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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
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There are many reasons, as I said I only chose one. There are books worth (literally) more info that better splain what i'm trying to say and honestly, i have 0 desire to go into. Esp when my reply was to someone who isn't discussing honestly.
Fair enough. I wasn't up on the entire conversation.
 
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That's because private schools refuse to take state tests and make results public. Only reason they did so in Tennessee is because of pressure to pass the vouchers there.
The public schools outperformed the private schools on those released tests in Tennessee.
Private schools have zero accountability and the added luxury of kicking out low performing kids.
I have no problem with private schools so long as public tax dollars aren't supporting them.
You're truly clueless.
 
This shit has gone so far overboard it’s insane, and we’re not far from a time when “woke” employers may begin trying to compel employees to participate in the madness by expecting them post their preferred pronouns in email signatures, business cards, etc. I said it the other day, one of my personal priorities for the incoming Trump administration is to dismantle all of this DEI bullshit.
 
Liberals making decisions in LA resulted in their city burning down. Pray for no loss of life, but these morons are reaping what they sowed.
I have always considered the great mass of people in California as trapped behind enemy lines. They have no way to escape what has been done to them other than to flee the state.

The whole damn city may burn.
 
This shit has gone so far overboard it’s insane, and we’re not far from a time when “woke” employers may begin trying to compel employees to participate in the madness by expecting them post their preferred pronouns in email signatures, business cards, etc. I said it the other day, one of my personal priorities for the incoming Trump administration is to dismantle all of this DEI bullshit.

Already happening. I believe someone I know was let go (forced resignation with a severance package) for not agreeing to put them in their correspondence and social media profiles. Caught the tail end of their conversation with another person at the table, but it was a major reason they were forced out.

Another friend said they're seeing this in real estate brokerages, mortgage brokerages, and another mentioned it was happening at UK.
 


Jennings got Crockett all upset haha. Imagine thinking 'my ancestors built the White House' is relevant to the discussion...




Crockett: "The last time I checked y'all didn't say that anything was wrong with the White House. And I can promise you it was my ancestors that built the White House.”

The fact is, stop trying to act as if only white men are the ones that are capable. Because right now you sitting at a table with three very capable black women.”



Jennings:
"I'm not. I'm just simply saying that as a matter of public policy in California, the main interest in the fire department lately has been in DEI programming and budget cuts. And now we have this."
 
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You’ll never be able to convince me that basketball isn’t the most corrupt officiated sport.

I don’t even think it’s just a few. I think gambling is an epidemic amongst officials and maybe even the higher ups. No accountability. Absurd decisions that cannot be simply passed off as incompetency. Miss a foul? Miss a guy step out of bounds? Sure. Get that many wrong and lopsided? No way.

Agreed 100%
 


Jennings got Crockett all upset haha. Imagine thinking 'my ancestors built the White House' is relevant to the discussion...




Crockett: "The last time I checked y'all didn't say that anything was wrong with the White House. And I can promise you it was my ancestors that built the White House.”

The fact is, stop trying to act as if only white men are the ones that are capable. Because right now you sitting at a table with three very capable black women.”



Jennings:
"I'm not. I'm just simply saying that as a matter of public policy in California, the main interest in the fire department lately has been in DEI programming and budget cuts. And now we have this."

It may pain her big dumb ass to know the WH was completely gutted in the 1940s as well as the War of 1812.
 
Fyi... State Assessments may be predictive of future academic success, if only recent, biased studies are to be believed, but not based on 5 decades of data before now, nor are they predictive of success in life or careers.

There are many reasons they fail as a litmus test outside of narrow academic settings.

Some of the biggest reasons are that they don't teach to or measure adaptability, nor measure creativity in solving problems, or indicate any level of persistence in the face of adversity. They produce drones in other words that are meant to fit within a pegged system, rather than leaders who can solve critical problems and reason through tough situations and circumstances.

Public schools teach "to the test" and have done so for over 40 years. The narrow scope of this education is perfect for indoctrination rather than truly developing an independent, objective, and intelligent mind. It is easily manipulated by simple memorization, which takes little effort at all, but ideally suits someone just wanting a job instead of a career or entrepreneurship.

It is meant to churn out more hive minded people to make the colony grow, but once the colony becomes overcrowded there is a huge die off in terms of employable drones. That's where we are now. The system cannot sustain itself because of natural limits to production and usefulness of people who all perform the same function for too long.

Private schools do not "teach to the tests" because they are busy teaching reasoning and independent thought. Many are teaching the classical education model that gave us the enlightenment and industrial revolution, as well as the robust economy of this country before the 60s led to the destruction of education itself. The last people to be trained classically in public schools graduated in the early to mid 1980s, when several people I knew first hand began teaching. Things got much worse from there and rapidly.

Classical education values a well-rounded pursuit of knowledge that doesn't discount history, literature, and reason. It's a rigorous curriculum that isn't defined by dittos and scantron tests, but essays, reports, and papers/presentations starting in elementary school. The truth of private education is that not everyone that starts out in private schools can afford to continue through high school because of costs, location inconvenience, and extra-curricular limitations that put an economic strain on families already subsidizing public education as well.

If you exclude students who have attended private schools before the high school level, you will see a drop from the upper ranks of high school graduates and statist-preferred testing measurements. There are at least 3 schools in Lexington that I know of personally whose students take the assessments and on average perform more than 10-15% greater than the average of those one or two grades higher in public schools.

They don't need to publish the results because they don't need the marketing, and they know the classical approach is too rigorous for some to take on. It's definitely too expensive for most, but more so for those in lower income brackets without some sort of voucher system. But that's the idea behind preventing vouchers. It's to keep the lower income brackets from escaping that perpetual motion machine of poverty that has ZERO accountability.

Private school teachers that don't perform their jobs well get FIRED. Can't say that about public schools AT ALL.

Most of yall knew all of this, of course, but for those who don't, you're welcome for the cognitive dissonance disruption.

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Edit- Much of this can be found through a Google or DuckDuckGo search. Google's AI even brought up some of these points. THANKS for playing
 
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Fyi... State Assessments may be predictive of future academic success, if only recent, biased studies are to be believed, but not based on 5 decades of data before now, nor are they predictive of success in life or careers.

There are many reasons they fail as a litmus test outside of narrow academic settings.

Some of the biggest reasons are that they don't teach to or measure adaptability, nor measure creativity in solving problems, or indicate any level of persistence in the face of adversity. They produce drones in other words that are meant to fit within a pegged system, rather than leaders who can solve critical problems and reason through tough situations and circumstances.

Public schools teach "to the test" and have done so for over 40 years. The narrow scope of this education is perfect for indoctrination rather than truly developing an independent, objective, and intelligent mind. It is easily manipulated by simple memorization, which takes little effort at all, but ideally suits someone just wanting a job instead of a career or entrepreneurship.

It is meant to churn out more hive minded people to make the colony grow, but once the colony becomes overcrowded there is a huge die off in terms of employable drones. That's where we are now. The system cannot sustain itself because of natural limits to production and usefulness of people who all perform the same function for too long.

Private schools do not "teach to the tests" because they are busy teaching reasoning and independent thought. Many are teaching the classical education model that gave us the enlightenment and industrial revolution, as well as the robust economy of this country before the 60s led to the destruction of education itself. The last people to be trained classically in public schools graduated in the early to mid 1980s, when several people I knew first hand began teaching. Things got much worse from there and rapidly.

Classical education values a well-rounded pursuit of knowledge that doesn't discount history, literature, and reason. It's a rigorous curriculum that isn't defined by dittos and scantron tests, but essays, reports, and papers/presentations starting in elementary school. The truth of private education is that not everyone that starts out in private schools can afford to continue through high school because of costs, location inconvenience, and extra-curricular limitations that put an economic strain on families already subsidizing public education as well.

If you exclude students who have attended private schools before the high school level, you will see a drop from the upper ranks of high school graduates and statist-preferred testing measurements. There are at least 3 schools in Lexington that I know of personally whose students take the assessments and on average perform more than 10-15% greater than the average of those one or two grades higher in public schools.

They don't need to publish the results because they don't need the marketing, and they know the classical approach is too rigorous for some to take on. It's definitely too expensive for most, but more so for those in lower income brackets without some sort of voucher system. But that's the idea behind preventing vouchers. It's to keep the lower income brackets from escaping that perpetual motion machine of poverty that has ZERO accountability.

Private school teachers that don't perform their jobs well get FIRED. Can't say that about public schools AT ALL.

Most of yall knew all of this, of course, but for those who don't, you're welcome for the cognitive dissonance disruption.
There is so much here that I agree 100% with. Standardized testing is a terrible measurement of academic success and ability. It’s even worse when you use it to judge a particular school or district based on it.

The classical education model is the way to go and we have failed students in many ways. However, I can say that currently science and social studies tests have went away from fact based questions and are now designed with critical thinking and the scientific method in mind. The issue is who grades these tests. Companies continue to push the Bell Curve as the recommended model for score distribution. You can read exit interview with people Pearson hired as graders who were told you’re giving too many 3s and 4s. We need more 2s and 1s on open ended questions. Reading tests are mostly inference based tests now designed for critical thinking as well. There’s very little “recalling what you’ve read”.

But the biggest difference in private and public school test data is the clientele being tested. Which is why I would send my kids to private school if I lived in a metro area. Public school accountability scores include “all students”. This includes students with learning disabilities, students in special needs units who are nonverbal & severely in the spectrum, mentally & physically disabled students, students with English as a 2nd language/ not spoken at all, and students who are constantly truant yet the courts do nothing to parents. These students are tested and scored the same way as typical students with their scores even weighed more because they’re considered a Gap Group. Private schools don’t have these issues. They don’t have to take everyone. They literally say we don’t have the programs needed to serve your child. Their students have parents who are willing to pay and are actively involved in their child’s education (aka #1 indicator for success). Even when they do accept a students with something minor like speech or vision issues, many times the same therapist from public schools come and service them.

There are very good private and public schools. There are also very bad public and private schools. The same for homeschool. I’ve seen students from them all over the years. But the biggest indicator for academic success and future success is and will always be parental involvement in the child’s education. The education system as a whole, needs an overhaul. Federal & state laws keep schools from disciplining students, grouping them ability wise, setting up kids with disabilities for failure while blaming the schools, and forcefully pushing kids towards higher education who should be looking at trade jobs. Just my two cents.
 
Biden cancelling his Italy trip in his final days in office cause of the fires in LA (to many donors for the Dems there, got to act like he is working...plus he knows if anyone is going to write a heroic fiction about his pathetic life and presidency, it will likely come from LA or New York).

Meanwhile, in North Carolina...







 
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Biden cancelling his Italy trip in his final days in office cause of the fires in LA (to many donors for the Dems there, got to act like he is working...plus he knows if anyone is going to write a heroic fiction about his pathetic life and presidency, it will likely come from LA or NYC).

Meanwhile, in North Carolina...







We can't afford to help them.
All of our money is in Ukraine or in blue cities for the illegals.
Cali libs will fare better than Carolina mountain folks.
FJB!
 
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