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This is their end goal, to have that be normal.
US law recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb.
Sounds like a bit more than a “clump of cells.”
Gee I dont know...I'll call Tucker Carlson and ask
They have clearly never gotten anyone pregnant and heard that “clump of cells” heartbeat.
Looks like Deeeeeeeeeefense banned me from the sex ed topic....didn't appreciate me disagreeing with him that the subject is political, regardless of how he wants to paint it.
It's amazing you mentioned that scenario, twice. Makes it seem like you think the two things are equal and you've made a smart comparison. Well, they're not, and you didn't.
There are laws regarding unborn children. If someone kills a pregnant woman and the fetus dies, they are charged with two murders. How do you reconcile that with your statement that it's just "a clump of cells"? Ever heard of cell multiplication? Once cells start multiplying, the life process has begun. It's just that simple, James.
I understand there are many varied opinions on the subject. My personal one is that life is a continual, ongoing process. Sperm and eggs are both alive before they merge into a zygote. “When life actually begins” is really irrelevant to the conversation, the real question for policy formation is: When does a fetus gain legal rights as an individual?
Which is a nonsensical, self-serving opinion.
Of course. Life begins at conception as a matter of fact. It is the first stage of being human.
No, the "life actually begins" question is the only question that matters. Inserting a legal opinion by black robed numbnuts is irrelevant.
So. Who cares? You don't care that anti-semites, communists and anarchists support, donate and are foot soldiers for leftist democrat candidates.
So funny. Carlson was a journalist before he ever worked for FOXNN. They can't keep him from doing what he learned to do before they employed him. Besides, it's not the same type of platform
Yes the laws should be applied equally across political spectrum and an argument could be made they're too strict. Read the indictment though. Trump willfully withheld things when requested. This is a case about knowingly perpetrating illegal activities, not some innocent mistake.
How did the FBI know to search Joe Biden’s various garages for secret documents he obtained when a Senator and had no lawful authority to remove from the SCIF?
As pointed out by whom? You?
LOL. There's not a single "point" you make that is logically coherent...that one is ofcourse no different.
So if/when medical science is able to determine the future "gender-identity or sexual preference" of the fertilized egg....will you support the mothers right to abort it because she does not want a gay or trans baby?
But I thought you can't change sex? So those are man boobs right? Why are they indecent or even covered then? Y'all have to pick an ideology here.
from a recently published medical article (the summary):
Summary The question, “Do the benefits of youth gender transitions outweigh the risks of harm?” remains unanswered because of a paucity of follow-up data. The conclusions of the systematic reviews of evidence for adolescents are consist- ent with long-term adult studies, which failed to show credible improvements in mental health and suggested a pattern of treatment-associated harms. Three recent papers examined the studies that underpin the practice of youth gender transition and found the research to be deeply flawed. Evidence does not support the notion that “affirmative care” of today’s adolescents is net beneficial. Questions about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-dysphoric youth generated an intensity of divisiveness within and outside of medicine rarely seen with other clinical uncertainties. Because the future well-being of young patients and their families is at stake, the field must stop relying on social justice arguments and return to the time-honored principles of evidence-based medicine.
Summary The question, “Do the benefits of youth gender transitions outweigh the risks of harm?” remains unanswered because of a paucity of follow-up data. The conclusions of the systematic reviews of evidence for adolescents are consist- ent with long-term adult studies, which failed to show credible improvements in mental health and suggested a pattern of treatment-associated harms. Three recent papers examined the studies that underpin the practice of youth gender transition and found the research to be deeply flawed. Evidence does not support the notion that “affirmative care” of today’s adolescents is net beneficial. Questions about how to best care for the rapidly growing numbers of gender-dysphoric youth generated an intensity of divisiveness within and outside of medicine rarely seen with other clinical uncertainties. Because the future well-being of young patients and their families is at stake, the field must stop relying on social justice arguments and return to the time-honored principles of evidence-based medicine.
The FBI negotiated with him to come in and look around. No I'm not kidding. Yes it's ridiculous and a two tiered justice system
We've been over this multiple times but fetal homicide laws exist separate from normal homicide. If fetuses were legal persons there would be no need for fetal homicide laws, you'd just charge the person with double homicide. The law does not recognize fetuses as people generally, only when instructed to in specific instances. Your example illustrates the opposite of what you're alleging.
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How does a Senator get documents that lawfully must be contained in a SCIF? How does a Senator not know he or she has do secret documents that were lawfully never to be removed from the SCIF?
Disrespectful at the White House but not in our schools. Understand yet?
I agree with @BlueRunner11's comment below. Seems that "zygote" has some legal rights pretty early on.
Any of you stupid democrats ever felt a baby kick or heard its heartbeat? Read about how they develop week to week? Don’t bother answering because I already know. Hard to imagine something “not living” doing those things. Brainwashed morons, I tell ya what.
The exception proves the rule. It proves you are murdering human beings through abortion: theonly genuinely morally justifiable case would be in the case of life threatening situation to the mother.
As is the case with self defense laws. One day the law will accord with what is actually true, namely, that a fetus is a human being completely deserving of the same natural rights the rest of us hold.
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