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How will they rule ??!

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Their best argument is him directly financially benefitting from usaid but not recusing himself from the case and ruling for usaid. That's a slam dunk.
The grifter billionaire was being investigated by USAID. Corrupt as hell administration.
Meanwhile, not a mention of Musk's billions in government contracts in DOGE.


 
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The grifter billionaire was being investigated by USAID. Corrupt as hell administration.
Meanwhile, not a mention of Musk's billions in government contracts in DOGE.




Investigated by USAID lol
 
Trump is a loser so I guess by his logic that means he is also woke? LMAO! ****ing moron
Back in the real world.

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The grifter billionaire was being investigated by USAID. Corrupt as hell administration.
Meanwhile, not a mention of Musk's billions in government contracts in DOGE.



Im sure they investigated him lol. His starlink gave people unrestricted Internet in places our shadow government didn't want people to have it. What a crime.

Also its pretty clear that anyone on the opposite side of usaid is probably the good guys.
 
And we'll always have immigrants....legally, visa's, etc. The general admission ticket has been revoked and you now have to get a reserved seat.

Moron.
You're the clueless moron. If you think 200 immigrants a day will support our social security and economy you are dumber than I ever imagined.


Zero birth rate.
 
Similar to that point, could you imagine being this new Farm75 guy, starting to post, then seeing sambowieshin is lockstep in agreement with everything you say?

Hopefully he has enough self awareness to reevaluate his entire life.
We all know he’s a sock account, and I gave him a fair shot, but the sh*t-spamming links from leftist outlets and continual goal-post-moving of his claims already got too old for me.

As an aside, I’ll never get why people use multiple sock accounts. I hope they are getting paid for sh*t spamming from each one, but if not, then they VASTLY overrate their intellectual ability to fake others into thinking their some moderate just moseying on by to see what’s happening on the Paddock.
 
I wouldn’t cover doge savings yet as a mass media. since every non partisan fact checking has found massive amounts inconsistencies it just flat out lies.
The largest item on the intial list wasn’t even vetter
Correctly and was in the millions of dollars instead of billions.

When there is material of substance, the “mainstream” media will cover it in depth. That will be for sure.
Non partisan fact checkers, HA!
There is no such thing.
 
We all know he’s a sock account, and I gave him a fair shot, but the sh*t-spamming links from leftist outlets and continual goal-post-moving of his claims already got too old for me.

As an aside, I’ll never get why people use multiple sock accounts. I hope they are getting paid for sh*t spamming from each one, but if not, then they VASTLY overrate their intellectual ability to fake others into thinking their some moderate just moseying on by to see what’s happening on the Paddock.
You Trump sock puppets still believing that Zelenskyy is a dictator and Putin is your Russian savior??

 
The vast majority of the people there prior to 2014 would've preferred to be a part of a RUssia, or were at best indifferent. They were not Ukrainian nationalists like in the western part.

Defending democracy is denying them the right of self-determination.




It's always been the case that Russia would never allow NATO to take SE Ukraine and Crimea, where they have their primary naval base, and that the only way we were expelling Russia out of Ukraine was through NATO troops. The "idea" was maybe we'd get lucky and Putin would get deposed by oligarchs, sending the country into turmoil and possible collapse, all while massive profits were being made by the MIC as non-NATO troops were doing all the dying.

It was all win/win for everyone involved except the Ukrainian soldier, sent to die not for his country, but to pad the pockets of their oligarchs prostituting themselves to Western geopolitical interests.

Exactly.

No one wants to address that, but it's true. Since 2014, the only way democracy returns to the region is if those who want to be independent are allowed to be independent, and if those who don't want NATO to cause their sons to die (which may be too late already) can be free of NATO and related influence. All of the deaths are for nought but the financial gain of corrupt officials, bureaucrats, oligarchs, and their families.
 
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I’ll believe it when I see it, and even if they do release the list, I don’t think anyone of significance will be prosecuted. They will say something like “we don’t have actual evidence of any wrong doings” or “we can’t prove the escort wasn’t of legal age”. May get lots of smoke and mirrors, but these people aren’t going to be punished. Just how DC works, unfortunately.
 
Where did this Farmy guy come from?
Obviously he's someone that's on here, or been on here, with a changed name. Never heard of him but when I started reading some posts from this morning (haven't got to last night's yet), when someone replied to him or quoted him it showed that he/she was on my 'ignored content'.
 
Re: Ukraine giving up the Russian nukes they didn't control.

"While all these weapons were located on Ukrainian territory, they were not under Ukraine's control. In 1994, Ukraine agreed to transfer these weapons to Russia for dismantlement and became a party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, in exchange for economic compensation and assurances from Russia, the United States and United Kingdom to respect the Ukrainian independence and sovereignty in the existing borders."

By instigating and financing the Maidan Revolution, the US, UK, and NATO breached this agreement. They directly influenced politics and compromised their sovereignty from 2012 onward. 10 years of that before Russia went into Ukraine. What incited the "revolution" was western money, that really flooded the country in late 2013.

Why?

Because the EU offered a broke Ukraine 613M in loans and Russia offered 15B in loans. When the leader of Ukraine realized the EU wasn't going to step up their offer, he didn't sign their ridiculously low deal. 6m later the western money overthrew the govt, and installed someone they could control, who started shelling Donbas to force Russia into a conflict.

That conflict allowed the corrupt, puppet govt of Ukraine to get BILLIONS of US TAXPAYER DOLLARS for FREE without it being A LOAN, while we pay FCKN INTEREST on the money. And all of the rubes on the left sucked that teet and handed over our future to pay for it.
 
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Rules for us vs rules for them
I can tell you're new here. You all have the same stench of desperate bravado about you.

Your ignorance of those you think you're targeting here is laughable. If you would take time to research this thread (we already realize that research isn't a strong point of the left) the majority sentiment of the conservatives here is that Gov't dirt is all dirt, arrest them all, party be damned. You won't find this level of candor or equal treatment amongst your ilk. I promise.

Have a seat in the corner. Your words are already wasted here and it only took you a page and 1 night of posting to accomplish that feat. Bravo.
 
We all know he’s a sock account, and I gave him a fair shot, but the sh*t-spamming links from leftist outlets and continual goal-post-moving of his claims already got too old for me.

As an aside, I’ll never get why people use multiple sock accounts. I hope they are getting paid for sh*t spamming from each one, but if not, then they VASTLY overrate their intellectual ability to fake others into thinking their some moderate just moseying on by to see what’s happening on the Paddock.

They vastly overestimate themselves in all areas. It's their achilles heal.
Exactly.

No one wants to address that, but it's true. Since 2014, the only way democracy returns to the region is if those who want to be independent are allowed to be independent, and if those who don't want NATO to cause their sons to die (which may be too late already) can be free of NATO and related influence. All of the deaths are for nought but the financial gain of corrupt officials, bureaucrats, oligarchs, and their families.

They don't understand anything about that part of the world and are therefore rife for manipulation.

No one, well almost no one, would actually support this war if they understood why it was actually being waged and how easily it could've been avoided.

Trump is right: it should've never been allowed to happen.

I saw Zel bitching in a recent address to EU members that if they didn't let them in NATO (which let's be real here, was always a dangling carrot we never intended to follow through upon), he would be forced to form his own NATO to "defend democracy" 🤦‍♂️ [laughing]😯
 
I get the distinct feeling you’re just here to argue or try and play contrarian. Seems like we’ve had a few other users in the past who enjoyed doing the same thing.

As for Trump, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows he’s quite prone to hyperbole, so when he said he’d end the war in a few weeks or whatever it was, I think most knew it wouldn't be done in a few weeks. But he does seem closer to ending it than our last President got in four years. Though based on the comments I’ve read from you tonight, you’d just say that Trump simply appeased Russia (or did what Putin wanted him to) if the war ended tomorrow.
He reeks of it.

However, catching up on the thread, he's not very good at it and has already been properly owned several times.

They're all the exact same mentality. Looking for a new place to daily beatings.
 
The vast majority of the people there prior to 2014 would've preferred to be a part of a RUssia, or were at best indifferent. They were not Ukrainian nationalists like in the western part.

Defending democracy is denying them the right of self-determination.

Absolutely. Its why usaid had to buy their media and pay millions to social media influencers, with burisma running point. That way they could execute a coup with a rental riot, which is exactly how we got Z.

Its all about the natural resources and inability to control putin. Since usaid cant control him, because he locks out us social media and "humanitarian aid", they decided to try starving him out by cutting off his gas exports. Even went so far as to destroy the Russian gas pipeline, which was an act of war tbh.

Its insane how power hungry our shadow government was.
 
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I can tell you're new here. You all have the same stench of desperate bravado about you.

Your ignorance of those you think you're targeting here is laughable. If you would take time to research this thread (we already realize that research isn't a strong point of the left) the majority sentiment of the conservatives here is that Gov't dirt is all dirt, arrest them all, party be damned. You won't find this level of candor or equal treatment amongst your ilk. I promise.

Have a seat in the corner. Your words are already wasted here and it only took you a page and 1 night of posting to accomplish that feat. Bravo.
My words were wasted on many before I posted, the desire for discussion is absent from a lot on here. I’ve yet to talk down or devalue any else’s point of view but you’re so quick too.
I’m sure any dissent from the echo chambers sounds like @PhDcat2018 aaking questions about stoops oline recruiting 4-5 years ago.
 
I get the distinct feeling you’re just here to argue or try and play contrarian. Seems like we’ve had a few other users in the past who enjoyed doing the same thing.

As for Trump, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows he’s quite prone to hyperbole, so when he said he’d end the war in a few weeks or whatever it was, I think most knew it wouldn't be done in a few weeks. But he does seem closer to ending it than our last President got in four years. Though based on the comments I’ve read from you tonight, you’d just say that Trump simply appeased Russia (or did what Putin wanted him to) if the war ended tomorrow.
Contrarian: Not apologizing for Putin & not caring that he does whatever he wants. Opposite of isolationist Fortress America.
 
Didn't Zelensky arrest politicians, as well as clergy, and journalists?

Its called "transitional justice" and its right out of the usaid post coup/stolen election blueprint. Its intended to make sure the unfriendly leaders dont pose a challenge in the next election.

They buy prosecutors and judges with their "outreach" programs. Then the cia hacks, buys, or fakes intel against the outgoing politicians. Then feed it to the occrp for attack stories. Then the friendly prosecutors pick up the cases and file them before friendly judges. Bam, problem solved.

Its one thing to do this in other countries, but its infuriating to see this exact same blueprint followed here the moment trump won in 2015.
 
He reeks of it.

However, catching up on the thread, he's not very good at it and has already been properly owned several times.

They're all the exact same mentality. Looking for a new place to daily beatings.
Democrats are fine with the daily intellectual beatdowns on here, given the fact that the vast majority are nothing but losers in life anyway.
 
Has anyone bothered to ask, why did Ukraine sit on their ass after the annexation of crimea. They didn't invest in military, nothing. Other than they're a corrupt oligarchy that wasn't a democracy itself
Because they're poor & didn't want war. Just how much more corrupt is Ukraine than the US has been?
 
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