Don't look now, But the Reds are only 1.5 games out of third place in the Central and they only have the 4th worst record in baseball now. It used to be thee worst. They're rolling now I tell ya!
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If for some reason, the Reds decided to keep one or the other of Mahle or Castillo, which do you keep? Is Mahle the more affordable option at this point if you intend to offer something longer term? Mahle's a couple of years younger too.
I agree that Mahle would be the more affordable option long term. Castillo IMO is the ace that the Reds need and has shown more consistency throughout his career. He would give the Reds a bigger return in a trade. If they decide to keep one, Mahle might be good enough the way Hunter Greene is rounding into form with Ashcraft, Overton & Lodolo filling out the rotation.
So they get swept by the Brew Crew and now have to face the Dodgers for three. FYI, the three Dodgers pitchers they have to face have a combined record of 20-1 and ERA's of 1.42, 2.82 and 2.02 Respectively. The first two are both 8-0. One can only hope they are due for a loss, I'm just not seeing it.
He'll be good to the point he commands top dollar and they have to part ways with him.
Cheap-ass Reds will never ever pay good players the going rate thereby condemning them to a constant state of rebuilding. It'll be decades and we'll all be long gone before the Reds are a threat to win a WS.
It's absolutely mind boggling how incompetent the Castellini's are and content with being basement dwellers and the whipping boy for the NL Central. No pride at all nor the least bit competitive. So much for once we get all of our guys back this team is going .500 the rest of the way 😆 😆 😆 Stephenson, Lodolo & Naquin are not the difference in sitting 21 games below .500 to a winning season. This whole organization is a dumpster fire.
Reds have two AAA teams, one in Louisville and one in Cincy. Neither are very good.
Absolutely sad. Doesn't bode well for the immediate future of the Reds with no one at Louisville busting down doors to get to Cincinnati. Of our Top 10 prospects, not one of the position players are hitting above .300. De La Cruz at .299 but is so far off from being called up.
Don't recall with all the changes the past few years, does MLB still allow September callups of young guys? If so, Reds prospects projected to arrive in '23 plus De La Cruz need callups to get a taste and for Reds to see what they have the last month of the season. By then Reds will have dumped Castillo, Mahle, Drury, Pham, Minor, hopefully Moose/Senzel and maybe Votto and Farmer(maybe all that will bring one Lower A prospect). If FO is serious about building a MLB team then by god get busy doing it.
The number they are allowed to bring up has been limited to 28. Would be like them to use the 3 spots on Friedl, Moran & Hendrix caliber players who offer little value on this roster.
I absolutely believe the Reds should reach down more often for a phenom than letting players get complacent in the minors. Enough of everyone needing to be 24 to get the call up here. Other organizations have their phenoms like Soto, Harper, Correa, Trout etc who were ready early. Why the Reds haven't had a young super star at that age with the losing over the past 30 years makes me question the development the prospects are getting within the system. Yes Votto is an all-time Reds great but among many others was 1 week shy of being 24 at his MLB Debut in '07. Felt he should have been up immediately after the Casey trade after 2005.
I'm still stunned Barrero made the jump from A Ball without MILB in 2020 when it should have been India. Goes to show even then, the Reds FO will screw it all up and fast track the wrong guy.
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De La Cruz/McClain at the absolute very least should finish the season with the Reds. Agree re young guys and their lack of development....please, no more of Moran/Friedl, etc!!
7-game losing streak and the Reds still have a series upcoming at San Francisco, the Braves on fire, the Mets, Tampa Bay, at Yankee Stadium & St. Louis all before the All-Star break. Down to the final starts with Castillo as a Red. Can either look at it as getting rid of another star player or the Marty Brennaman mindset in regards to Votto that you can lose 100 games with him as easy as you can without him.
It really is. Just brutal. Meanwhile the Mets are salivating at screwing the Reds dumping off another Dilson Herrera on us. Just another success transaction by this inept FO.
I imagine the Mets is just one of many contenders we'll hear linked to Reds/Castillo before it's all said and done. One thing for sure however is this FO will make the worst deal possible.
Castillo & Houston are another I've seen and have been rumored to be a possibility the last few years. Wouldn't shock me to see them acquire him with Verlander's age. They'll most certainly not capitalize on a return much in the way they let Chapman go for pennies on the dollar while New York received Gleyber Torres out of him for a 2 month rental by Chicago. To the lowest bidder he goes!!
Just in time for the sell off. If your the Reds FO who do you keep, not who do you trade? For me I keep the 3 young pitchers plus India and TS. Everybody else goes.
Agreed, seems like everyone is either dead weight or too old to build for the future when there are prospects Cincinnati needs to reach down for. It's stupid that De La Cruz hasn't been promoted to Chattanooga yet or McLain in Louisville having played in the NCAA. Wish Overton didn't get hurt, still not sold on him having bounced around prior to Cincinnati and could have sold high on him. Of course he would get hurt. Who doesn't with this training staff in place?
Yeah, don't understand the thinking re De La Cruz/McClain. Those guys should be in Cincy for the 2d half of the season, to be slow rolling them in the minors is just plain stupid.
Absolutely, meanwhile they have stunted the growth of Barrero. In the futures game last year and now is hitting like .216 or something. I'm starting to think some of it might be complacency that I've heard Welsh allude to from time to time with prospects staying in MILB too long.
I'm probably a lot older than you. I recall in the early 1960s the Reds had a young SS named Leo Cardenas. Very young, wiry build, probably weighed 150 soaking wet as a rookie but they were smart enough to see his talent, put him at SS and let him be. He eventually worked himself into an All-Star. Point I'm trying to make is the Reds need to do the same thing with Barrero instead of hamstringing him.
I like Welsh, think he knows what's wrong with the organization but has to temper what he says to keep his job. Sadak/Larkin are insufferable. If one never looked at the standings one would think the Reds were in 1st place with a HOF line-up. UGH!! Old saying is: "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging." Reds, instead, have bought new shovels.
That's a great example of why the Reds need to learn from history and do this with Barrero before he is ruined for good. At age 24, he's not getting any younger and batting .090 lower than he did at .306 with Louisville last year.
I definitely get that feeling too that Welsh has to bite his tongue on the air waves. He's seen some bad Reds baseball over the past 30 years and deserves a medal with all of us who continue to support the Reds through these awful times. Sadak is green and gets overly excited over the slightest thing the Reds do, even a double in garbage time down 8 in the late innings.
They are talking like Justin Dunn should be ready by around the All-Star break as well. and they are building him up to be in the starting rotation. That tells me they are obviously looking to move Castillo and/or Mahle, or they are going to shut Hunter Greene down at some point in August, which is logical. There are a couple of guys right now who need to skip a start. Greene being one and maybe Ashcraft after last nights debacle. Minors been nothing short of Putrid since he's been called up. What a waste.
Also saw where Naquin is about to begin his rehab assignment with the Bats just in time for the deadline. A team in need of a lefty at the plate in the outfield needs to pick him up. Another guy I'm not sold on. There's a reason Cleveland let him walk and when you are protected in a lineup last year with Winker, Castellanos, Suarez, Votto, India & Stephenson, he saw some decent pitches to hit. Definitely not a guy to build around going forward.
The guy was amazing. If you saw him as a rookie you'd wonder why the Reds would want a 6th grader playing SS.
But he was very quick, had great ability to anticipate a ground ball/hop, strong arm and as he grew into his body he eventually developed some power. The Reds were willing to let him play thru mistakes/slumps and I think that gave him confidence. Really a good player, right there with Concepcion/Larkin as a MLB SS, maybe better.
Former Reds GM Jim Bowden believes Cincinnati should trade Castillo to Boston for Triston Casas & Bryan Bello, 2 of Boston's top prospects. Casas is intriguing, not familiar with Bello as much. I'm sure Krall & Dick Williams will let teams off with a B level prospect, a couple of C level and career minor league journeymen.
Reds fans have seen the past few series what MLB teams should look like. Teams like Dodgers, Braves and now Mets are teams Reds followers can only dream of. Reds have been relegated to hoping against hope they can build a team that can win 40% of their games. It's really pitiful and pathetic.
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