to logic and common sense. Don't think it has anything to do with not wanting to rush making a hire. Some of these openings should have been thought about for a long time now.
They lost me when they didn't can the GM at season's end. Also, the decision to keep Pickler, the guy responsible for the worst outfield defense in MLB, was a head scratcher.
One would think the Reds would at least have a hitting coach in place by now. Would've been nice to at least have a hitting coach floating around the AFL what with McClain/Marte in the sub-.200 club and Hinds having 33 Ks/5 BBs....in like 17 games.
4 free agents the Reds could sign to a 1-year deal during the 2022-23 offseason
The Cincinnati Reds are unlikely to spend big during the offseason, but there are a handful of free agents the club could sign to one-year contracts.
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#1 Giles on a minor league contract with an invite to ST, if he sucks cut him. Otherwise he could help this bullpen if he's healthy. Really can't stomach another season of Kuhnel, Strickland and the likes.
#2 All for Michael Conforto as a low risk/high reward signing. Trade bait.
#3 Hell no. No more washed up injured pitchers who are past their prime with the organization's depth of starting pitching much more deserving.
#4 Yes, I would welcome Tucker Barnhart back in Cincinnati. He won't be valued anywhere else like he would in Cincinnati.
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Today the Reds acquired Nick Solak from the Rangers for cash considerations. Also a former Louisville Cardinal
Guess this is our consolation for when the Reds move on from Kyle Farmer as many articles seem to suggest is quite possible to happen. Excited to see another year of McLain & ELDC in the minors!
Hoping the Reds trade India. He's a poor fielder, has limited range, is slow trying to turn DPs, doubt he ever hits over .250-.260. Rules changes makes him more of a liability. McClain has recently played 2B in AFL(AFL ends this weekend BTW) but I'm thinking Speer may end up at 2B. Really don't understand the Solak signing, maybe a AAA roster filler.Guess this is our consolation for when the Reds move on from Kyle Farmer as many articles seem to suggest is quite possible to happen. Excited to see another year of McLain & ELDC in the minors!
Farmer is a good bat against lefties. I think they keep him and trade him at the deadline for someone who will Platoon himGuess this is our consolation for when the Reds move on from Kyle Farmer as many articles seem to suggest is quite possible to happen. Excited to see another year of McLain & ELDC in the minors!
Won’t trade him just yet. His value is pretty low and he’s cheap.
Been messing around with some Bowman First Chrome auto cards. I've been looking for some prospects to buy. Everyone knows about Elly, and that's reflected in his card prices. So, I was looking elsewhere and noticed a Reds prospect I haven't paid much attention to.
Talk to me about Christian Encarnocion-Strand. He came over from the Twins.
What's this guy's deal? First full season of MILB after going 4th round out of OK State in 2021. He absolutely CRUSHED the ball this year. 952 OPS with 32 homers, 31 doubles, and 5 triples with a 304 batting average and 114 RBI in 484 at bats. Rated as a decent defender on the corners. Played as a 22 year old all season between A+ and AA. Looks like a tank too. He does strike out quite a bit and doesn't walk a lot. But those hitting numbers are eye opening.
Yet, he's not rated in the Top 10 of Reds prospects much less top 100 of MLB prospects. What's his deal? Do scouts just think his game's not going to translate to the next level or what? Because the numbers suggest he's a possible superstar.
Talk to me about Christian Encarnocion-Strand. He came over from the Twins.
What's this guy's deal? First full season of MILB after going 4th round out of OK State in 2021. He absolutely CRUSHED the ball this year. 952 OPS with 32 homers, 31 doubles, and 5 triples with a 304 batting average and 114 RBI in 484 at bats. Rated as a decent defender on the corners. Played as a 22 year old all season between A+ and AA. Looks like a tank too. He does strike out quite a bit and doesn't walk a lot. But those hitting numbers are eye opening.
Yet, he's not rated in the Top 10 of Reds prospects much less top 100 of MLB prospects. What's his deal? Do scouts just think his game's not going to translate to the next level or what? Because the numbers suggest he's a possible superstar.
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