POLITICAL THREAD

[LOL_Man]

I see many people and even a few posters in here that are my fellow Democrats that rave and rail at the GOP for not fixing their Trump problem, yet they are the very same people that destroy the Democratic Party with their wokeness.

Nobody likes woke except themselves in their relatively small group of party foulers inside the Democratic Party just as nobody likes MAGA except for their relatively small group inside the Republican Party.

The Democratic Party is the party of the Blue Collar Middle class working people. Not the aggrieved minorities and gays. We are united by understanding none of us thrives without a healthy middle class. An economic union of interests. We are not the oppressive moral police waging the biggest war on free speech and expression the world has even seen. Please go away. Quietly.

We all live our own lives as equally and fairly as possible when Democrats win. Democrats can't win if 75% of the country hates our woke guts.

 

[SDC8888]

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the novel
coronavirus infected and harmed republicans more than democrats?

nationwide?

remember your paper only cited Ohio and Florida as the areas where they believed this phenomena occurred

In that paper is DIRECT REFUTATION of their (political buffoons who can't actually understand statistics/mathematics/scientific observational studies) premise that politics caused some to be more affected by the virus than others.

 

[CastleRubric]

In that paper is DIRECT REFUTATION of their (political buffoons who can't actually understand statistics/mathematics/scientific observational studies) premise that politics caused some to be more affected by the virus than others.

And i know what angle they're reaching for there -- CDC and all the state
DoHealth Agencies look to behavioral epidemiology when it comes to
chronic diseases - and they always build these models that represent resistance or unwillingness fm specific populations in regards to taking their advice and engaging in preventative care etc

so they're actively looking at factors that would present a barrier to going and getting your colonoscopy or breast exams or - vaccines

and the conventional intent is an exercise in evaluating factors that are working against your logic models of resources--programs--efficacy and legislative engagement ....

BUT - these genetic based therapy injections and the associated market / regulatory conditions they were launched in (no liability for manufacturers, no adequate testing, pathogen tracking or longitudinal studies ETC) --- is utterly unique when compared to a routine PSA on self check ups or preventative care

CDC needs to turn the evaluation efforts inward and take a good long year or so and make changes

if not - then they should be audited along with the CDC Foundation and the active pharma companies who participated -- also -- the Trump
administration reps who had anything whatsoever to do with green lighting "operation warp speed"

THAT and reforming our voting system should be two priorities that ALL Americans are united on - plus - de-escalating the Eurasian conflict, or at least our role in it

Seems simple - but its like we've ALL un-learned /forgotten how to cooperate together to hold public agencies or govt reps accountable

 

[LOL_Man]

There's always going to be like and dislike. Even hate to a great extent. You can create a new aggrieved class every hour of every day because you are defying human nature, not to mention putting comedians out of business. I don't like fat people and I am very uncomfortable around midgets. Off to the reeducation camp for me, I guess.

Stop being so fragile. Some people are not going to like me no matter what I do. So what? Have at it. Won't stop me. We don't need more pitchforks and flaming torches to root out and destroy somebody that forgot whatever stupid rule they put in place 2 hours ago that identified another special person we all must ensure is not getting their feelings hurt and that we must now tip-toe around. Even being required to participate in someone else's delusion that they are something they scientifically provably are not. Why should I be forced to pretend right along with them? Man in the bathroom with my daughter? Perfectly normal. Nothing to see here unless I am a bigot?

Persevere. Let humans be human. Unless you have some actual discrimination that has impacted you in your life then move on. Lord knows we have enough rules and laws in place to address actual real world racism and all the other "isms" we are consumed by. Take your issue to court if you have an actual issue. Isn't that what we say about the Trump election lies?

Unpopular speech is the only speech that needs protecting. The only thing Woke has done is change the oppressor from Government to the media. The results are the same. Less free people being forced to hide their true feelings and forced to bow and curtsey to scientifically provable madness.

I allow for you to be you and I truly wish you all the best to pursue life, liberty, and happiness the same as me... but that isn't good enough, you don't want to allow me to be me at penalty of my livelihood and folks, that is a battle line to fight over.

 

[Lost In FL]

Inside the Trump war room.

We are supposed to believe you are inside the "trump war room"?
Baaahahhaaaaahhaaahhaaaa
Bahhaaaahhhaaaa

You are such a retard

 

[Dionysus444]

No I don't know that -

You're not even making a rational assertion, with all due respect

For starters - what do you mean when you say "covid"?

Also - those comments about the methodology and lack of peer review are relevant --- not intended to unilaterally attack YOU ...in fact I DID add your quoted source to my "web matrix" as an active site to check from time to time

But honestly - after seeing firsthand (and occasionally directly supporting) how peer reviewed scientific publications are generated -- the meticulous attention to detail and almost painful clarity given to definitions, indicators, limitations, literature reviews etc

Its a niche where i have relevant experience is all

And that paper was booty

Can you think of any other respiratory disease that specifically becomes more
virulent when exposed to political classes?

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that the novel
coronavirus infected and harmed republicans more than democrats?

nationwide?

remember your paper only cited Ohio and Florida as the areas where they believed this phenomena occurred

No they used OH and FL only as those states had the most complete data. Yes the virus affected people differently who had different behaviors. They directly show how the rates were similar early in the pandemic and then diverge as the vaccine became available and there was more uptake in D counties than R.

 

[CastleRubric]

Don't know where you got that, but 60% more like it from what I see. Too many kids & Libs vote Dim for that.

Seriously - we need to stop looking at the polls

and start voting for US

Sounds crazy but im serious - id love to see widespread commitment to disengagement fm the professional political class and all their slack ass data and polls

and start looking around you for regular ppl
to take over the most local and community affiliated political positions there are -
stop pretending that the Democratic or Republican parties care about anything other than their own foul backsides

we have to forge a political consciousness that refutes the existing political machinery and all its divide and conquer tactics

I am going to try and draft 5-6 bullet points tonight and will post them here - my belief is these will be universal values and priorities that EVERYONE here will agree on

Bit first i REALLY gotta shower

 

[LOL_Man]

We are supposed to believe you are inside the "trump war room"?
Baaahahhaaaaahhaaahhaaaa
Bahhaaaahhhaaaa

You are such a retard

Yeah, that's what I was going for. I wanted to make you think I was standing right next to him Can't fool you as you're obviously way too sharp for that.

 

[Lost In FL]

View embedded media

Who wants to bet that some time within the next few weeks (before the new congress starts up), that ALL or nearly all of the J6 unreleased footage will "accidentally" get deleted?

@TheFrontRunner ... give us the odds, man.

 

[vhcat70]

DeSantis Tells the World Economic Forum to Take a Hike​

"Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is warning the World Economic Forum that its globalist policies, which seek to undermine the sovereignty of nations and their states, are not welcome in the Sunshine State.

The statement comes after WEF Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab told the G20 Summit the world needs a "deep, systemic restructuring" and that "the world will look differently after we have gone through this transition process." "

 

[SDC8888]

No they used OH and FL only as those states had the most complete data. Yes the virus affected people differently who had different behaviors. They directly show how the rates were similar early in the pandemic and then diverge as the vaccine became available and there was more uptake in D counties than R.

The data itself demonstrate politics cannot be causal.

You just aren't capable of seeing it; even if you read the paper ten or one hundred times, you still wouldn't see it.

 

[dbmhoosier]

I'd vote for her.

 

[CastleRubric]

No they used OH and FL only as those states had the most complete data. Yes the virus affected people differently who had different behaviors. They directly show how the rates were similar early in the pandemic and then diverge as the vaccine became available and there was more uptake in D counties than R.

The whole thing is built on a foundation of erroneous data

High fidelity data - weighted and representative is THE foundation for any higher ordered assertion or scientific thought

This paper took the inaccurate and skewed data CDC was shotgunning (and routinely correcting) and then ran with it

You can not take the "covid death counts" that were referenced and build amy meaningful assertion on top of them

Why?
A couple of really good reasons -

1) The definition of a case of "covid" was set to include prevalence counts of each of the other coronavirus cases, pneumonia, influenza, pertussis plus suspected cases AND "presumed" cases of "covid"

^^^ thats NOT how your track an outbreak that features a novel , never seen before coronavirus

2) Dual death certificates were authorized when
attributing mortality to "covid" - so a person could die from ANYTHING -- but it they also happened to have had a cold or were presumed/suspected of having covid -- then they were issued a second death certificate to count - as a "covid death"

^^ and THAT is bullshit

and CDC knew better


So - tell me what the intent or purpose of such a paper is anyway?

why launch a paper - an interim study with faulty data. and no peer review or framework of limitations/cooperative efforts that consider other causes or factors besides "political class"

Why put that paper out there?

Its a shameless, half baked political hack attempt to demonize people for no good reason other than squashing resistance


Seriously - you think there are
codified behaviors or beliefs within the Republican party that contribute to higher prevalence of respiratory disease?

Or - maybe what they really want to say is "conservative type people" (?) - are stubborn and a danger to themselves and the general public

So - what about the fact that NEITHER political party was required to take the GD shots at all?

How does that factor in?
The executive branch - the supreme court
All exempt


THERES YOUR POLITICAL ANGLE TO THE WHOLE ROTTEN SORDID AFFAIR

They're ALL Above us and better than
us and exempted themselves from what we were all threatened with -

Fking unbelievable

(not YOU , Dionysus - the authors of that worthless paper have me pissed off )

 

[SDC888]

Trump also told them drectly to take the vaccine, yet they still refused.

That right there alone is proof positive the MAGA movement could not be the "cult" you people think were told it was.

 

[CastleRubric]

o they used OH and FL only as those states had the most complete data. Yes the virus affected people differently who had different behaviors. They directly show how the rates were similar early in the pandemic and then diverge as the vaccine became available and there was more uptake in D counties than R.

Then if we collectively allow ourselves to forget the exemptions given to the actual democratic and republican parties -

We should see similar patterns "at the county level" (thats odd too - normally you
cite the states) -- when the hucksters return and demand everyone get "booster A,B and C"

And we should see similar patterns for other health care or public health type decisions

Maybe a better question is -- why is the market being flooded with scores and
scores of new vaccines year over year -- with increasingly less testing or manufacturer "ownership" of the consequences

We are being suckered into asking the wrong questions yet again IMO

But the average person has been made to
feel that we aren't capable of such engagement and the "experts" should be trusted without reservation

In fact - the science is SO GOOD that it's literally becoming a criminal act to question the jackals who are lining their pockets while dumping harmful and half baked countermeasures like the mRNA injections

Dionysus - divorce yourself from the democratic party and marxist ideology - lay claim to your inherent and inalienable rights as a human being to resist the sloppy, half assed policies we've seen on this topic fm both the Trump and Biden administration

Thats resistance worth wielding, man!

and last but not least....a
moment of silence for our poor Cats today as they head to the executioners
block against the mighty bulldogs

may the contest be brief
may no bones be broken
and God - please let us leave with our dignity intact **








** never mind -'dignity was lost to Vanderbilt last week wasnt it?

 

[LOL_Man]

Anyone that thinks Desantis isn't going to run is naive. Of course he is going to run. You don't sit out an election you'd be the clear favorite to win.

Desantis coming out of the Republican Convention would have a 20 pt lead.

Trump, feeling cornered, he has to be percolating with rage. I'm just sitting here waiting for the cork to pop on him. There is no way to square a standoff between Trump and Desantis. Trump will never concede the truth that Desantis is more popular and Desantis can't step aside for a flawed Republican to throw away another election. There must be a fight. VP talk is utterly foolish and the sight of Trump picking up and moving out of Florida because Desantis is stronger just so Trump can offer him the VP would make Trump look so weak that only Trump at his most desperate would attempt it. How can Trump move out of Florida and offer Desantis a VP spot months before a GOP convention that Desantis could easily win? No way on earth either of them accepts that.

Whether any of you like it or not a fight is coming between those two and it is going to be a good one. And when Trump loses and the GOP lines up behind Ron and that beautiful young family to run against an old and tired looking Joe Biden, well how well do you think Trump is going to take that? Maybe take his voters and blow the whole thing up? I know what I have my money on. LOL.

 

[CastleRubric]

There's always going to be like and dislike. Even hate to a great extent. You can create a new aggrieved class every hour of every day because you are defying human nature, not to mention putting comedians out of business. I don't like fat people and I am very uncomfortable around midgets. Off to the reeducation camp for me, I guess.

Stop being so fragile. Some people are not going to like me no matter what I do. So what? Have at it. Won't stop me. We don't need more pitchforks and flaming torches to root out and destroy somebody that forgot whatever stupid rule they put in place 2 hours ago that identified another special person we all must ensure is not getting their feelings hurt and that we must now tip-toe around. Even being required to participate in someone else's delusion that they are something they scientifically provably are not. Why should I be forced to pretend right along with them? Man in the bathroom with my daughter? Perfectly normal. Nothing to see here unless I am a bigot?

Persevere. Let humans be human. Unless you have some actual discrimination that has impacted you in your life then move on. Lord knows we have enough rules and laws in place to address actual real world racism and all the other "isms" we are consumed by. Take your issue to court if you have an actual issue. Isn't that what we say about the Trump election lies?

Unpopular speech is the only speech that needs protecting. The only thing Woke has done is change the oppressor from Government to the media. The results are the same. Less free people being forced to hide their true feelings and forced to bow and curtsey to scientifically provable madness.

I allow for you to be you and I truly wish you all the best to pursue life, liberty, and happiness the same as me... but that isn't good enough, you don't want to allow me to be me at penalty of my livelihood and folks, that is a battle line to fight over.

well said

also - people should take a trip to the
middle east or asia if they want to
experience actual racism

we have it pretty good
-


Hope that doesn't sound ivory tower ish

 

[VaxxedObamaCat]

well said

also - people should take a trip to the
middle east or asia if they want to
experience actual racism

we have it pretty good
-


Hope that doesn't sound ivory tower ish

Yeah. Those cultures aren’t afraid of being called names and aren’t ruled by PC agendas. They have no issue being racist as there’s no call to destroy them for hurting someone’s feelings. It’s only a weakness for the west. No one else cares.

 

[berniecarbo]

A little complaining. I'm a small businessman (in the process of cutting way back or closing). I used to get a top ring for a lamp shade powder coated for $1.25 about 18 months ago. Now it's 4$. That's just the coating-not the ring itself. My supplier can no longer get the washers made here, EPA has become so difficult no one wants to make them. Lots of this type stuff happening.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

You are liable to catch anything fishing in the Gulf of Mexico

 

[SDC888]

Just add not in with the dem crime syndicate and he's got it nailed.

 

[SDC888]

 

[Sawnee Cat]

DeSantis Tells the World Economic Forum to Take a Hike​

"Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is warning the World Economic Forum that its globalist policies, which seek to undermine the sovereignty of nations and their states, are not welcome in the Sunshine State.

The statement comes after WEF Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab told the G20 Summit the world needs a "deep, systemic restructuring" and that "the world will look differently after we have gone through this transition process." "

And the False Narrative is DeSantis is a globalist and controlled by the $$$ of the establishment. LOL He is the exact opposite.

DeSantis keeps Florida on the right track and financially sound without WET garbage. This month Florida set a record for the number of visitors to our state. More than 104,000,000 visitor have spent vacation time in Florida already this year. Inspite of telling Disney World to take a hike, people still come down and spend their money. We welcome them and want them to have a good time.

Who needs WET, Not DeSantis and not Florida.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[UK_fan_41102]

What's the over/under on the days this judge has left now?

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I see many people and even a few posters in here that are my fellow Democrats that rave and rail at the GOP for not fixing their Trump problem, yet they are the very same people that destroy the Democratic Party with their wokeness.

Nobody likes woke except themselves in their relatively small group of party foulers inside the Democratic Party just as nobody likes MAGA except for their relatively small group inside the Republican Party.

The Democratic Party is the party of the Blue Collar Middle class working people. Not the aggrieved minorities and gays. We are united by understanding none of us thrives without a healthy middle class. An economic union of interests. We are not the oppressive moral police waging the biggest war on free speech and expression the world has even seen. Please go away. Quietly.

We all live our own lives as equally and fairly as possible when Democrats win. Democrats can't win if 75% of the country hates our woke guts.

You are living in the past. Democrats may have been the party of blue collar workers but that was Yesterday And Yesterday's Gone.

You don't tell blue collar workers you are going to eliminate their occupations and expect them to continue voting for you. You don't push wokeism down their throat and get their vote. You don't tell mamas they have no voice in their child's education and get their vote.

No the Democrats are Ivy League Universities. very wealthy high tech Silicon Valley. the gay movement, 96% black America and urban America on welfare, non workers. People who raise families, go to church on Sunday, work as electricians, plumbers, carpenters and the service industry are solid GOP today. Times have changed.

 

[55wildcat]

 

[westtncat]

They have the mind control perfected already.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

The Republican Party keeps losing because of RINO losers like Chris Christie.

 

[Lost In FL]

The whole thing is built on a foundation of erroneous data

High fidelity data - weighted and representative is THE foundation for any higher ordered assertion or scientific thought

This paper took the inaccurate and skewed data CDC was shotgunning (and routinely correcting) and then ran with it

You can not take the "covid death counts" that were referenced and build amy meaningful assertion on top of them

Why?
A couple of really good reasons -

1) The definition of a case of "covid" was set to include prevalence counts of each of the other coronavirus cases, pneumonia, influenza, pertussis plus suspected cases AND "presumed" cases of "covid"

^^^ thats NOT how your track an outbreak that features a novel , never seen before coronavirus

2) Dual death certificates were authorized when
attributing mortality to "covid" - so a person could die from ANYTHING -- but it they also happened to have had a cold or were presumed/suspected of having covid -- then they were issued a second death certificate to count - as a "covid death"

^^ and THAT is bullshit

and CDC knew better


So - tell me what the intent or purpose of such a paper is anyway?

why launch a paper - an interim study with faulty data. and no peer review or framework of limitations/cooperative efforts that consider other causes or factors besides "political class"

Why put that paper out there?

Its a shameless, half baked political hack attempt to demonize people for no good reason other than squashing resistance


Seriously - you think there are
codified behaviors or beliefs within the Republican party that contribute to higher prevalence of respiratory disease?

Or - maybe what they really want to say is "conservative type people" (?) - are stubborn and a danger to themselves and the general public

So - what about the fact that NEITHER political party was required to take the GD shots at all?

How does that factor in?
The executive branch - the supreme court
All exempt


THERES YOUR POLITICAL ANGLE TO THE WHOLE ROTTEN SORDID AFFAIR

They're ALL Above us and better than
us and exempted themselves from what we were all threatened with -

Fking unbelievable

(not YOU , Dionysus - the authors of that worthless paper have me pissed off )

Let me try to summarize ... there are scientific arguments and there are philosophical arguments. And they are not the same.

Close?

 

[Sawnee Cat]

 

[mdlUK.1]

The only chair she should be in is ELECTRIC !

 

[sambowieshin]

You think this is some sort of burn but almost everyone in the country likes Bernie more than Trump. That's despite agreeing with Trump's politics much more than Bernie's. That's because he's a good a person and Trump isn't. I'll take that any day of the week. (I also agree with Bernie's policies.) @sambowieshin would back that up I bet, he thinks Bernie is a bit kooky but he isn't evil like Trump.

💯.... I don't like Mike Pence's or Ron DeSanctimonious policies but I could still vote for them because they aren't anti democracy pieces of sh** like Trump.

 

[SDC888]

One of those ambush reporters on the hill cornered her and asked her about those connections/donations, she was like, "Well, he donated to Republicans too!"

Yes, he donated to never-Trumper Reps... in other words, other deep-state traitors indistinguishable from demvs.

 

[dbmhoosier]

I'm glad they're back.

 

[Lost In FL]

💯.... I don't like Mike Pence's or Ron DeSanctimonious policies but I could still vote for them because they aren't anti democracy pieces of sh** like Trump.

Sure.

If RD gets the nomination, then you will say "at least trump was better because..."

Write it down. This will happen.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

Sure.

If RD gets the nomination, then you will say "at least trump was better because..."

Write it down. This will happen.

True, a Dim will vote for a dead man before ever voting for a Republican. Those are just the facts. We know that. So the excuse will be as you state and we can write it down.

Sam will vote for Biden even if he is a dead man walking

 

[dbmhoosier]

I love this guy but it's just a matter of time before something bad happens to him. These people are completely insane and unhinged and he keeps agitating them.

 

[Lost In FL]

Imagine if you will ...



Playing monopoly w Dion. Help me w some "Dion rules":
You have to pay him when he buys a property.
He never pays rent.
Whomever is losing gets a handout on each turn.
Only those in the lead go to jail
Minorities get baltic for free

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Democrats fire up push for DACA amnesty in lame duck session before GOP takes House

Democrats and immigration activists are pushing for Republican support to get a pathway to citizenship for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients.

www.foxnews.com