This is patently false, and you're a hand-wringing simpleton. Go breathe into a paper bag, and take the day off.We could be 45T to 50T in debt by 2029 and y'all won't say a thing. It's only when a dem is in office that y'all go nuts.
This is patently false, and you're a hand-wringing simpleton. Go breathe into a paper bag, and take the day off.We could be 45T to 50T in debt by 2029 and y'all won't say a thing. It's only when a dem is in office that y'all go nuts.
I was 4 1/2...I don't remember shit about it. I was too busy winding up Evil Knievel or looking through the bionic mans magnifying eye.I was almost nine (an important distinction at that age). We lived on Riverside Drive in Augusta (KY) and I remember setting on the front porch watching the storms come up the river and on the other side.
You are right, it was surreal.
I believe that @HymanKaplan sees the world like this...Me liking this post while I eat bananas counting how many were in the bunch using my fingers and toes and looking confused saying: Wha wha What? Of course, that still makes me smarter than a dim so...
Then why complain? Oh, I forgot, TDS. That and you still don't understand what is going on.I forgot all of that. Congrats, I guess - you predicted that Trump would cause a stock market crash and you might be right. But what I don't understand is why anyone would be happy about that. Unless you don't have any retirement investments and just want to stick it to people who do.
Another thing I don't understand is that some of you equate being against Trump's tariffs as being "liberal". But true left wingers should be in favor of this too - particularly organized labor. Mondale would have been for this in 84 while Reagan would have been completely opposed.
Better seek some cover, I heard the sky is heavy with all of those carbon emissions.Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad, Tariffs are good, tariffs are bad.
Here is a fact.....we won't know the end result of this for some time now.....months, maybe a year or so, and given where we were on the global economic stage the last 4 years, that could not continue in a business as usual fashion.
Then where were ya'll in 2017 to 2020 when debt increased by 40%? It increased by 30% under Biden and y'all had a cow.This is patently false, and you're a hand-wringing simpleton. Go breathe into a paper bag, and take the day off.
Keep doing your thing but these folk won't believe ya. In the words of @Craftydragon he'll rather trust billionaires than some liberal on RR. Eventhough literally everything you posit is on point.Total US economic loss of all tariffs is equal to this:
1.
100% of the tariffs on any good we continue to import. My main category here is apparel. We would have to tariff clothing and shoes at like 400% to onshore those industries so where these things are made is just going to shift from one tariffed country to another to get the lowest rate applied. That also means we do not have onshore capabilities so we will bear 100% of the tariffs in a price increase.
Example:
Let’s consider a $100 pair of Nike’s made in Vietnam. The imported cost of that shoe is around $20. So a 46% tariff will make that $29.20. That means our new price at retail is $109.20 so we end up paying 10% more for every $100 worth of Nike’s we got before the tariff. Nike’s would cost $80-$100 to produce in the US and would be well over $200 at retail if made in the US so the tariff will just be paid by us and nothing changes in this industry.
2.
100% of the cost difference between domestic and foreign production of any good that we onshore production for. If this tariff makes the manufacturer onshore it means that the product costs less than the foreign cost plus the tariff but assuming importers were behaving rationally prior to tariffs the cost of foreign production without a tariff was less than US production. So whatever that difference is we have to pay for.
Example:
A Kia costs $10,000 to make in South Korea, now they have a 25% tariff so the cost is now $12,500 to get that vehicle into the US. If Kia can make it in the US for $11,500 they will onshore that production. Unfortunately US consumers will still have to bear the $1500 cost difference.
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The difference in the amount of good we could consume with these extra prices and the amount of goods we will be able to consume without these extra these prices. A tariff is not going to raise your pay. So if you have $20,000 on discretionary money to spend today and cars and shoes and clothes and fruit and vegetables are all more expensive you will have to consume less with your $20,000 so your quality of life will go down .
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Loss of sales for any US exporter exposed to retaliatory tariffs by foreign governments. All of this will offset any gains in US employment and many of our exports involve highly skilled labor. So tariffs lower the amount of high skilled jobs for US workers and increase the number of low skilled jobs for US workers.
I know the first argument to this will be extra money for workers here. Yes that’s true but the rest of us are paying that in higher prices so tariffs are effectively a transfer of money and goods from everyone to the people who will now be employed in the US that were not employed or were underemployed prior to the tariffs. Also the net size of the pie over the long run gets smaller.
I said debt. Deficit spending is not the same as national debt.You're just making stuff up. Nobody on here celebrates deficit spending. Are you drunk?
Funny you should post this. My wife and I were just discussing this last night. I personally don't own stock. She does and has invested and is teaching my daughter to invest her money in stocks. They have done pretty good so far and of course my wife will not sell either. It is suckers like that who are the ones those in the stock market who make money like.You’re a fool if you sell today. If you’re in a position where you need that cash today, you’re a fool for being that exposed to equities.
Well, those numbers are false. Milwaukee had around 30K more votes than Dane did. Not to mention Dane people don't have a life. But make yourself feel good calling a 10% loss as ballot box stuffing. It's a Club MAGA go to feel good emotion over getting off their a$$es and actually voting.Hmmmm. Has anyone heard about this?
May have to hit pause a couple times to read it...
Dow down 1400. Many investors will start to pull back now. Too many unknowns about price of goods.
Funny you should post this. My wife and I were just discussing this last night. I personally don't own stock. She does and has invested and is teaching my daughter to invest her money in stocks. They have done pretty good so far and of course my wife will not sell either. It is suckers like that who are the ones those in the stock market who make money like.
They also voted for lower inflation.
Regardless, the country is much better off with Trump than Harris.None of you guys were talking this way last fall. It was all about how great Trump’s economy was and how the Biden economy would improve right away if Trump was elected. Now you’re saying we need to go into a recession (on purpose) so things will improve at some point in the future.
What makes those "sources" any more trustworthy than the ones who show the math is right?I think there are many sources out there this morning showing Trump’s math is wrong. His tariff rates are that countries trade surplus with US divided by that countries exports to the US. That’s not a tariff rate. That’s a metric that means nothing other than that country produces good much more cheaply than the US.
Oh....they were doing SOMETHING. Spending money we didn't have.At least someone has the nuts to try and forestall the complete collapse that was destined to come in short order. I do have concerns. I don't know if this will work, but I do know that congress is doing nothing, and that is what got us 37T in debt to start with.
They also voted for lower inflation.
The facts have been checked.🤣What makes those "sources" any more trustworthy than the ones who show the math is right?
Plenty of time to sit and type I suppose. 😵💫370 billion a year in tariffs on US Exports globally.
50 billion a year in tariffs on Foreign imports into the US.
That math isn't complicated.
I'm cranky today, because it's colonoscopy prep day, so you bastards had better tread lightly. LOL
Plenty of time to sit and type I suppose. 😵💫
You don't even know what my original point is. You just write this stuff for "like" clicks as nobody knows wtf you're talking about.Bro
You really love hearing yourself type.
You may be right, but vearing off your original point is a hallmark of your chirping.
Carry on.
Make America Great Again!
Never miss a vote.
First of all, the "tariffs charged to the U.S." on the chart he presented is literally the trade deficit we have with the country. So that fact alone means what he is presenting is false. Look at the 90% example below.What makes those "sources" any more trustworthy than the ones who show the math is right?
So what should Congress have done by now?Keeping the gubmint running is a yawner.
Nothing changes ever.
Not only not a big deal, but big effin deal, no.
OK, so some voted. Net form that, your claim is that 10% of WI voters were illegals & thus won the election for Dims? You really going to stand by that silly sh!t? If not, what's that got to do with Dims winning?Illegals dont get to vote. Duh.
It is now proven that the do / have.
All is well here at the Welder's household! My son is getting ready to leave for class and he just told me that he heard my phone going off nearly all night due to a severe weather alert. The first time I heard it is when I awoke at 0630, lol.Roll Call....You guys make through the storms?
OK, so some voted. Net form that, your claim is that 10% of WI voters were illegals & thus won the election for Dims? You really going to stand by that silly sh!t? If not, what's that got to do with Dims winning?
Recall driving down I71 from Cincy a month or two later. A wide (1/2 mile?) swath of downed trees crossed 71 thru a forested area in Oldham. Was unbelievable. I was at work when these occurred, but DW took photos from our apartment balcony of actual funnel clouds. We still have somewhere. Son was 6 mo. old.Tomorrow marks the start of the anniversary of the greatest tornado outbreak in Kentucky history. April 3 , 1974
I was 11 and it was surreal.
Builders employ a lot of people and provide a lot of inventory for homebuyers.My heart bleeds for spec builders.
Which is why I have no clue how they'll turn out - good/bad/indifferent. So waiting and seeing. But sure gives short-term ammo to opponents to blame them for any ill-economic changes.Trying to explain tariffs and their myriad uses/circumstances to some people on here is like trying to teach a monkey differential mathematics.
Well they ain't doing 10% cheating.Illegals aside, it's f***ing Wisconsin, who KNOWS what those weirdos are going to do election to election.
Builders employ a lot of people and provide a lot of inventory for homebuyers.
Who does your heart bleed for?