“Freedom of healthcare”. Exactly what Bill C stated about Obamacare. Just the first step to a single payer system.
govt insurance is the worst in the world
govt insurance is the worst in the world
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A 20 yr old bratty rich kid with a worthless college history degree is lecturing people on health care. Double face palm
This position only works if treatment is denied to all those who choose not to get insurance or can't pay.
So Sanders also wants to extend all of these services to immigrants who come here illegally. Wants free college, and to ban Fracking on day one putting hundreds of thousands out of work with no means of transition in place for those people. He wants to pretty much double my taxes to pay for all of these programs. Programs that I have no skin in. What happens when my taxes suddenly double and I’m no longer able to afford the home I’ve worked hard for? What happens to all of us regular middle class joes who have reliable and decent paying jobs who just want to live our lives like we’ve been used to. What happens to all those workers that lose their jobs when the Fracking ban kicks in. Where do they go? Tell me which country has successfully implemented the systems Sanders wants to implement but also extends all of those systems to any and every person who enters the country illegally. Please tell me how that gets paid for.
It’s a graduate degree that pays me over $100k a year in low tax state. I live great. Parents were poor and I didn’t settle.
Some of us didn’t get the silver spoon like you
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Your positron only works if all who can't pay can't get treatment.
Oh, and what kind of job did that History degree land you? Just curious. What are the options for someone with that degree coming out of college?
Dion gives us rich bratty kids in our 20s (Im in my last year of my 20s haha) a bad look haha. Not all of us turn into socialists.
Drawing a line for gun control with today's socialist minded left is dangerous. The second amendment was put in the constitution to protect us against the type of government today's left wants. No compromises until socialist/fascist/communist attitudes are gone from this country
Haven't read the Koran but seen enough excepts from that book and Marx to not have to. Both are completely wrong headed.
As we’ve seen in the case of AOC, an economics degree will get you a job tending a bar.
Just a reminder. No socialist ever gives their own money first to the greater good.
But I guess you’ll be just perfectly fine being taxed into oblivion to pay for every body else’s education.
Yeah but, you antifa nut jobs would only use it on those who don't fight back like the elderly or people walking with their small children. Go somewhere where they fight back and you won't get a chance to use it.
Goddamnit. This is so wrong it's infuriating. "What's good for the country" is not destroying an industry that is damn near 10 ****ing percent of the GDP. An industry that employs millions of people (and has a preponderance of excellent-paying jobs available to people who may not have an education beyond high school) and of which fracking is a significant and rising portion of the industry. An industry that gives critical optionality to our leaders when it comes to foreign policy issues. An industry that pays many, many billions in taxes (at an effective rate way above that of most industries). An industry that has actually enabled the United States to cut carbon emissions the most of any country this century because LNG replacing coal is quite clean.
Sanders' idiotic proposition to ban fracking and oil and gas exports is one of the worst proposals of any President I can remember in my lifetime. It is also predictably stupid when two of the most critical states he has to win - Pennsylvania and Ohio - both have large energy sectors based off hydraulic fracturing.
I have a graduate degree in economics and work in a field in which I have to use it every day, and I think it's pretty clear you don't know what the hell you're talking about with this.
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I don't believe that at all. What else are they going to do when you don't comply with their dictates?
Destroying the economy is not good for the country. Just ask those who are fleeing other socialist style countries to come here or are they just coming here to get free stuff their country is not providing like food, water, housing, etc... oh, but they are getting free healthcare though. Are they? A free education maybe on how they will never have anything unless they fight for it or leave the country.
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Yeah I love those tough hooded dasturbs that like to blind-side old people or any who can't defend themselves. They be so tough... I wonder why they don't attack a group of young men who are ready??? Heck a group of young women too. They used to call that being a chicken schmidt...candy arse...
In the history of the world, no economic system is better than capitalism when it comes to upward mobility. None. Not even close.
1) healthcare and health insurance are not the same thing. This is a strawman the left continue to use.
2) Neither are legal or constitutional rights. No one is entitled to them. Even yet everyone has some form of health insurance even if it's Medicaid.
So everyone that wants health insurance has it. They may not have the plan they want. But that's an even different issue.
They never give it at all. Libs always have great ideas for everyone else. Just like Bernie and his homes. Warren and her private jets. Countless examples
Laziness for many will do that for them especially when enabled by socialist programs.
I agree it's a long term position that would have negative local impact in the short term. That's why his proposal includes plans for transitioning those workers. You're thinking small. Doing away with private insurance will also destroy an industry that employees thousands. The question is whether these jobs should exist at all and then you worry about how to transition the people in them. As to getting votes in Ohio and Pennsylvania, yeah you're right. He's putting principle above personal interest. Exactly like a politician should.
I’m still in the belief that Bernie has no intention of being President, or the nominee.
He’s in it for the payoff to go away. If Hilary paid him $600000 to exit and get behind her, just imagine what Bloomberg would be willing to pay.
He’s in it for the payoff to go away. If Hilary paid him $600000 to exit and get behind her, just imagine what Bloomberg would be willing to pay.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. There are WHOLE lot more that need to be in jail.
You know who I blame? The legal system that is near taken over by liberal lawyers who never go by the letter of the law. They "plea" bargain. what does that do? It makes the lawyers MORE MONEY. (Yeah, judges too...)
IF you punished criminals to the fullest extent of the law a WHOLE lot of would be criminals would think twice before trying crime... Yeah, that's how it works...
So now you’re deciding which jobs should and should not exist? What’s the principle in destroying people’s livelihood?
You’re being played, Bernie isn’t going to eliminate fracking or fossil fuels, because he can’t. How long do you think people would go along with rolling blackouts? Which is exactly what you’d have if you go to all renewables.
He intends to tax the shit out of it, because he knows we have to have it. Does that sound swell to you?
My retirement plans would be pushed into my 70's under a system opined for by Bernie because of taxation required for his plans. My plans to retire are within in the next 2 to 4 years as it stands.
False, he has no plan for transitioning only talk to get elected and then destroy the economy with ridiculous ideas that have never worked. Neither has he by the way.
You are a total fraud. You're a history major that doesnt know anything about history. I ask an honest question regarding your vast historical knowledge and all I get in return are Bernie campaign talking points that have zero to do with the question asked. You dance around real questions rather than engage in a true debate or discussion.
Dont get me wrong though, I totally understand why you act in such a manner. When your position is as whacked out as yours, using real data wont get you very far. Therefore you must resort to diversion and degrading your opponent. I hoped to have a real discussion with an American socialist, but all I got was the normal drivel of DNC talking points.
Venezuela said that about energy too
went from the one of the best economies to a shit show
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