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it all goes back to framing pitches. I hate that. I hate that catchers are allowed to do it and I hate that umps fall for it.
Gotta be a closet Cardinals fan hoping we deal all of our good young players so they don't have to face them all as a unit the next few years.
They are. Thats why they are swinging at pitches that have no business being strikes but are being called strikes.
not able to watch the game at work but following the game online, yet another Pitchers duel. Lively's pitch count is 69 through 6 innings. Great for the bullpen. much needed for somebody to go deep like that especially before an off day.
Okay but they're not doing it well. Don't swing at that high strike at eye level. That's a pop-up or foul ball when you make contact. Swing on that wide strike when it could be extra bases.
High strikes have always been tempting for hitters since baseball began. The friendly strikes inside or low and away have been a bigger issue IMO.
In most of the losses to the Brewers this year the pitching is not the problem. It's the hitting.
His talent is obvious, yes, MLB pitchers are working him over, but he dominated at AAA, what good will it do to send him down again, and who do the Reds bring up to replace him? Besides, this team is a year away (at least) from really being a NL champion contender, I am just enjoying the ride. Mclain, ELDC, CES, Steer, Fraley, Benson, Friedl, and a bunch of young pitchers are the corps of what could be a really great multi year run. Play the young guys and let them develop is the best long term plan, IMO.
You're just pissing in the wind with this guy. A known troll who spews his vitriol from thread to thread whenver Cincinnati comes up and not a Reds fan. No use being rational and using logic with this one. A real Reds fan, even the most pessimistic have to acknowledge some of the positives in addition to their negative agenda. Never here. As others have said, seizes the moment to criticize the team when they are down and no where to be found when they are winning 12 in a row or spending his time with some baseless theories on how all of the players are just a bunch of scrubs in this lineup when the rest of the league would kill to have them.
Barrero has had his chances here. Even called up in 2020 a year before Jonathan India and given the opportunity to make his way in the outfield on this team. It is great that he has caught fire in Louisville but this is not a first for him. Was in the futures game just 2 years ago after being sent back down and lit it up in Spring Training this year. Hasn't even hit a home run yet in GABP.
Maybe some team will have the playing time available and patience to give Jose another shot in MLB but there just is not room in Cincinnati for him. The Reds have team control of him through 2027 so maybe that entices a team in addition to this run in Louisville knowing there is still time to work with Barrero. Bet the A's & Royals would take his services right now.
The smart thing for the Reds to do is start moving some of these infielders without a clear path to Cincinnati with the logjam ahead but are still talented enough for the Majors. Eventually it will get to a point if you don't move them, will be made available in the Rule 5 Draft. Get a reliever(s) like the Reds did in 2020 & 2021 when they were trying to contend. All Chapman went for from Kansas City to Texas were 2 prospects, only one ranked in the Rangers Top 50.
Maybe some team will have the playing time available and patience to give Jose another shot in MLB but there just is not room in Cincinnati for him. The Reds have team control of him through 2027 so maybe that entices a team in addition to this run in Louisville knowing there is still time to work with Barrero. Bet the A's & Royals would take his services right now.
The smart thing for the Reds to do is start moving some of these infielders without a clear path to Cincinnati with the logjam ahead but are still talented enough for the Majors. Eventually it will get to a point if you don't move them, will be made available in the Rule 5 Draft. Get a reliever(s) like the Reds did in 2020 & 2021 when they were trying to contend. All Chapman went for from Kansas City to Texas were 2 prospects, only one ranked in the Rangers Top 50.
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Angels gave up 2 of their Top 3 prospects to acquire Lucas Giolito & Reynaldo López. Giolito was one of the rumored targets by Cincinnati. Also rumored Dylan Cease. They need to forget Lance Lynn and his 6.47 ERA. Gave up 7 runs to the Cubs last night and the most home runs allowed in the entire league. Bad fit for GABP. Weaver ranks in the Top 10. I'm fine with the rotation and a trade for a starter is not necessary IMO. SP has been better as of late outside of Weaver. Greene & Lodolo will push him back. Going to have 6 options in the starting rotation with Abbott, Ashcraft, Williamson, Greene, Lodolo & Lively.
Reds Vice President and Senior Advisor Buddy Bell resigns - Redleg Nation
Buddy Bell, who served as Vice President, Senior Advisor to the Cincinnati Reds President of Baseball Operations has resigned.
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Usually they are out of contention and I've given up on watching them long before this time of year. It's great to see them actually fighting and contending. Great leadup to what is usually a boring August before Football starts.
Definitely something to watchReds Vice President and Senior Advisor Buddy Bell resigns - Redleg Nation
Buddy Bell, who served as Vice President, Senior Advisor to the Cincinnati Reds President of Baseball Operations has resigned.
Based on the results so far, I think David Bell deserves a contract extension of at least 1 year. Not that he's above any criticism of course.
In some ways, I feel like the Reds are winning in spite of him. He may not deserve to be fired but I haven’t seen anything to warrant an extension.
Personally think Bell has done a hell of a job, would absolutely extend his contract
I've been critical too. I liked how they were playing when India or Friedl was batting leadoff but Bell's gotten about as much out of this young team and pitching staff as could be expected. Nobody thought they had a shot this year and it wouldn't have surprised me to see them lose 100 games again. Then the top 3 starters all went down at about the same time. Lots of chances for these guys to mail it in. Something or someone always kept it positive and constructive. Sure tf wasn't ownership.
Hell, I can even remember my dad questioning Sparky's handling of the pitching staff. I thought he was nuts but the Captain Hook nickname was well deserved.
The article above mentioned this being the last year of his contract. Something has to give.
Wondering if he’s lasted as long as he has because they were in a retooling mode and just needed somebody to get them through it. I have to wonder if they don’t plan to extend and have a replacement in the works. Not sure who that would be, but it better be a home run hire if they do.
Any of you have any names you’d like to see replace Bell?
Originally wanted Girardi in 2019 but that ship has sailed given how things soured both in Philadelphia and New York.
If a change is made and Joe Maddon is available, there's one name. Maddon has spoken highly about the Reds farm system in the past. Felt like he got a raw deal with the Cubs when they decided to go in another direction and were still contending with him before David Ross took over. What he did building the small market Rays during their first taste of success in '08 to reach the World Series is impressive. Anaheim did not work out though that has been a piss poor ran organization from the FO without much depth with the approach of throwing money at multiple bad contracts prior to this season where they are actually in contention. Haven't had a winning season since 2015 with Scioscia still there.
Wouldn't be surprised if they looked within the organization in the minors for someone that has experience working with these players coming up like Bryan LaHair who has been in the organization since 2018. Shildt will probably get another managerial job soon. Kevin Long is bound to become a manager and is a good hitting coach. If DJ isn't retained, possibly the Rays pitching coach Kyle Snyder.
Ross has the Cubs sitting at .500 right now and are in a interesting position whether to buy/sell. Hanging around 5.5 GB in the division, 4 back in the Wild Card. Reds 0.5 GB ahead of Arizona and Miami. The Marlins just improved their bullpen with David Robertson. Not sure on Shildt back in the NL Central as an ex-Card, perhaps some familiarity with the younger Cardinals left from his time there if this ever happened. Johnson has done some good things during his time as the Reds pitching coach and will surely land on his feet if Bell is ever let go. Don't want to see the Reds make the same mistake as they did firing Dusty Baker just to hire the shit hot pitching coach name at the time in Bryan Price.
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Johnson's done decent as the Pitching Coach, but the piles and piles of injuries they seem to have on the pitching staff every year is concerning. I don't know how much he is involved in their strength and conditioning, or if whatever he's doing is causing them to be over-worked leading to injuy, but something has to give at some point.
I was wondering about Maddon myself. I think this would be a bad hire for such a young team. If David Bell is gone, I would want someone younger and able to relate even better to these young players. Maybe someone, former player for example, out of the game less than 10 years. I know nothing about the others on your list.
Sparky was 36 by opening day in 1970 when hired by the Reds.
I feel quite opposite about it. Maddon has always been a "players manager" and great for player relations. Knew someone would not like it. Not been out of managing in the game that long, 2022. Just look what Snitker & Dusty are doing. Even Francona with only 1 losing season in 23 years. Sometimes a veteran manager who has been through the fire can be the right fit especially during a crucial time in development for such a young team.
Long has been praised by many players in the last 10 years for his reputation as a hitting coach. Same for Snyder as a younger pitching coach has done wonders for all of the young pitchers Tampa Bay has turned out since 2018. Shildt former NL manager of the year. When you hire a player out of the game with less than 10 years out, not going to know anything about them as a manager. That is the risk you take hiring one of them, someone like Bell or Bryan Price if you don't hire a veteran manager.
If you want a young manager that has already related to these young players, Bryan LaHair, 40 with MLB experience has worked with Reds prospects in the organization since 2018 and a winning record as the Dragons manager in 2022 67-61 in the 1st season and 48-45 this year. Record might not be the greatest but the production out of the talented prospects rapidly moving up has been impressive. If you don't like Maddon, probably won't want the Bats Pat Kelly either.
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I could see bringing on Maddon for a few years to bring some energy to the team from the coaching staff side to match what these young guys have along with his winning record from Chicago and the young and upcoming Rays as a small market team. Groom someone like Sean Casey who is trying to get in the game as a hitting coach in New York. Bring him on as a bench coach. Another former Red I think could be a good manager Todd Frazier. Ideally would want these guys to have some experience first before coming in to be the manager of a young team.
Not sure either but was a coveted pitching coach with Milwaukee when the Reds lured him away.
I think the Cubs are best trading off Stroman and Bellinger while they are hot. They would get a haul for Stroman and Bellinger will get a long term deal in free agency. Hendricks & Taillon too. Still have the budget to add pieces in free agency for any prospects they have in return and coming up.
Ideally it would be nice to find the right candidate who could have a 20-30 year career in managing to bring continuity to the Reds like Sparky in the BRM days and continued on with Detroit.
If you want energy with the coaches, would be hard to beat a staff consisting of Maddon, Casey or Frazier. Todd Frazier is doing broadcast work these days and Casey started off the same after his playing career working with MLB Network.
Reds send Vladimir Gutierrez, Casey Legumina on rehab stints - Redleg Nation
The Cincinnati Reds have sent right-handed pitchers Vladimir Gutierrez and Casey Legumina on rehab assignments to the Arizona Complex League.
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Sammy Stafura RBI double, 2 runs scored in his ACL Reds debut.
Lance Lynn off the board. Lynn & Joe Kelly back to Dodgers for 2 pitching prospects #9 ranked Nick Nastrini & unranked Jordan Leasure. Lynn in no shape or form would have been an upgrade to this pitching staff getting the job done lately. Would have been like having Mike Minor back.
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