Reds

[kybloo92]

Hope it works out for all concerned but have my doubts about Greene staying healthy.. I'd rather they sign Lodolo, TS, Ashcraft in that order.

As long as Stephenson has a role at catcher of some sort going forward and his offense returns to form then by all means Cincinnati has to extend him. With the Reds best prospects at catcher a ways off still, they need him at catcher before he can be a full-time DH. Will say though If he turns into another Joe Mauer at DH/1B late in his career, unable to catch with little power and a .280 hitter in that role I think the money would be better spent making can't miss prospects like ELDC or CES a lifer in Cincinnati should they be as good as advertised. Not saying Stephenson will be limited like Mauer, just need to see him stay on the field and be productive over the course of a season first.

 

[kybloo92]

Really poor location on his pitches. Good thing is he now has film to watch. BTW, Tampa are bangers....really good hitting club.

Bummer that Steer's still out.

Definitely, has the film to go to now. Hopefully he can settle in to come. 2nd inning looked better. Wonder how much of it was nerves and Tampa Bay the best hitting team in the league to start. Regardless how much, has to keep the ball away from the middle of the plate or get smoked in this park.

 

[mrschwump]

Castillo did the same in 2017 that year except he skipped right over AAA before his promotion Cincinnati. At least we know this organization has done it in the past. 2023 is looking more and more like a great year to do it again.

Abbott's a college pitcher therefor older and more experienced. Pitching today, I'd move him to AAA for a couple of starts then Cincy in mid to late May. There's no need to waste Abbott's innings in the minor leagues. None.

 

[mrschwump]

As long as Stephenson has a role at catcher of some sort going forward and his offense returns to form then by all means Cincinnati has to extend him. With the Reds best prospects at catcher a ways off still, they need him at catcher before he can be a f Will say though If he turns into another Joe Mauer at DH/1B late in his career, unable to catch with little power and a .280 hitter in that role I think the money would be better spent making can't miss prospects like ELDC or CES a lifer in Cincinnati should they be as good as advertised. Not saying Stephenson will be limited like Mauer, just need to see him stay on the field and be productive over the course of a season first.

I'm concerned about TS's power or lack of same. I'm afraid the busted shoulder and the hardware used to repair it has sucked the power out of him.

 

[mrschwump]

Thought Stoudt's three innings after the unfortunate start were encouraging. Thought he earned another start.

Good inning for Sims but I'm not a fan of short-armed pitchers, they seldom last long.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Thought Stoudt's three innings after the unfortunate start were encouraging. Thought he earned another start.

Good inning for Sims but I'm not a fan of short-armed pitchers, they seldom last long.

Agree, he did calm down and won't give up 6 in the 1st inning next time. Nervous energy probably depleted him early. It was a struggle for Stoudt, 7 runs in 4 innings but have to keep in the rotation to let him to develop now that he's here. It's his chance before pitchers like Abbott, Roa, Williamson, Petty, Phillips among others make their way towards Cincinnati. It's ugly but building for the future.

 

[jameslee32]

Getting outscored 17-0 in the last 14 innings seems bad.

 

[mrschwump]

Agree, he did calm down and won't give up 6 in the 1st inning next time. Nervous energy probably depleted him early. It was a struggle for Stoudt, 7 runs in 4 innings but have to keep in the rotation to let him to develop now that he's here. It's his chance before pitchers like Abbott, Roa, Williamson, Petty, Phillips among others make their way towards Cincinnati. It's ugly but building for the future.

Not sure about Roa and Petty. Petty's been hurt, Roa's struggled out of the gate. Had hoped both would be further along. Modest step forward for Williamson yesterday.

 

[mrschwump]

Getting outscored 17-0 in the last 14 innings seems bad.

Really poor offensive team with little power. Doesn't help that their best hitter to date, Steer, is out. Barrero showing modest improvement, as usual nothing out of Senzel.

 

[jameslee32]

Glass half-full stat. Bullpen has only given up 3 ER, 7 hits, 3 BB in the last 7.1 innings pitched. Also 6 K's in that span.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Not sure about Roa and Petty. Petty's been hurt, Roa's struggled out of the gate. Had hoped both would be further along. Modest step forward for Williamson yesterday.

Ever since the Arizona Fall League Roa has really gotten beat around pretty badly. ST wasn't good, off to a bad start this year. Thought he did fine for the most part in the 2022 regular season. At his age, it would behoove him to get it figured out or be passed over. Really only 2 spots up for grabs in the rotation behind the big 3. Petty still young at 20 and have high hopes for him if he gets healthy but time to pump the brakes on Roa. Coming straight out of A&M, should have been progressing like Abbott. Wonder what the cause of his struggles are right now?

 

[jameslee32]

Really poor offensive team with little power. Doesn't help that their best hitter to date, Steer, is out. Barrero showing modest improvement, as usual nothing out of Senzel.

India is their best hitter imo but little to no offense was expected. Pitching needed to be better but isn't. Happy for Barrero (long way to go), Friedl, Steer and the hitting coaches. Still not concerned about Stephenson with no protection in the lineup.

 

[kybloo92]

3 of the last 4 games finishing the game with a position player haha

 

[kybloo92]

David Bell just a little bit pissed off lol

 

[mrschwump]

Ever since the Arizona Fall League Roa has really gotten beat around pretty badly. ST wasn't good, off to a bad start this year. Thought he did fine for the most part in the 2022 regular season. At his age, it would behoove him to get it figured out or be passed over. Really only 2 spots up for grabs in the rotation behind the big 3. Petty still young at 20 and have high hopes for him if he gets healthy but time to pump the brakes on Roa. Coming straight out of A&M, should have been progressing like Abbott. Wonder what the cause of his struggles are right now?

Re Roa, have to wonder if he has an injury but whatever it is, he's hit a wall. Have to wonder if Benschoter or Lyon Richardson will get a look. With so many AA/AAA hitters it probably doesn't really matter.

 

[mrschwump]

David Bell just a little bit pissed off lol

I think that was for the benefit of his team, trying to light a fire under their dead ass.

 

[kybloo92]

I think that was for the benefit of his team, trying to light a fire under their dead ass.

Looked like Barrero wanted to charge after that Fairbanks. He was wild out there.

 

[mrschwump]

3 of the last 4 games finishing the game with a position player haha

I don't recall ever seeing 3 of 4 games finished by non-pitchers.

On to Pittsburgh for the Battle for the Cellar.

 

[CalCat57]

I don't recall ever seeing 3 of 4 games finished by non-pitchers.

On to Pittsburgh for the Battle for the Cellar.

Right now Pittsburgh is much better than the Reds. They are playing good baseball.

 

[trueblujr2]

I'm concerned about TS's power or lack of same. I'm afraid the busted shoulder and the hardware used to repair it has sucked the power out of him.

Hoping it’s just not being at full strength after a lengthy time away from being able to do upper body conditioning. I’m sure it will come around as the season progresses and he regains the strength.

 

[mrschwump]

Right now Pittsburgh is much better than the Reds. They are playing good baseball.

My son played college summer ball with current Pirate bench coach Don Kelly. Great guy, very smart, will be a manager someday.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Reds' Elly De La Cruz: Activated off minor-league IL

Reds' Elly De La Cruz: Activated off minor-league IL

www.cbssports.com

 

[mrschwump]

Reds' Elly De La Cruz: Activated off minor-league IL

Reds' Elly De La Cruz: Activated off minor-league IL

www.cbssports.com

YAY!!

 

[kybloo92]

D-backs DFA struggling Bumgarner, to eat $34M

Madison Bumgarner has been designated for assignment by the Diamondbacks, who will eat more than $34 million remaining on the veteran left-hander's contract.

www.espn.com

Off to a rough start and obviously a temperamental player but damn he could eat some innings and mentor some of these young starters. There was talk a few years ago when the Reds were trying to build for a contender last time that Cincinnati considered signing him. Can't be worse than Overton or Cessa. Arizona paying that salary so I would be for taking a chance on him.

 

[mrschwump]

D-backs DFA struggling Bumgarner, to eat $34M

Madison Bumgarner has been designated for assignment by the Diamondbacks, who will eat more than $34 million remaining on the veteran left-hander's contract.

www.espn.com

Off to a rough start and obviously a temperamental player but damn he could eat some innings and mentor some of these young starters. There was talk a few years ago when the Reds were trying to build for a contender last time that Cincinnati considered signing him. Can't be worse than Overton or Cessa. Arizona paying that salary so I would be for taking a chance on him.

If somebody else is paying him, why not? Was always intriguing to me. You'd never, ever teach a kid to throw like him, across his body against a stiff front leg. But it worked for him. I'm surprised his shoulder hasn't exploded by now.

 

[M4CAT]

D-backs DFA struggling Bumgarner, to eat $34M

Madison Bumgarner has been designated for assignment by the Diamondbacks, who will eat more than $34 million remaining on the veteran left-hander's contract.

www.espn.com

Off to a rough start and obviously a temperamental player but damn he could eat some innings and mentor some of these young starters. There was talk a few years ago when the Reds were trying to build for a contender last time that Cincinnati considered signing him. Can't be worse than Overton or Cessa. Arizona paying that salary so I would be for taking a chance on him.

He's an asshole and threw a fit for simply being asked to give that ball back for Votto's 800th extra base hit last year. Was a good player but not sure how he is going to jive on a young team. Though it's not like Cincinnati has anything to lose by not signing him so what the hell lol Why not?

 

[kybloo92]

If somebody else is paying him, why not? Was always intriguing to me. You'd never, ever teach a kid to throw like him, across his body against a stiff front leg. But it worked for him. I'm surprised his shoulder hasn't exploded by now.

Wonder if those injuries are to come being 33 now and responsible for why he is DFA'd maybe wearing down. Would have been a nice pick up for the Reds when the NL did not have a DH with his power for a pitcher too. He was incredible in his prime and with their record would get waiver priority over the majority of teams. Though San Francisco has a worse record right now and that would concern me over a possible reunion. I don't recall if he burned down any bridges there on the way out or if SF was just headed in another direction in a rebuild at the time. With Weaver back today, Stoudt optioned back after hearing them say it was a 'spot start' Cincinnati needs to consider Mad Baum with the lack of production from the 4-5 starters, lean on Bumgarner's track record and maybe flip him at the deadline if he goes on a roll. Wish Stoudt stayed in the rotation and build on the solid innings after the 1st and Cessa is better fit in the bullpen where arms are needed.

 

[mrschwump]

Wonder if those injuries are to come being 33 now and responsible for why he is DFA'd maybe wearing down. Would have been a nice pick up for the Reds when the NL did not have a DH with his power for a pitcher too. He was incredible in his prime and with their record would get waiver priority over the majority of teams. Though San Francisco has a worse record right now and that would concern me over a possible reunion. I don't recall if he burned down any bridges there on the way out or if SF was just headed in another direction in a rebuild at the time. With Weaver back today, Stoudt optioned back after hearing them say it was a 'spot start' Cincinnati needs to consider Mad Baum with the lack of production from the 4-5 starters, lean on Bumgarner's track record and maybe flip him at the deadline if he goes on a roll. Wish Stoudt stayed in the rotation and build on the solid innings after the 1st and Cessa is better fit in the bullpen where arms are needed.

Reds need to figure out this 4/5 stuff, it's a mess. Really don't look for Weaver to be much better if at all. MadBum is probably used up. Do think we'll see different results from Stoudt next time, Abbott, Boyle, Richardson et al are on the way and will figure in by season's end but there needs to be a bridge before we get there. Don't forget, ALL the Big Three were on the IL at one time or another last year. Will there be a repeat?

 

[kybloo92]

Reds need to figure out this 4/5 stuff, it's a mess. Really don't look for Weaver to be much better if at all. MadBum is probably used up. Do think we'll see different results from Stoudt next time, Abbott, Boyle, Richardson et al are on the way and will figure in by season's end but there needs to be a bridge before we get there. Don't forget, ALL the Big Three were on the IL at one time or another last year. Will there be a repeat?

Considering only Greene topped 125 innings and barely last season, Cincinnati will have to skip starts for them as the season goes. Pushed back Greene with this most recent injury with the Stoudt spot start. Will have to bring Levi back up at some point to manage this.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Even a washed up Bumgarner offers the Reds more than what Cessa & Overton have so far. We'll see what Weaver does starting tonight. Even the Yankees figured out fast Cessa is a reliever. He is solid in that role and stretching him out to be a starter late last season was all due to the Reds lacking depth in the rotation. Until the Reds starting pitching prospects get up to the MLB level AND stay here, Cincinnati needs a stable pitcher at the back end of the rotation.

I'm sure Bumgarner will settle in wherever he goes. Injuries haven't been a problem for him lately and just 33. Would like to see what Derek Johnson could do to help Madison get back on track. An ERA in the 4.00s with 56 starts in the past 2 seasons eats innings, rests the Big 3 and stabilizes the back end of the rotation. If it doesn't work out, he's a low-risk, high reward type player anyway with the D'Backs on the hook for his remaining salary.

We all said throughout the offseason the Reds needed an 'innings eater' and weren't satisfied with how the Reds went into the season especially after Williamson didn't make the team out of ST after many thinking he would.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Steer back in the lineup today.

 

[kybloo92]

Even a washed up Bumgarner offers the Reds more than what Cessa & Overton have so far. We'll see what Weaver does starting tonight. Even the Yankees figured out fast Cessa is a reliever. He is solid in that role and stretching him out to be a starter late last season was all due to the Reds lacking depth in the rotation. Until the Reds starting pitching prospects get up to the MLB level AND stay here, Cincinnati needs a stable pitcher at the back end of the rotation.

I'm sure Baumgarner will settle in wherever he goes. Injuries haven't been a problem for him lately and just 33. Would like to see what Derek Johnson could do to help Madison get back on track. An ERA in the 4.00s with 56 starts in the past 2 seasons eats innings, rests the Big 3 and stabilizes the back end of the rotation. If it doesn't work out, he's a low-risk, high reward type player anyway with the D'Backs on the hook for his remaining salary.

We all said throughout the offseason the Reds needed an 'innings eater' and weren't satisfied with how the Reds went into the season especially after Williamson didn't make the team out of ST after many thinking he would.

Would take the numbers 7-7, 4.50 ERA in 128 innings for the Reds that Matt Harvey gave Cincinnati in 2018 after the Mets had enough of him.

 

[kybloo92]

WEAVER'S A JOKE!!!!!

 

[CalCat57]

Reds are pathetic.

 

[M4CAT]

WEAVER'S A JOKE!!!!!

A 4 run 1st inning is just that, not good but he settled in after that in 6 innings giving up no more runs, 8 K's. He was efficient with his pitch count too. Considering it's his 1st start in 2 years, on the road vs a hot Pirates team he's earned another start for the Reds with the current state of the starting rotation. Not sure we learned a whole though tonight regarding what Weaver is going to be long term after the 1st inning and solid the rest of the way which pitcher he will be. The Reds pitchers have to limit the damage early on and give themselves a better chance to win. The offense is atrocious and all things considered he pitched good enough to give them a shot to win if the bats weren't ice cold. It's really all or nothing with this Reds offense. If the hitters don't jump on the opponents pitching early, they aren't coming back to win.

 

[jameslee32]

At least they finally scored after 24 scoreless innings and also the bullpen is pitching pretty well.

 

[kywildcatsfannumber1]

Can't see this team consistently putting up enough runs to win until help in the form of CES, ELDC & McLain get up here. India, Friedl & Steer have done all they can so far but it's going to take more than these 3 to win games for the Reds.

I'm sure Fraley will get it going eventually, Barrero & Myers have had their moments. Stephenson may take a while still if he ever fully gets back to the player who hit .319 in 183 ABs last year. Who knows what Votto has left at nearly 40 coming off rotator cuff surgery and still not back. Hate to see what appears to be his final season missing so much time and spending much of it trying to get back to form.

As far as Senzel, Vosler, Fairchild & Newman they can't hit consistently enough to warrant a spot in the lineup everyday but right now there are no better options to send out there on this team. Benson who I was erroneously high on, more wishful thinking, has 1 hit since being demoted to Louisville.

 

[kybloo92]

A 4 run 1st inning is just that, not good but he settled in after that in 6 innings giving up no more runs, 8 K's. He was efficient with his pitch count too. Considering it's his 1st start in 2 years, on the road vs a hot Pirates team he's earned another start for the Reds with the current state of the starting rotation. Not sure we learned a whole though tonight regarding what Weaver is going to be long term after the 1st inning and solid the rest of the way which pitcher he will be. The Reds pitchers have to limit the damage early on and give themselves a better chance to win. The offense is atrocious and all things considered he pitched good enough to give them a shot to win if the bats weren't ice cold. It's really all or nothing with this Reds offense. If the hitters don't jump on the opponents pitching early, they aren't coming back to win.

Yes he did settle down but this has been a theme all too much with Reds pitching needing to limit damage in the 1st. Every inning counts and SP has to get off to a better start in games to give the offense a chance. If the damage was limited today and Weaver anywhere close to what he finished the game as, Reds win this one. Going to be the story more times than not with this team. I agree he gets another chance based on how he finished but as long as he is healthy, he was staying in the rotation regardless. The hitting has been terrible to the surprise of no one and back to back games SP have been solid after the 1st inning. Sadly, I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[CalCat57]

The Reds just have no consistent power. They out hit Pittsburgh tonight 8 to 4, but the Pirates get four runs on two home runs the Reds get zero.

 

[kybloo92]

At least they finally scored after 24 scoreless innings and also the bullpen is pitching pretty well.

At least that area has improved for the Reds lately. It could be a strength for this team once everyone is healthy. Young, Law & Gibaut have been solid. Sanmartin has been decent and often put in difficult game situations once it's already out of hand, has some durability as a starter. Herget will be back, was decent in the same role as Sanmartin in middle relief. Sims looked well in his return. Diaz is great and will come around. The least of my concerns despite the ERA over 5.00. Farmer has been better of late much like he was in the 2nd half last year.

Cruz has work to do especially with Herget, Karcher, Nutof, Busenitz in Louisville pitching well. Also Lyon Richardson on the 40-man could make a surprise debut to Cincinnati. At some point Santillan will be back, much later for Antone though I don't expect much right away for 2 pitchers that have been out as long as they have been.