Have you seen that "advisory committee"?
Lol all liberals, including a Soros funded group.
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Have you seen that "advisory committee"?
Lol all liberals, including a Soros funded group.
New study: Lockdowns & masks are useless and might even increase COVID-19 spread
November 16, 2020 12:03 am Robert Zimmerman
A recently completed research study by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in cooperation with the Naval Medical Research Center and published in the New England Journal of Medicine has found that strict quarantine, tightly controlled social distancing, and continuous use of masks did absolutely nothing to contain the spread of COVID-19, and might even have increased its spread.
First, the study used 1,843 Marine volunteers, individuals well trained to follow orders as well as the required procedures. Second, their quarantine took place at Marine facility under the supervision of the military. Both factors meant that the volunteers were going to follow procedures much more correctly than the general public.
Third, no one could enter the study without undergoing 14-days of quarantine beforehand, plus a test to prove they were negative of COVID-19 at the study’s start. The study itself was held in a tightly controlled quarantine campus run by the Marines.
The volunteers then had to follow this incredibly strict quarantine regiment:
More significantly, the control group of Marines who did not participate in this study, and thus were not under the same strict lock down rules, actually saw fewer infections, as shown on the table from the study to the right.
While the difference wasn’t very large, it existed nonetheless. One could argue that the overuse of masks probably contributed to the higher numbers in the study group, since even in this tightly controlled setting it is still impossible to expect people to wear masks properly. Even if they replaced them regularly, it is unrealistic to expect people to never touch them while they wear them. Over long periods the masks will become havens for the virus, where the person breathes.
The study also demonstrated once again the relative harmlessness of the disease. Almost all of these young healthy Marine recruits who tested positive were asymptomatic, meaning that they wouldn’t have even known they were infected if they had not been participating. Furthermore, it appears no one even got very sick.
Once again, this data continues to reinforce the very very early data from March. COVID-19 is not dangerous to the young or healthy, and it will spread no matter what you do. The best way to beat it and thus protect the vulnerable older and sick population is to have it spread as fast as possible through the young and healthy population, so that it will die out quickly and thus no longer be a threat.
This is how humans have handled these respiratory diseases since time immemorial. Darwin’s rules made us do it that way, with good results. Too bad our bankrupt political leaders and health officials have decided to abandon these well-proven practices. The result has not only been more COVID-19 deaths, but more deaths overall, from the bad consequences of economic loss, depression, reduced medical treatment available for other illnesses, and numerous other issues caused by the lock downs, not the virus..
Sadly, I fully expect that our fans of lock downs and masks will either refuse to read this study, or if they do, will find any excuse to dismiss it.
November 16, 2020 12:03 am Robert Zimmerman
A recently completed research study by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in cooperation with the Naval Medical Research Center and published in the New England Journal of Medicine has found that strict quarantine, tightly controlled social distancing, and continuous use of masks did absolutely nothing to contain the spread of COVID-19, and might even have increased its spread.
First, the study used 1,843 Marine volunteers, individuals well trained to follow orders as well as the required procedures. Second, their quarantine took place at Marine facility under the supervision of the military. Both factors meant that the volunteers were going to follow procedures much more correctly than the general public.
Third, no one could enter the study without undergoing 14-days of quarantine beforehand, plus a test to prove they were negative of COVID-19 at the study’s start. The study itself was held in a tightly controlled quarantine campus run by the Marines.
The volunteers then had to follow this incredibly strict quarantine regiment:
The result? The virus still spread through this population. As they noted in the paper:
None of these strict lock down mandates, including continuous mask use, did anything to prevent transmission.
More significantly, the control group of Marines who did not participate in this study, and thus were not under the same strict lock down rules, actually saw fewer infections, as shown on the table from the study to the right.
While the difference wasn’t very large, it existed nonetheless. One could argue that the overuse of masks probably contributed to the higher numbers in the study group, since even in this tightly controlled setting it is still impossible to expect people to wear masks properly. Even if they replaced them regularly, it is unrealistic to expect people to never touch them while they wear them. Over long periods the masks will become havens for the virus, where the person breathes.
The study also demonstrated once again the relative harmlessness of the disease. Almost all of these young healthy Marine recruits who tested positive were asymptomatic, meaning that they wouldn’t have even known they were infected if they had not been participating. Furthermore, it appears no one even got very sick.
Once again, this data continues to reinforce the very very early data from March. COVID-19 is not dangerous to the young or healthy, and it will spread no matter what you do. The best way to beat it and thus protect the vulnerable older and sick population is to have it spread as fast as possible through the young and healthy population, so that it will die out quickly and thus no longer be a threat.
This is how humans have handled these respiratory diseases since time immemorial. Darwin’s rules made us do it that way, with good results. Too bad our bankrupt political leaders and health officials have decided to abandon these well-proven practices. The result has not only been more COVID-19 deaths, but more deaths overall, from the bad consequences of economic loss, depression, reduced medical treatment available for other illnesses, and numerous other issues caused by the lock downs, not the virus..
Sadly, I fully expect that our fans of lock downs and masks will either refuse to read this study, or if they do, will find any excuse to dismiss it.
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No more appropriate meme for this wacko board than this. Cue the juvenile attempts to incorporate this meme by the subject of the meme---Trumpsters! LOL
I don't know why so many have you on ignore. Comedy gold.
But, but, all the libs on here were excited about that.
it was Trump’s own DHS and everything!
Some great info here on what's really happening in GA. Sounds like your governor and sos are total crooks. Hopefully Lin can bring them down.
Whether he's a POS or not is irrelevant to the fact he has kept us out of wars, fought to bring troops home from endless and pointless battles, brokered several Middle East peace deals. Stood up to China (more than likely leading to the release of the china flu, IMO), lowered mine and many many others taxes. Had the economy roaring at historic levels. Made it to where there were more jobs available than people to fill them, meaning job security for millions and millions. Brought a lot of manufacturing back from overseas and Mexico. Worked to secure our borders. raised wages for the lowest paid Americans without having to force a $15 minimum wage referendum down our throats. Created Opportunity Zones in underserved and mostly minority areas, made HBCU funding permanent, managed to get a Prison Reform act passed, releasing a lot of non-violent offenders who didn't deserve to be locked up for the length of time they were.
There isn't a sane human being out there who can dispute that any of those achievements helped American's of ALL walks of life. but because Trumps a meany and gives you the feels, on top of the fact that most of those achievements also get in the way of the left and the rest of the world implementing their Great Reset and Globalist agenda.
Nobody gave a shit about Trumps past. He has been a larger than life public figure since the 70's/80's. If ANYONE didn't know what kind of person Trump was before he ran for President, they were living under a rock. The biggest reason for the Trump hate fest and demonizing is because he dared expose the deep state and it's corruption. He brought it to the forefront and I guess exposing other POS's for their POS criminal, treasonous, behavior makes him enemy number 1. Considering all the great things he was able to accomplish with the weight of the world bearing down on him, he's the best POS we could have asked for. I can personally attest that my life was better and improved under a Trump presidency, regardless of how much of a POS he ever was. My job was more secure than ever, I was taking more of my paycheck home than ever, my 401K was doing great. The industry I work in was booming.
I honestly challenge you to explain how my life will be better or continue to improve under Harris/Biden. I really need to know and understand how his policies will continue to improve my life?
And for reference, I'm an in-house Architect for a Large Restaurant Franchisee, just so you can't blow it off by saying you don't know my situation.
Hopefully it's just anxiety and you'll be ok
Yep that's why this is such an important stand even if it doesn't work. They can't feel comfortable enough to cheat like this again especially in Ga in January. Because if they win that...
Because they're much further in their race than anyone else. If covid was a mile long run, Sweden is at the .8 or .9 mark. Everyone else (especially their neighbors) are at .3 or so.
The lack of critical thinking in people that attack the swedes is a great illustration of how we got here.
Where are you seeing that? This shows Sweden lower than US and many Euro countries.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
ur right... sorry i looked up world o meter on my phone and i mixed up a number ...i thought it said 172 for the US.... that was the average for every country.... iphones suck at statistical pages like that....
Sweet. Now we get to set our own laws when we are in our homes? Mine is a tax free zone!
Cue the Alanis Morrisette music.
Both sides believe the lies they are being fed and if you think otherwise....well....you are believing the lies.
Both sides believe the lies they are being fed and if you think otherwise....well....you are believing the lies.
No more appropriate meme for this wacko board than this. Cue the juvenile attempts to incorporate this meme by the subject of the meme---Trumpsters! LOL
Now wait a damn minute. You are having a crisis like that and yet posting on a message board? GTFO.
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Go jump your loon ass into the GD Ohio River and shut the hell up.
The shot must be 100% effective - whether you get it or not.
But wait the liberals and media have told us for months that Trump is the only one who has blown it when it comes to Covid.
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Prayers for you dude. Keep the thread updated when you can.
A little reminder of the crap Obama pulled on Trump coming into office:
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You say you work in a Hospital, Are you able to elaborate on what you do there? Are you working directly with COVID patients? It would be nice to get a level of understanding from someone on the front lines about the illness. how many of the patients are there fighting Covid and ONLY Covid. How many have multiple comorbidities which are complicated by COVID? What would you say the average age of the Patients is? I guess my question is are all of the lockdown measures necessary for lower risk demographics? or would we be better off focusing the efforts on protecting the highest risk people knowing that low risk people who get it will basically have nothing more than a flu bug.
My 19 year old son got it while at UK. he lives with his brother and two other roommates in an apartment. They made them all self quarantine. My Son recovered with only mild symptoms in about 3-4 days. His Brother and roommates never tested positive despite being exposed to him. My neighbers 26 year old Med student son up in Michigan went through a similar scenario. Had a roommate come down with it, they all isolated with him but never tested positive for it.
I hate wearing a mask. I hate the feeling, I hate the mental control aspect of it, but like a good boy, I do it where I'm asked to. When outside the confines of my office at work, and in the stores. I take it off once I'm outdoors. It's a shitty homemade mask. Most of the masks people are wearing are shitty chinese made masks or homemade masks. they honestly aren't protecting much. people constantly fiddle with them, you know damn good and well they aren't getting washed after every use, so what point are they really serving other than mental comfort?
You’re the ignorant ass. You can hug my left nut.
I'm sure he will be. But Abrams nearly beat Kemp. Doesnt look good for the next election there. But Kemp dug his own grave.
If it’s easier for you to believe that the FBI, CIA, NSA, DoD and hundreds and hundreds of politicians on both sides of the aisle are in a grand conspiracy to overthrow Trump versus the idea that he botched the response to the biggest crisis of our lifetimes resulting in his loss what’s the point of discussion? If you think everyone and everything is against you there’s a diagnosis for that.
But the taxpayers pay for it. That is our media. So, it must be true.
Vernon Jones.
Deep down, I think they want to dodge this situation (even if it costs T the election), and then clean up the mess after Jan 20.
Addressing it head on now is going to expose a bunch of dirty secrets.
If the Democrats have nothing to hide than why are they hiding? Just do a full audit and recanvass in Georgia like they said they were going to do. If it doesn't turn out any major irregularities I think most Republicans would accept it. They won't though because they're hiding something major.
Crisis?! LOL Covid is way overblown horseshit. Yes, it’s real. It is blown out of proportion, though.
The only transparent thing about Trump is his lack of intellect. How can you call someone who stonewalls every investigation, “transparent”? Someone who refuses to comply with subpoenas, refused to allow people to testify, as “transparent”?
Bill, it took the Trump U lawsuit 3 yrs to get settled,,,that is rather typical especially when one party purposely draws things out. Trump has been sued like 3600 times...it’s what he does
Hows that repeal and replacement of ObamaCare coming? Where is that wall? Mexico paid for anything yet? We’ve discussed NAFTA...the new agreement is nearly identical and has made very little difference. Come Jan 21 there will be little left of Trump’s so-called accomplishments. A lot of EOs that will disappear. How has China been held account for anything? Because he mean Tweeted them?
Trump insulted our allies and gave comfort to dictators who knew to stroke him with kind words to sooth his ego and they can get away with anything.
He has lied to the American people non-stop even before he was elected... how many conspiracies did he give life?
He told you what you wanted to hear so you would give him unconditional loyalty. He played to his base, I guess acting like a jackass made them all feel better about thems
So very true. They conduct themselves (not all) just like they did in the Old Testament. Reject the very God that delivered them.
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