The same place I was when Hussein took in from $10T to $19T.
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The same place I was when Hussein took in from $10T to $19T.
About 40 years ago, we had a tornado warning in our county. I wanted to see it, so I climbed up on the roof of my house for a better view. Cop car drove down the street with his loud speaker urging everyone to take cover. I hid behind my chimney so he couldn’t see this idiot on the roof. Never saw the tornado.
Just look up project 2025, they want to reduce our tax brackets to 2 income brackets. One at 15% and the other at 30%. Go to page 696.
"Intermediate Tax Reform. The Treasury should work with Congress to simplify the tax code by enacting a simple two-rate individual tax system of 15 percent and 30 percent that eliminates most deductions, credits and exclusions. The 30percent bracket should begin at or near the Social Security wage base [ 168,000 in 2024] to ensure the combined income and payroll tax structure acts as a nearly flat tax on wage income beyond the standard deduction. "
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
There are currently two brackets below 15%, 10% and 12% with the 12% bracket ending at 47k/year.
So if you're making 40k/year with the new plan you'll be paying 15% which last time I checked was higher than 10 and 12.
Just because something is a left wing think tank doesn't mean they're wrong.
1:1 of how the cultists want this thread to be.
We would ABSOLUTELY LOVE it if the Democrats would scatter like they did in this video clip. The Democrats burned crosses, churches, people, and even set off a bomb in the Capitol building. They have now moved on to cars, dealerships, and cities (not in that order of course). Yall really would light your own house on fire if the party told you to do so.
Then they scream about the economy, jobs, and the environment while they watch it all burn. They're not JUST stupid. They're mentally ill.
(Don't worry Democrat's. We know you still burn churches, too.)
I have seen 3 in my life and I would not recommend it to anyone who can avoid it. 1 was far enough away where I felt safe but the other 2 were near hits but saw enough to know that I would rather not see anymore for the rest of my life.
Im not paid enough to educate folks on here.
DuringPresident Trump’s 1st term, the gross national debt grew from $19.95 trillion to $27.75 trillion – a $7.8 trillion increase (debt held by the public – the more economically-meaningful measure of debt – grew by $7.2 trillion over this period). However, much of this borrowing was due to policies put in place before Trump took office or due to unexpected changes in circumstance. Debt was already projected to grow by about $3 trillion before he was elected. A large amount of the additional debt accrued was also the direct result of COVID. It’s also important to note that the government was holding an unusually large $1.6 trillion in cash when Trump left office, which inflated the growth in debt relative to the deficit run during his 1st term.
The Left does this so often, just like the lie, "good people on both sides".
Donald Trump Disavows Project 2025
"I'm not an extremist at all," says Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. He disavows Project 2025, saying the authors of the text are part of the far-right.
www.c-span.org
Wrenchhead demonstrating he doesn't know what a word salad is... priceless. Must have voted for Kamala WordSalad Harris. He's the poster child for the liberal ideology, "Words mean whatever I want them to mean." His tantrum should follow shortly, if it hasn't already begun
Bud, they've already implemented over 40% of Project 2025. Educate yourself.The Left does this so often, just like the lie, "good people on both sides".
Donald Trump Disavows Project 2025
"I'm not an extremist at all," says Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump. He disavows Project 2025, saying the authors of the text are part of the far-right.www.c-span.org
https://www.project2025.observer/
Added: Also the "good people on both sides" wasn't a lie. It's like the saying goes, if you're at a table of 10 people and 1 is a Nazi, how many Nazis are at the table? 10.
Trump said "good people on both sides" and then proceeded to say he wasn't talking about the neo nazis and what not. But here's the thing, that entire rally started as a Neo Nazi rally. Protestors came the following day to protest. If you were protesting on the same side as said neo nazis, then you're a neo nazi.
Idc if trump said he wasn't talking about them.
I helped 25,000 people with free or reduced expungements and pardons that enabled them to get jobs and restore their rights. I helped a minister in West Virginia acquire a federal pardon from George W Bush for $75, the going rate then was about $150,000.
I sold that business for a profit, I know that eats at you.
I also have other businesses. Been self employed since I served in the Gulf War. You want to google me yet you use an anonymous name. So lets be men here and you share your name so we can check out your history.
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Of course they have. Project 2025 was written by some Republicans, there will be some shared values. Heck, dismantling the Dept of Education has been a bipartisan idea for a long time.
Bud you cannot be that dense. Ross Vought is literally on Trump's staff and was one of the architects of Project 2025.
That link I linked has the sources if you want to click through each position.
I was in one but never "saw it" as it came within a few feet of our house when lightning lit it up at about 2am. All I could see was a wall of water outside the house on both sides and could hear nothing but the sound of the tornado. Like being inside the horn of a freight train for what seemed like forever.
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A friend of mine was leaving Minneapolis headed to Illinois, trying to stay ahead of a strong storm front. Got caught in traffic and then stuck in the front edge of the storm. He told me he was the passenger in a red muscle car of some kind with mostly bald tires riding the rear of a semi so they could see for a while.
Anyway, that storm produced the first, live broadcast footage of a tornado, and itself one of the most interesting tornado stories as well.
(Edit) Summary: 1989- Minnesota man gets a phone call from his father warning him about an approaching twister during rush hour(s) traffic. Man tells his father, "Yeah, I'm watching it live on tv..." His dad is like, "Hey, dumbask, the tornado is headed for your subdivision/house, look out the frickn window!" Which he does and sees it about to run over his house. Line goes dead and his dad thinks he lost a son.
Turns out the son just managed to grab his dog and dive into the bathroom, grabbing hold of the plumbing while his house gets torn down around him, his dog bites him and runs away. After the tornado passes, supposedly all that's left is his bathroom and a linen closet next to that. Can't find his dog. Neighborhood is devastated. Hears barking coming from somewhere in the now obliterated house and starts digging for his dog. Can't find him, but realizes the sound is coming from near the bathroom. Prys open the closet door and there is his little dog stuck up on the upper shelf of the linen closet.
Almost killed by watching and yet also saved by his dad seeing the first live tornado broadcast. Crazy story. Wish I could still find a link to the news article and/or video interviews, which I only heard/saw about 10 years after the fact. My friends brother told him the story when he got back to Illinois. We verified it because we both thought in hindsight his brother was full of sht.
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So just allow and accept other countries, including many that compete directly with us in a number of markets, to impose tariffs that are in most instances far higher than what we impose on them for the same goods?
That is a blatant lie. People from the The Monument Fund and the Virginia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans were there opposing the Charlottesville City Council's ruling to take down statues, these are bunch of senior citizens. The Unite the Right was the nazi group who were the ones that showeed up with torches. Trump was explicit in stating he opposed them.
Do better.
I am fully aware but you, like many liberals, are suggesting that it his handbook. The fact that Project 2025 has many conservative views should not be surprising.
Let's discuss each of those policies that have gone into effect and see how many you disagree with and how many I am able to justify?
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Lets start with this one:
Abolishing up the Department of Education.
The disastrous failings of students since the inception of the Dept of Ed are indisputable.
Radical changes to Title IX - they wanted to redefine the word "sex" with "sexual orientation" to allow men in girls spaces & sports.
They wanted to shift the burden of student loans from the borrower to taxpayers.
Their FASA application for student loans was unusable.
Bad teachers are not held accountable.
Billions are wasted on bureaucracy instead of of the schools themselves.
I posted this earlier. You should read it. Might be informative, you might just blow it off, but the numbers are accurate and I have a degree in economics. I don’t have a hard time understanding international trade, financial markets, money and banking, any of it. I get paid quite well to understand these things for my employer. I know that probably makes me an idiot or an untrusted expert in many people’s eyes, but I’m trying to help here. We don’t have the capacity to compete these costs away.
Anyway long winded post from this morning below here
US Imports in 2024 were $4.1 trillion $’s (link below)
U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, December and Annual 2024 | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
The U.S. Census Bureau and the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis announced today that the goods and services deficit was $98.4 billion in December, up $19.5 billion from $78.9 billion in November, revised.www.bea.gov
US GDP is about 26% of the worlds GDP and Imports are about 15% of US GDP so US Imports are about (15% of 26%) 4% of the total world economy.
If we assume that every worker produces the same amount of GDP worldwide we can multiply that by 4% by the number of workers employed worldwide to figure out how many additional workers would be needed to bring home all of the US Import business. This is likely an underestimate however because many of the things we import are cheap but labor intensive stuff, the most obvious example being apparel (clothing and shoes).
Anyway Google says there are about 3.5 billion people working globally. 4% of 3.5 billion is 140 million workers,working globally to produce the imports that we import each year.
US Population right now is 340 million, 163 million of which are currently employed. Of the remaining 177 million, 59 million are retired and 73.6 million are children. So that leaves 44.4 million working age non employed adults in the US.
If we onshore a job for all 44.4 million of those people we would still need 96 million people’s worth of work to match those imports. That means on at least 2/3 of those imported products, US consumers will have to pay the full price of the tariffs on those imports. We will also have to pay higher prices for all of the stuff that does onshore, because if it was currently price competitive it would already be made here.
If we don’t have workers to produce the stuff we’re currently importing then we pay the tariff. The only way to not pay the tariff is to not buy the good. So long run tariffs can only equal higher prices and/or less stuff. That means tariffs lower the quality of life in the long run for the country implementing them.
All of this assumes no retaliation on our exports because if people also stop buying our stuff (most certainly to happen) then we get that negative impact long term as well. Tariffs shrink the pie plain and simple.
Its the weave not word salad. It's much more sophisticated and easier to turn your brain off believe when you call it the weave.
You're missing the nuance. The following day you had both the Unite the Right and the group protesting the tearing down of the statues, both protesting from the same side.
Ask yourself why people like David Duke are now Republicans. Ask yourself why Neo-Nazis vote Conservative. Ask yourself why when Elon did that salute that while conservatives downplayed it, neo-nazis embraced it. Ask yourself why dictators around the world love Trump.
If I'm on a side with all of those folk I would start questioning my position.
Ask yourself what the "good people" were protesting, they were against the tearing down of Confederate statues. Why would your protest that? They committed treason against the USA when they fired on Fort Sumter. They say heritage but like why would you be proud that your ancestors fought for a treasonous nation.
Ask yourself who 1920s-1940s Germany got their ideas from. They used 1800s America as a reference to what they wanted to accomplish. They used the Jim Crow laws of America as influence.
There's so much overlap between the two, the neo-nazis and the statue protestors, that why Trump was clearly talking about the former, you could argue that that doesn't matter.
https://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stories/germanys-nostalgia-antebellum-american-south/
I know you say they're two different groups and they are but there's overlap between the two. Hence why I mentioned the 1 Nazi at a table quote.
Cut budget of USAID. Lol, the level of pathetic programs and outright fraud...?
Ban "critical race theory" from public school curriculum. It is a lie, a damn lie, and harmful.
Enforce the Hyde amendment (banning any federal funds from being used for abortions, abortion counseling, etc.). Why do you want taxpayers paying for abortions?
Expand school choice (i.e. public funding for private schools). Why are you against poor kids and black kids going to better schools?
Reinstate Return to Mexico policy. Who in the world is against this?
"Prohibit the U.S. government from combating the spread of misinformation and disinformation." Yeah. like the Biden admin by attacking free speech on social media. Im guessing you loved that?
Your list has so many, let's go! You will either become a Republican or jump off a building by the time I go through it with you.
Guess what zippy....the economy didn't get this way since Jan 20th. It has been a melting pot for the last few years and people have been indoctrinated w/ the same old BS. Enter someone who wants to look at the books, and damn, things need to be changed and your freebies of the last few years will now cost a bit more for a while until things are fixed.
Newsflash...the number of SNAP and governmental assistance recipients rose significantly under Biden.
Now tell me why it is a bad idea to move pharmaceuticals to the US - we literally make none.
Tell me why it is a bad idea to move chip manufacturing to the US. It is critical for infrastructure, the economy and the military.
Tell me why you are against bringing hundreds of thousands of jobs and the resources that go with it to our communities, as well as all the taxes that will be paid to local, state and federal government.
"expand school choice (i.e. public funding for private schools). Why are you against poor kids and black kids going to better schools?"
school choice only benefits the wealthy and in no way benefits the poor.
Rich people can already afford to go to private schools. School choice will use public funding to give to these rich folk to pay for said schools.
Let's say the voucher is 10k and the school costs 30k/year. The rich person, who can already afford to pay 30k, will only have to pay 20k for schooling.
The poor/middle class Americans would have to pay 20k to go to those schools, something they literally cannot afford.
The taxes we already pay now that allow kids to go to school for "free" will be used for these voucher programs. The rich would be even farther ahead while the everyday American will be further behind.
So it's you that's against kids having better schooling, not me. If you were for better schooling you'd find a way to better distribute money into poor areas so their institution will be stronger.
Most people making under $40k have little to no federal tax liability. Mitt Romney didn't exactly run a stellar campaign but he was right about the fact that just about the population pays federal income tax while the other half doesn't.
For the record I'm perfectly fine with most of what I've read and heard about Project 2025. I do know that the country would benefit immensely from a simplified tax code.
I’m not against cutting costs. I’m not against cutting taxes.
Thisbtariff policy is stupid and self destructive. I explained above why we the people of the US are going to eat the vast majority of all of these tariffs as higher prices. My estimate is a one time 5%-20% cost increase on all products that are currently imported which would net out to a 2%-3% one time bump to inflation. The harder part to forecast is how much retaliatory tariffs from trade partners hits our exports. I think we could see a 2%-5% total reduction in GDP over the next two years. The last time that happened was 2008. Reductions in GdP generally cause credit crises because debt does not get reduced when income does and most consumers debt load is predicated on them having more income in the future not less. Hence when GDP shrinks a bunch of people start foreclosing.
Lol, John Authers is simply pointing out that some countries are very poor. Using this as an example as to why we shouldn't use tariffs is comical.
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I’m not against that. We are a net exporter of pharmaceuticals already. The drugs we import are like blood pressure medication and cholesterol medication that cost $5 a month. The drugs we export are stuff like Mounjaro, cancer treatments, antiviral medications, and specialty medications that cost $1000’s per month. We don’t want to onshore the production of $5 generics while other countries start building their own companies to make their own drugs that cost $1000’s per month. That is what tariffs incetivize long term.
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ask why KY voted against school choice
https://www.wsaz.com/2024/11/06/kentucky-voters-reject-school-choice-ballot-measure/
Neo-Nazis are NOT exclusive to the far left, that's true. Neo-Nazis infiltrated the R party to try to change it, since they couldn't beat it with the left. Republicans supported and passed every major piece of equality legislation that the Democrats fought tooth and nail. Couldn't win.
What would you do if your party wasn't able to keep segregation and stop minorities from voting, issues you staunchly support? Take it up the tailpipe or try to compromise the side that beat you like a rented mule?
If a sworn Nazi, communist, or felonious child abuser suddenly declared they'd seen the light and "became a Christian," I'd not buy into it, make sure they accepted any criminal sentences they'd deserve, and watch them like a frickn hawk for a while. I certainly wouldn't be picketing for their voting rights to be restored or let them near my children.
I'm not so simple as to think some one IS ANYTHING simply because they say they are, nor will I exempt them simply because of what they say they believe or how they vote. That's the difference between conservatives and liberals. Liberals don't care what people do as long as they vote liberal. They can steal billions and liberals don't care as long as the thieves support killing babies and fund virtue signaling issues like "climate change."
What would you do if your party wasn't able to keep segregation and stop minorities from voting, issues you staunchly support? Take it up the tailpipe or try to compromise the side that beat you like a rented mule?
If a sworn Nazi, communist, or felonious child abuser suddenly declared they'd seen the light and "became a Christian," I'd not buy into it, make sure they accepted any criminal sentences they'd deserve, and watch them like a frickn hawk for a while. I certainly wouldn't be picketing for their voting rights to be restored or let them near my children.
I'm not so simple as to think some one IS ANYTHING simply because they say they are, nor will I exempt them simply because of what they say they believe or how they vote. That's the difference between conservatives and liberals. Liberals don't care what people do as long as they vote liberal. They can steal billions and liberals don't care as long as the thieves support killing babies and fund virtue signaling issues like "climate change."
I had a cousin that worked for Ford, and he was able to get a substantial discount. If it’s the same plan as that it’d be hard to turn down.
Lol this is a very stupid argument that will only backfire in your face.
Who was the group that stopped free speech before starting WW2? The fascists right? Who are those opposing free speech on campuses and on social media? The Democrats. So all Dems are fascist?
Who were opposed to abolishing slavery and created the KKK? The Democrats, so all Dems are racist?
The idiotic argument that historians, or those that want to preserve history, are nazi's is just one of the reasons why the Democratic party is at a 21% approval rating. I cant get over the absolute stupidity of comparing a bunch of elderly people to skinheads.
Your party is vandalizing peoples cars and burning down dealerships. Thus all Dems are pieces of crap and domestic terrorists?
Your party wants to go into little girls bathrooms, so all Dems are pedophiles and weirdos...?
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Bud, the Democrats aren't that party any more. It would be like you saying "Who was the group that led the Axis Powers" as an argument to say Germany of today is somehow bad.
Guessing cause you don’t understand economics, you can’t fathom that other people are actually smart enough to figure this out by themselves. That’s understandable.
