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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%

  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%
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starchief5 said:
It is this "crowd", along with most sensible people left in this country, who, barring some kind of catastrophic collapse (keep your fingers crossed), are going to reelect Donald Trump in very possibly a landslide.
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And I hope the next four years after that the Republican Party grows a pair and starts doing what they were elected for instead of making excuses. I mean NAIL all this waste fraud and abuse...Cut it Out
 
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BBUK said:
And I hope the next four years after that the Republican Party grows a pair and starts doing what they were elected for instead of making excuses. I mean NAIL all this waste fraud and abuse...Cut it Out
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If he wins again he'll get another seat on scotus. They absolutely must challenge the legality of unfettered birthright citizenship.

No citizenship unless one parent was legally present or a legal citizen.

One cannot pass more than they have. Those are inheritance rules, that also follow sound logic. They should absolutely apply here.
 
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That settles it. I must vote for Warren. The more I learn about her the more I admire her.

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Sawnee Cat said:
Matthews has always been one of those "holier than thou" commentators.
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Matthews will do anything for a dollar. Anything... he is the Bill Walton of announcers except Walton is honestly like he is...it is not a put on with Walton...
 
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I think Matthews is terrible at his job, but this is as weak of sexual harassment as it gets.

"Why haven’t I fallen in love with you yet"
"Keep putting makeup on her, I’ll fall in love with her"

If this is sexual harassment, I could've sued for sexual harassment at every job Ive worked at. I cant recall how many times Ive heard something like, "You're way too cute to be working on computers" or something like that.

I understand he has been on the believe all women train and all that. But this should just end up with a slap on the wrist and tell him to knock off the stupid flirting at work.
 
kywildcatsfannumber1 said:
For me, leave the merit of the claims aside for a moment. It's the hypocrisy of the holier than thou among us that get caught up in anything remotely close. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. He's a blow hard and deserves whatever criticism he gets as he did for so many others in the past.
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I totally understand that part and not denying that at all. I find it hilarious when these holier than thou people's hypocrisy gets shown to the public.

Im just also stating, this is as weak as it gets when it comes to sexual harassment and as much as I like seeing the hypocrisy getting a light shown on it. Id rather have this MeToo era come to an end.
 
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UKBrassowTipIN said:
Name one govt program thats saved money. Trick question because there isnt one.

If you all are going to constantly claim we are trying to be denmark atleast be honest about their system. As in they have a homogeneous population of a couple million, have little if any immigration with restrictions for care on those foreigners and immigrants. Much different than 300 million diverse ppl with various genetic make ups, and a candidate that wants to ease immigration even more. Not to mention Denmarks healthcare is managed at a local level, not the federal level. Denmark allows supplemental private insurance, m4a does not. Denmark also regulates there has to be certain number of practitioners per population and number of beds in hospitals per population area. For the US to match it would have to quadruple its provider number while simultaneously cutting reimbursement rates which is what m4a wants to do.

Oh, and denmark doesnt have the record of medical innovation we do which again would be hamstringed by the price controls senator Santa claus is pushing.

All of these issues hes talking about are complex operating systems that hes clueless about, yet in all of your minds it's as easy as tax then dump money. The benefit Bernie is proposing far exceeds anything offered anywhere. Hes either an idiot or being dishonest. Its one of the two.

Not to mention, good or bad, capitalism will always win as you, contrary to what Bernie thinks, you cant corral people to all behave uniformly to what you think is right. Providers will challenge legally the definition of insurance and the best providers will find a cash system. Creating an even larger gap in care. You think top notch specialists wants to earn the same as barely passes med school but is a doctor?

It's all nonsense anyway.. things can look fun on paper. But reality is a whole other thing....one we live in.

I have excellent insurance right now, why do I want to pay more in taxes?
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People like these guys don' understand about government run health care. I have it in TRI-CARE and it is terrible. I have to use post facilities or pay out of pocket for going outside of the network. They have some doctors but many that I have to see are PA's. Yes they can refer me out but, that generally doesn't get very good doctors.
 
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UKfan34 said:
That is a Great question and an honest one at that. It's also a very hard question.
With fMRI brain imaging we can see how humans react emotionally and cognitively to certain situations/cues. Out of these studies have come more information about what makes us happy, sad, nervous, etc. Of course there is variation but through this imaging and other research there are some indications. Significant is that our human nature as we have evolved emphasizes belonging and community perhaps to a greater degree than competition or even self efficacy. Our brains thrive when we feel connected or understood. Competition is also a motivator, but an overemphasis on this leads to distress long term; you want to keep this available but in check. Alfed Adler was right--belonging is key, because our identity is formed in relationships.

So we don't sing Kumbaya and hold hands and just meditate. But we realize, to me, that the economists who very clearly said they knew about human nature were wrong. Milton Friedman way overemphasized the positive role of competition--and, more importantly, he was not a sociologist, psychologist, or anthropologist--he was an economist crunching numbers from the Chicago School. Presidents from Reagan, Clinton, Bushes, Obama, etc. operated from Friedman's paradigm and essentially is a supply side approach. 40 years of evidence says that this approach is great at creating innovation but very poor at giving most people a decent standard of living, as it creates more poverty than it solves.

From these studies on human nature and happiness, we are quite happy if we have a decent standard of living but have good connections and relationships with family and community. Also, as Freud said, if we like our work that is very important. Overall, there is some, but not much, difference in happiness/satisfaction ratings between the person making $110,000 per year vs. say $3 million per year and up. There is some evidence that the higher you go in earnings the greater increase for potential for dissatisfaction.

Poverty, and say, "barely making it", almost always results in spikes in unhappiness,dissatisfaction. Some results of this: Increased violence, drug use, depression, etc.

So, to the question, we begin with understanding what we know about what works and then have more of the conversation. The way we've been going is having a flawed economic and human nature philosophy pulling us around by the nose as we just say "keep digging". So for right now we may think about stopping digging. This "system" works very, very well for a small percentage of people and that is no accident.
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False and overly long winded. This system happens to have more people out of poverty than most and those (Findland and the like) who's system people want to point to use Capitalism to fund their economies.
 
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UKfan34 said:
I never felt that I was bitching. Just joining in on a discussion, I thought.

Wage growth per the Bureau of Labor statistics has been rising since 2012 and continued on a consistent growth path until 2019 when it decreased significantly. Overall, since 2012 wage growth is up but "far below target recovery" since the 2008 collapse.

There are more jobs than available workers. The labor statistics shown that there are a ton of service jobs out there. Its pretty basic, because employers do not have to compete with other employers offering higher wages, wages are stagnant. And we know what these jobs are: McDonald's, Speedway, etc. I see a future of a service economy in the US serving the affluent. Once again, CapEx has been in a full recession--nothing is being manufactured.

I know happy people too. I happen to be one of them.

NAFTA was 1994 and I have a few years but that has been a bit of a long time.

If I was to bitch, I would make a statement that the reason many people are so angry, depressed, etc...as statistics of despair--depression, violence, suicide, drug use/overdose--continue to increase have something more to do with structures and systems that are man made. Reason I'm concerned is that it is part of my vocation and have found that there are some approaches that work on a macro level to help people get their lives back on track. It just makes sense that if some things begin to work for people then we may want to make it known.

Or, I could be someone who says gimme mine, eff em, I got my gun and canned goods.
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False, many are bitching because they are told they deserve more without trying. This country says if you want it, go get it. Unfortunately we have a political system on the left that promises the world at others expense.
 
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TheFrontRunner said:
So an account that started in 2004 all of a sudden pops up here...this person is the type that obviously likes listening to himself talk cause he writes in chapters that no one will read...yet oddly has less than 50 messages in 15 plus years?
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When they talk/type too much it generally tells you that they are trying to sell you a line of BS.
 
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