How about tax cuts, reduced federal spending, and a decrease in anti-business regulation (as compared to Biden era)? And forget the tariffs.
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Democrats burned crosses, today they burn car dealerships. Fascist parasites.
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"Tell them to get out there and SELL! SELL! SELL!..."
Universal Healthcare, now there's a proven failure to hang your hat on.
Just wow.
Why not do all of these AND tariffs?
Also, were you suggesting Mondale was against free trade or were you mistaken with the comment?
Tariffs aren't a tax cut, they're a tax increase on you and me.
As for actual tax cuts, I still don't see how ya'll think cutting revenue (tax cuts) will help us get out of the financial issues ya'll say we're in.
We need a balance between trying to increase revenue but also we need to cut spending. The problem that arises is trying to figure out what to cut. Cutting safety nets would only hurt this country in the long run. Millions of elderly folk rely on these safety nets to survive. Cutting them would only lead to trillions of dollars being removed from the economy.
An example that would lead to more SS funding would be to remove the cap on social security. Someone making 1m/year needs to pay Social Security tax on that entire amount rather than just the first 176k. (1m-176k) x 12.4% (6.2% from yourself and 6.2% from employer) is over 100k in taxes the govt is missing out on. That 100k could go back into the SS coffers and be redistributed amongst those in most need. I mean, I have plenty of money in my 30s, I'm not going to lose sleep over being taxed an extra 50k if I'm making 1m/year.
These tax cuts really only benefit the wealthy, those who already have more than enough money. Why give them more of it when that money can be used to benefit all of society? The new cuts that DT wants to pass, per Project2025, will basically be a tax hike for those making under 300k/year. The less you make the more you'll pay under his new tax plan.
I see that one went right over your head. Sorry about the haircut.
I don't work in construction, nor do I speculate. However, if these people do not wish to build houses that people can afford then don't cry like a little bitch when you go broke. Better?
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The poorest Americans don't even PAY Federal income taxes. Non-tax paying wage earners represent the majority in this country.
49 percent of the US workers pay 100 percent of the taxes. In fact, the poorest pay NEGATIVE taxes (because of tax credits.)
So when uninformed nitwits say that tax cuts only help the top 40 percent etc. it is a spurious argument, because they're THE ONLY ONES PAYING THE GD TAXES. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
It is beyond comprehension that this needs to be explained.
49 percent of the US workers pay 100 percent of the taxes. In fact, the poorest pay NEGATIVE taxes (because of tax credits.)
So when uninformed nitwits say that tax cuts only help the top 40 percent etc. it is a spurious argument, because they're THE ONLY ONES PAYING THE GD TAXES. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
It is beyond comprehension that this needs to be explained.
brian, good to see you.... Haven't seen you post anywhere on Cats Illustrated for quite some time. Hope all is well.
Are you including tariffs and taxes levied against us? Then I am listening.
Tariffs aren't a tax cut, they're a tax increase on you and me.
As for actual tax cuts, I still don't see how ya'll think cutting revenue (tax cuts) will help us get out of the financial issues ya'll say we're in.
We need a balance between trying to increase revenue but also we need to cut spending. The problem that arises is trying to figure out what to cut. Cutting safety nets would only hurt this country in the long run. Millions of elderly folk rely on these safety nets to survive. Cutting them would only lead to trillions of dollars being removed from the economy.
An example that would lead to more SS funding would be to remove the cap on social security. Someone making 1m/year needs to pay Social Security tax on that entire amount rather than just the first 176k. (1m-176k) x 12.4% (6.2% from yourself and 6.2% from employer) is over 100k in taxes the govt is missing out on. That 100k could go back into the SS coffers and be redistributed amongst those in most need. I mean, I have plenty of money in my 30s, I'm not going to lose sleep over being taxed an extra 50k if I'm making 1m/year.
These tax cuts really only benefit the wealthy, those who already have more than enough money. Why give them more of it when that money can be used to benefit all of society? The new cuts that DT wants to pass, per Project2025, will basically be a tax hike for those making under 300k/year. The less you make the more you'll pay under his new tax plan.
LOL, there you libs go again... citing a far left source. Do you know how these numbers were calculated?
The poorest actually have lower taxes under Trumps plan. They cede this truth.
But these idiots add the following costs: Tariff impact and loss of green credits.
LOL they use made up numbers to add to actual tax savings!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂
How willingly and quickly they forget they are the party of free trade and open borders, even though it flushed millions of jobs within a decade into other countries. Tariffs? Lol! THEY are GIVING MONEY to other countries hand over fist and are BTCHING and MOANING that the faucet they turned on was turned off, if only momentarily because of their lawfare.
No complaints from them about any of the fraud, the election law violations, the cheating, the beating, and all of the other abuses of conservatives and slightly pigmented people. Silence from the whores on the left as long as it's one or a group of their own. They are sick and degenerate losers that they refuse to stand against people being targeted for their skin color or their conservative stance on issues.
BUT, not only do they not stand AGAINST THE ABUSE AND FRAUD, they APPLAUD IT.
KNOW THIS, EVERYONE, ...not ONE of these deranged lunatics will lift a hand to stop you being abused on the street. Not one of them would prevent you from being robbed blind. They would be helping themselves to whatever you own because they are pieces of absolute garbage, not even able to condemn the rape of a child by an illegal or the murder of a "white" man by a someone who identifies as "black."
Nothing but evil in their hearts, and God knows it.
I have long way to go before I go broke, want to compare net worths and see which of us is more at risk?
Brother I am back, posted some on HOB, great to see you!
Because imports have to travel further than domestically produced goods to get to US consumers. Also total goods consumed goes down when prices go up. Less goods and less miles per good equals less transport.
I Googled ITEP.org, and according to Wikipedia: "The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy is a non-profit, Left-Leaning think tank that works on state and federal tax policy issues." LMAO.... not believing you.Tariffs aren't a tax cut, they're a tax increase on you and me.
As for actual tax cuts, I still don't see how ya'll think cutting revenue (tax cuts) will help us get out of the financial issues ya'll say we're in.
We need a balance between trying to increase revenue but also we need to cut spending. The problem that arises is trying to figure out what to cut. Cutting safety nets would only hurt this country in the long run. Millions of elderly folk rely on these safety nets to survive. Cutting them would only lead to trillions of dollars being removed from the economy.
An example that would lead to more SS funding would be to remove the cap on social security. Someone making 1m/year needs to pay Social Security tax on that entire amount rather than just the first 176k. (1m-176k) x 12.4% (6.2% from yourself and 6.2% from employer) is over 100k in taxes the govt is missing out on. That 100k could go back into the SS coffers and be redistributed amongst those in most need. I mean, I have plenty of money in my 30s, I'm not going to lose sleep over being taxed an extra 50k if I'm making 1m/year.
These tax cuts really only benefit the wealthy, those who already have more than enough money. Why give them more of it when that money can be used to benefit all of society? The new cuts that DT wants to pass, per Project2025, will basically be a tax hike for those making under 300k/year. The less you make the more you'll pay under his new tax plan.
So then tariffs, when you think about it, are actually a Green Initiative.
See? Trump IS looking out for the planet.
Maybe HE can get a token Nobel, to go along with Barry's.
They are a well known leftist org and have been for a long time. They fabricate numbers that are spewed by the left nonstop. They use a name that would seem politically ambiguous but they are a factory of fables & myths.
For the idiots spouting nonsense about "mcmansions" vs "starter homes"-
Do ANY of you idiots know what the cost of a 1/5 acre lot is these days?
At what price should a "starter home" be sold?
Give me some particulars of what you expect of a starter home to include in terms of SqFt, lot size, bedrooms and bathrooms, etc....
When you buy or sell something, because everyone is buying or selling something, do you leave any money on the table just to be magnanimous, or do you attempt to get every last dime you can?
Now I know you aren't ever truthful if you can help it, especially when it digs your ideological hole even deeper than it is already dug, but try to answer these questions truthfully and it should shut your ignorant assets up for a while.
Do ANY of you idiots know what the cost of a 1/5 acre lot is these days?
At what price should a "starter home" be sold?
Give me some particulars of what you expect of a starter home to include in terms of SqFt, lot size, bedrooms and bathrooms, etc....
When you buy or sell something, because everyone is buying or selling something, do you leave any money on the table just to be magnanimous, or do you attempt to get every last dime you can?
Now I know you aren't ever truthful if you can help it, especially when it digs your ideological hole even deeper than it is already dug, but try to answer these questions truthfully and it should shut your ignorant assets up for a while.
That is very funny, lol. I apologize for the departure of our liberal friends from the chat. This happens all too often when a hammer enters the room with a full load out of facts.
Yep. All of this. At LEAST 5-10% more expensive.
Well, if you're prone to reductionist thinking, I can see how someone might look at the tariff issue that narrowly.
Not the current world order. Earlier world order. We're not improving with current one.
I'm not big on bail. Keep the MFers locked up.
Well, damn.....there goes the GI Joe w/ the Kung Fu Grip I was going to get my nephew.
I’d be fine with that. I’m also fine trying to eliminate the income tax and move back to tariffs like Trump is doing.
I'd happy with just big spending cuts & some tax cuts. Reform SS & Medicare to begin with.
For the thousandth time, the strategy is pairing tariffs with income tax cuts.
The idea is decreased income taxes put money back in American pockets, yes some of that will go to tariffs, but companies will be incentivized manufacture products within our borders.
For Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, sure. For middle class folks who work for middle class wages, not so much
Let's do actual facts:
Importers pay tariff fees to the US Customs Agency. That money can absolutely be used to pay down debt.
Tariffs could and likely will raise prices on many items. However, competition will bring prices down to a competitive rate.
Tariffs will, and have already begun to, bring manufacturing to the US.
New manufacturers will purchase or lease land resulting in capital gains tax on the previous property owner or income tax if the property is leased.
Manufacturers will build or renovate facilities which will result in more payroll and income taxes from the contractors and the building suppliers.
These new manufacturers pay increased property tax.
Manufacturers hire employees who pay taxes and these manufacturers matches those taxes.
Manufacturers will purchase goods and supplies mostly from the US which increase revenues for suppliers who pay tax on that income and could hire more workers who pay income tax.
The manufacturers will pay income taxes to local, state and federal government.
Manufactures donate to the local community.
New suppliers often move to areas close to new manufacturers, they buy or lease property, they buy inventory, hire employees, and pay all the same taxes that the manufacturer does in the above content.
New manufacturers and suppliers increase job openings in an area which increases competition to acquire workers thus salaries and benefits usually rise in the entire area.
Understanding how taxes, business, and the economy work can be difficult for some.
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You're giving that barnacle too much credit. They're not doing any thinking.
They believe that housing illegals is insane but voted for others to do it.
They believe discovering and rooting out fraud is insane.
They believe tariffs are insane, but can't explain why every other country in the world (some of which are their ideological utopias) has higher tariffs against the US than we do against them.
They believe that protesting ALL police brutality is insane.
They believe that only some lives matter.
It's all cultic brainwashing. They don't think. They just repeat what they're told to repeat. They can't for a minute fathom that conservatives aren't listening to anyone for talking points, but actually using reason to understand how the world works.
They believe they're deceiving everyone, when it's just themselves they're deceiving. That's why they are so angry. They've hit their heads against their own cognitive dissonance and everyone else is to blame.
Imagine- just posting that particular post in the socialist utopia that is now the United Kingdom would get you prison time.
In a dream world, sure. In reality, doesn’t work that way, and it never will…so that entire shpiel and word salad is just a steaming hot plate of empty bs.
Yes, a bad economy is good for the environment. That does not mean we want a bad economy. Bad economies take away people’s livelihood. Already lots of struggling for that right now.
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