POLITICAL THREAD

[sambowieshin]

** Newsflash from the 'Lying Liars and the GD Lies They Tell' Department **

4.1% rate

Private Sector Jobs: - 28,000 (NEGATIVE 28,000). "We were looking for 90,000 added"

Factory Jobs: "A loss of 46,000 jobs"

Government Jobs: "We added 40,000 jobs"

View embedded media

I'll leave this right here.

Facts....

Biden far outpaced Trump in creating manufacturing jobs — report

The BlueGreen Alliance also analyzed how Project 2025 could affect the manufacturing sector.

www.eenews.net

 

[Girthang]

View embedded media

Strangely, this never happens to Harris supporters, Biden supporters, nor Obama supporters. Like the people who value life aren't actually violent over t-shirts and signs.... so weird

 

[Lost In FL]

How many precincts will Kamala get 200% of the registered voters?

 

[cat_chaser]

Something just hit me. And I’m not usually a fan of playing this game. But, it’s very odd that nightwish only drops in when polling seems to be swinging Harris’ way.

-He loves talking about polls. Even mentioned analyzing them all the way back to ‘08 and only being shocked by the end result in ‘16.

-is a self proclaimed “above the fray” moderate with a smug attitude.

-a few weeks he busted up in here (of course when Camilla was polling better) boasting that he would bet anyone in here she would win….like a real bet.

-joined in December of 2020.

Y’all remember who else did all that? All the way down to taking a bet on the 2016 election and lost (wish I could remember who JAMO lost that bet to, but the name escapes me). Too bad ol’ JAMO disappeared soon after losing that bet without ever paying up.

Hmmmm.

 

[Girthang]

View embedded media

Will repost as often as I remember to...

 

[Girthang]

 

[sambowieshin]

I think it's a great system that the smaller states can't be completely overwhelmed by the larger ones. No one would campaign outside the 5-10 largest states, so just different states would be targeted than today.

Can't say you're wrong but I sure would like for my vote to count in Ky. It sucks for me and any other Dem in this state.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[UK82]

Can't say you're wrong but I sure would like for my vote to count in Ky. It sucks for me and any other Dem in this state.

How do you think Republicans in California and New York feel?

 

[HymanKaplan]

Matt Jones tweeted today, denigrating KY Amendement 2

His reasonaing was that it would disproportionately affect rural school districts.

I asked him to elaborate, but he declined.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

In the least surprising news of the day, the same government they can't be bothered to answers calls from those needing help after the hurricanes will work overtime and suddenly become efficient when it comes to helping and protecting illegals. Basically no vetting, everybody gets in.





From the article:

The Biden-Harris administration has authorized massive overtime so Department of Homeland Security agents can grant temporary status to as many illegal immigrants as possible before a new president is inaugurated, a Homeland Security agent told The Daily Wire.

“Jason” — an alias given to the agent, who spoke to The Daily Wire on the condition of anonymity, said supervisors have told workers in recent weeks that they should aim to clear the backlog of Temporary Protected Status (TPS) applications within 120 days. Doing so would allow these illegal immigrants to live and work in the country, and shield them from deportation for two years. The department is offering 30 hours of overtime per pay period to expedite processing of the immigrants, who come from countries including Haiti, Venezuela, and Lebanon.

The Department of Homeland Security would not confirm or deny the allegation, or explain its motives. But the unprecedented number of TPS applicants — and the mandate to process them quickly — has put pressure on agents to approve applicants rather than investigate them further or deny them, Jason said.

“It’s much easier to approve a case than to deny a case,” he told The Daily Wire. “Denying it comes with a lot of writing and approvals from supervisors.”

The Biden administration insists that those approved for TPS status have been vetted. But Jason said vetting is really just box checking — literally. Jason said he wakes up in the morning, shuffles into his living room, and begins clicking buttons to approve the migrants each day, sometimes working late into the night to accrue overtime hours.

“I just think the general public should know: I couldn’t tell you if the people we are approving are criminals or not, theres no way to know unless they admit to it,” he said. “The U.S. government isn’t calling up Haiti and saying is this person a criminal?”

 

[HymanKaplan]

If Trump wants to do something useful, in the event he loses, he could throw his political weight around, and cherry pick some vulnerable Senate and House seats, and form an independent "nuisance" party. It really wouldn't take that many. 4 or 5 Senators and around two dozen House seats. It would prevent either of the sh*thead parties from obtaining a controlling majority. He's the only person in the US that would even have a chance at accomplishing that. He'd have to flip a few southern/midwest Democrats, on top of the Republicans he poached, but that's doable.

 

[bcw1029]

Some Kamala sources very bleak on Wisconsin. Plus, don’t forget about what @Tommy mentioned weeks ago.

 

[HymanKaplan]

I've never understood the Kamala/Wisconsin love. Seems like a terrible match.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[ukcatz12]

This is likely your answer, as most into the numbers of it all were waiting for this particular poll to drop tonight. Obviously this doesn't mean Harris is winning IA but if it's anywhere close to this, she wins the race. If it's that close in Iowa or she's actually leading, that makes things significantly tougher for Trump. But tonight, disregard it if you want, say it's cheating, I don't care. We'll all know on Tuesday evening what's what.

View embedded media

Selzer is the absolute gold standard as far as pollsters go. She's considered a god amongst political data scientists. Even if she's off by 5 points this is still horrible news for Trump. If he only won Iowa by 2 he'll lose in a landslide.

 

[Nightwish84]

Something just hit me. And I’m not usually a fan of playing this game. But, it’s very odd that nightwish only drops in when polling seems to be swinging Harris’ way.

-He loves talking about polls. Even mentioned analyzing them all the way back to ‘08 and only being shocked by the end result in ‘16.

-is a self proclaimed “above the fray” moderate with a smug attitude.

-a few weeks he busted up in here (of course when Camilla was polling better) boasting that he would bet anyone in here she would win….like a real bet.

-joined in December of 2020.

Y’all remember who else did all that? All the way down to taking a bet on the 2016 election and lost (wish I could remember who JAMO lost that bet to, but the name escapes me). Too bad ol’ JAMO disappeared soon after losing that bet without ever paying up.

Hmmmm.

Lol.

1. I didn't mention analyzing polling numbers since 2008. I told HK I was confident in '08 and '12 of Obama winning, was wrong in '16 and very confident in '20. You took what I wrote to someone else and created something that didn't exist in my post.

2. I checked my post history. Until a few hours ago, I hadn't posted in this thread since mid-Sept, so that wasn't "a few weeks ago" and trying to make bets with folks online isn't my style, so again, you're making things up.

If you wanna discuss the election, cool. If you're just going to make stuff up to get my attention, that's pretty lame.

 

[HymanKaplan]

It was KABCats that wanted to bet me. (I think) I can't even remember the specifics of it. (He was a tool on here for awhile, but in other threads, he's a pretty funny dude.

Polls are polls. At BEST, they can offer a blurry look at whether a race is tight or not.

The polymarket fascination is weird to me. My main takeaway from it is this: It is extremely accurate if the person you support is up. If they're not, then it's just silly. (seen that from both sides on here)

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

Raising mechanical objections as you've been doing is a premise for a comedy skit.

Do you write Kamala's nonsensical public blathering?

 

[ukcatz12]

For anyone dismissing the Iowa poll, the same exact thing happened in 2020, except it swung from Biden to Trump. Her polls are continuously outliers compared to others and they're continuously correct. It might not be correct this time, but dismiss it cautiously.

She staked her reputation in 2016 when she published a poll that showed Trump's lead on Clinton far bigger than anyone else.

She staked her reputation in 2020 when she showed Trump with a commanding lead in Iowa when others showed it tied or a Biden lead.

From 2020:

The final poll was released Saturday evening, three days before Election Day, to a skeptical crowd of political junkies, some of whom howled their disapproval on social media.

"Everybody starts saying, ‘She’s terrible, she’ll be fired, pay no attention,'" Selzer said. "This has happened to me many, many times."

https://desmoinesregister.com/story...-results-how-did-ann-selzer-do-it/6159615002/

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

If Trump wants to do something useful, in the event he loses, he could throw his political weight around, and cherry pick some vulnerable Senate and House seats, and form an independent "nuisance" party. It really wouldn't take that many. 4 or 5 Senators and around two dozen House seats. It would prevent either of the sh*thead parties from obtaining a controlling majority. He's the only person in the US that would even have a chance at accomplishing that. He'd have to flip a few southern/midwest Democrats, on top of the Republicans he poached, but that's doable.

If Trump loses, he's spending the rest of his life in prison and most likely having his businesses taken away by the DemBolshevik party.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Some Kamala sources very bleak on Wisconsin. Plus, don’t forget about what @Tommy mentioned weeks ago.

Texted with Tommy tonight.

 

[Nightwish84]

Selzer is the absolute gold standard as far as pollsters go. She's considered a god amongst political data scientists. Even if she's off by 5 points this is still horrible news for Trump. If he only won Iowa by 2 he'll lose in a landslide.

That's the thinking anyway. The NYT/Siena polls will be released tomorrow as well.

It's easy to just say "it's the economy, stupid!" or assume the country has some sort of love affair with Trump. Truth is, he's old with a ton of baggage and has had many missteps since the first debate against Biden. The last several days alone have been a disaster. I won't even mention him praising dictators, bashing allies, saying out loud that he'd like to be a dictator, wanting to end organizations like CBS, Jan 6, continued election denial, aligning himself with RFK Jr. and Elon's creepy ass, and focusing on how black someone really is while following that up with trying to make Haitians in OH an enemy of the people that he'd like to somehow deport to...Venezuela. I mean, wtf?

"The first party that drops their old guy is going to be the party that wins. And that's now the Democrats."

 

[HymanKaplan]

nightwish - what are you rambling on about? You're getting yourself all worked up for nothing. 🤣

Tuck it back in and get a hold of yourself son. LOL

And you started out so well... 🤥😦

 

[Boyd94]

 

[Nightwish84]

If Trump wants to do something useful, in the event he loses, he could throw his political weight around, and cherry pick some vulnerable Senate and House seats, and form an independent "nuisance" party. It really wouldn't take that many. 4 or 5 Senators and around two dozen House seats. It would prevent either of the sh*thead parties from obtaining a controlling majority. He's the only person in the US that would even have a chance at accomplishing that. He'd have to flip a few southern/midwest Democrats, on top of the Republicans he poached, but that's doable.

I agree. If Trump loses, he should create a smaller party consisting of angry guys who worship him and refuse to accept election results. With his age, his baggage, two election losses in a row, and him basically being political poison, splintering the Republican Party is what's best for business. Psst...his handpicked candidates usually lose too.

Oh, and Trump is too lazy to look at data and "cherry pick" seats around the country. Crazy this is what you want after he endorsed goobers like Dr Oz, Kari Lake, and Robinson in NC.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Reposted by JD Vance:

 

[HymanKaplan]

nightwish is going to blow an O-ring if Trump wins. LOL He's RILED up tonight. And all because of Iowa and polymarket. 🤣 🤣

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[HymanKaplan]

View embedded media

It's a mental illness. We've established this already.

You're witnessing it in real life, right now. Go back and read NW's posts tonight. You can literally see him revving up, post by post. A whirling dervish. a full on 'berzerker' 🤣

HK out for the night. LOL

 

[Nightwish84]

nightwish is going to blow an O-ring if Trump wins. LOL He's RILED up tonight. And all because of Iowa and polymarket. 🤣 🤣

Haven't mentioned Polymarket. Getting confused?

I'm looking forward to reading this thread Tuesday night. I'm taking all the crazy sumbitches off ignore so I can read their insane posts and rants. You want RILED like this thread was when Biden won? You're going to read some RILED takes from your buddies here.

Good talk btw. I attempt to have a conversation and you troll to impress strangers on the internet. That's...something I guess.

 

[IdaCat]

Trump's popularity is at an all time high. He is more organized and energerized, and has a better campaign team than ever before (2016 and 2020).

He has added a large coalition of new supporters including Muslims, Jews, Amish, Mormons, Union workers, RFK MAHA supporters, Tulsi active duty and Veteran military supporters, Elon tech business pardners and admirers, Gen Z, Black and Hispanics, Free Speech and deregulation advocates, and others at levels greater than anytime in his last 2 elections.

People have awakened to the tyrannry of the filthy machine who pullls the dem candidate puppet strings and they've had enough.

To me this shows that MAGA is poised to win and possibly win big.

Kamala is a fake, scripted, candidate who can't explain any policies she didn't steal from Trump that aren't laughed off the table. She's left with lying and cackling.

In this reality, Trump wins this election. Possibly by a landslide.

The cheat is the only hope for Kamala and it is being more closely scrutinized by Trump's team this time. We will see soon.

 

[RunninRichie]

Who cares who wins the duopoly election? I'm just here for the meltdowns from both "sides".

 

[RunninRichie]

Trump's popularity is at an all time high. He is more organized and energerized, and has a better campaign team than ever before (2016 and 2020).

He has added a large coalition of new supporters including Muslims, Jews, Amish, Mormons, Union workers, RFK MAHA supporters, Tulsi active duty and Veteran military supporters, Elon tech business pardners and admirers, Gen Z, Black and Hispanics, and others at levels greater than anytime in his last 2 elections.

People have awakened to the tyrannry of the filthy machine who pullls the dem candidate puppet strings and they've had enough.

To me this shows that MAGA is poised to win and possibly win big.

Kamala is a fake, scripted, candidate who can't explain any policies she didn't steal from Trump that aren't laughed off the table. She's left with lying and cackling.

In this reality, Trump wins this election. Possibly by a landslide.

The cheat is the only hope for Kamala and it is being more closely scrutinized by Trump's team this time. We will see soon.

Auth-left or auth-right. Vote wisely.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Only got through about 30 seconds of video of Kamala on SNL, that was enough. People are pointing out it copied one Trump did with Fallon.









Saw this video of this past Trump appearance on SNL, one thing about this that always was a little funny is future late night host and Trump hater Seth Meyers once had to put on that dumb outfit and dance around for a Donald Trump skit.

 

[Mike-McD]

Sucks. Bad weekend. UL beats Clemson and IU goes to 9-0.

Be honest, how many predicted a 4-8 year preseason?

I knew it. Come on, Stoops tried to leave. How focused can he be?

 

[HymanKaplan]

Here's a recap of nightwishes' evening, for those that missed it.

He came in, playing it cool at first, polls don't matter blah blah blah, tried the dion Rasmussen tag on me.

cat_chaser, called him out (rightfully so) re: that as soon as polymarket (chuckle) and the "Iowa" bombshell (LOL) dropped, he couldn't WAIT to come in here and "get to work". I was being cordial to him, and essentially said, in so many words "I'm not counting on polls, it's a dead-heat." But that's not what he rode in to town for.

Somebody else, a Selzer poll sycophant started spouting off about what a "god" she is in the pollster world (and she has a pretty good record, but nothing earth-shattering) and before you knew it, the internet courage puffed up and it was on. It was a real humdinger. 🤣

Here is a visual aid that I think captures the atmosphere perfectly. 🤣


nightwish is GOING to have his SAY, by Gawd. LOL



I missed the last post, but he's planning on going Sherman to the sea in here if Kamala wins. LOL I won't lie, if she DOES win, I'll be disappointed, but watching him bantam rooster around will at least make for some good entertainment.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Facts....

Biden far outpaced Trump in creating manufacturing jobs — report

The BlueGreen Alliance also analyzed how Project 2025 could affect the manufacturing sector.

www.eenews.net

Perhaps, but not last month.

 

[HymanKaplan]

I don't know why, but in the Trump's House of Wings skit, what makes me LOL the most is when he says, "I love a good deal, and when I saw an abandoned autoshop in Bedminster NJ..." 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

"the wing is the best part of a chicken. Better than the head 🤣 "

He's the GOAT.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Matt Jones tweeted today, denigrating KY Amendement 2

His reasonaing was that it would disproportionately affect rural school districts.

I asked him to elaborate, but he declined.

He can't.