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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
Just curious, if everything is so great UNDER the Trump* admin, why are the same people on here spewing the same shit on here 16-18 hrs a day? Reap the benefits or spend time on a message board. *3rd POTUS in history impeached
You mean you can reap the benefits on all of those liberal news stations but not on a chat room? Is stupid really a prerequisite to joining the demasocialist party?

Here is one for you:
If everything is so great in those socialist/communist countries why is everyone flocking to America?
 
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Had me laughing at this one.
 
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He was impeached. The house impeached. The Senate (rightfully) acquitted him. That doesn't mean he wasn't impeached.
But, he was not impeached for going against the constitution as the meme reported although that is the excuse they used. He was impeached for doing what he promised and for beating Hillary in the last election. Proof of that is 19 minutes into the inauguration, impeachment was set into motion and talk of it was just after winning the nomination in November. Facts that are not disputed.
 
Actually bill and hill suffer from Kuru
I wear those shoes because of Plantar faciitis. They are that way because of Plantation Fascistitis.
You're in denial man. Over 40% of Nevada's record turnout came from people who had never participated before. And they broke overwhelmingly for Bernie. More than double any other candidate. He got 50% of voters 30-44, next closest Warren at 17%. 65% of voters 17-29, next closest Buttigieg at 11%. That's a movement. A socialist one.
How? You reported record turnout and a base that is energized and he showed you not so in another state. Record turnout in Nevada maybe but, that does not mean everywhere and he referenced so. Denial? Yes, yes you are.
 
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I'm genuinely curious, how old are you and why do you support socialism? Have you actually done any research on its history and what about that history is appealing? I'm truly looking for an honest conversation.
Twenties and yes, if you know my post history you know I'm a history major who's researched the topics at hand extensively. Simply put current crony capitalism is broken. Mike Bloomberg has 64 billion dollars, more than 125 million Americans. Democracies thrive on an informed middle class, made up of workers. When the return on capital gets you more than your labor the parasitic owner class siphons off more and more from the workers actually doing the work and producing.

Bernie Sanders and the current American left are not advocating for seizing the means of production and a fully centrally planned economy. They're just fighting for universal healthcare and an expanded social safety net like the rest of the developed world to round off the rougher edges of capitalism. All this fear-mongering about Soviet Socialism is purely to appeal to your emotions so you vote in the economic interest of the billionaires, not yourself.
 
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Were you around when Jamo used to post here? He was SO sure that Hillary was going to win. In fact, he posted that thought so much that he was too embarrassed to ever post again once she lost. You're one of the few opposing view posters on here that doesn't just spew incoherent garbage. I would kind of like for you to stick around. But you should probably learn from Jamo's mistake and not embarrass yourself into oblivion by excessively predicting a Bernie victory. Just a heads up.
Definitely. I'm not really in the market of predictions; I have no idea what the dominant dynamics of a Trump/Bernie election would be and I'm not predicting a Bernie win. But to deny the demographic trends currently at work within our politics just because you and nobody you know are "socialists" is naive.
 
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Twenties and yes, if you know my post history you know I'm a history major who's researched the topics at hand extensively. Simply put current crony capitalism is broken. Mike Bloomberg has 64 billion dollars, more than 125 million Americans. Democracies thrive on an informed middle class, made up of workers. When the return on capital gets you more than your labor the parasitic owner class siphons off more and more from the workers actually doing the work and producing.

Bernie Sanders and the current American left are not advocating for seizing the means of production and a fully centrally planned economy. They're just fighting for universal healthcare and an expanded social safety net like the rest of the developed world to round off the rougher edges of capitalism. All this fear-mongering about Soviet Socialism is purely to appeal to your emotions so you vote in the economic interest of the billionaires, not yourself.
False. Your non expert opinion has no validity here. And yes, they are advocating for socialism/communism and have stated as much in the past which by the way will seize everything they can get their hands on.
 
Twenties and yes, if you know my post history you know I'm a history major who's researched the topics at hand extensively. Simply put current crony capitalism is broken. Mike Bloomberg has 64 billion dollars, more than 125 million Americans. Democracies thrive on an informed middle class, made up of workers. When the return on capital gets you more than your labor the parasitic owner class siphons off more and more from the workers actually doing the work and producing.

Bernie Sanders and the current American left are not advocating for seizing the means of production and a fully centrally planned economy. They're just fighting for universal healthcare and an expanded social safety net like the rest of the developed world to round off the rougher edges of capitalism. All this fear-mongering about Soviet Socialism is purely to appeal to your emotions so you vote in the economic interest of the billionaires, not yourself.

History major. Lol
what a loser

You rewrite history and learn nothing from past history

socialism will work this time in America!!
 
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Bernie Sanders and the current American left are not advocating for seizing the means of production and a fully centrally planned economy. They're just fighting for universal healthcare and an expanded social safety net like the rest of the developed world to round off the rougher edges of capitalism. .
Single payer healthcare does seize the means of production & is centrally planned, DA. You're brainwashed.
 
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Definitely. I'm not really in the market of predictions; I have no idea what the dominant dynamics of a Trump/Bernie election would be and I'm not predicting a Bernie win. But to deny the demographic trends currently at work within our politics just because you and nobody you know are "socialists" is naive.
Demographics do not determine the future trends. Get over that.
 
Twenties and yes, if you know my post history you know I'm a history major who's researched the topics at hand extensively. Simply put current crony capitalism is broken. Mike Bloomberg has 64 billion dollars, more than 125 million Americans. Democracies thrive on an informed middle class, made up of workers. When the return on capital gets you more than your labor the parasitic owner class siphons off more and more from the workers actually doing the work and producing.

Bernie Sanders and the current American left are not advocating for seizing the means of production and a fully centrally planned economy. They're just fighting for universal healthcare and an expanded social safety net like the rest of the developed world to round off the rougher edges of capitalism. All this fear-mongering about Soviet Socialism is purely to appeal to your emotions so you vote in the economic interest of the billionaires, not yourself.
Twenties? You are still wet behind the ears. Of course you would not understand socialism destroys the middle class. And what is a worker? Is that the same as an employee?

In a democracy or a free society no one forces you to work for any owner. You are free to find another job if you think the "owner" is mistreating you or you are not being paid what you are worth. Only socialist nations practice forced labor and slave labor. If you really think Bernie Sanders will not advocate the seizing of the means of production and a centrally planned economy you are naive or lying to yourself. Bernie Sanders was visiting communist countries and advocating that form of government before you were born. He has not changed, he has hardened in his communist loving position.

You are still young. Why not get a major where you can be productive and advance up the social ladder. Or take a risk and start your own business. Playing around with socialism is a loser and anyone with that mentality is headed for trouble. Karl Marx was not a friend of the human race. Take a visit to Venezuela or Cuba Or any other socialist country on earth. Then come back and look around. See the difference. You really want to throw that away?
 
Definitely. I'm not really in the market of predictions; I have no idea what the dominant dynamics of a Trump/Bernie election would be and I'm not predicting a Bernie win. But to deny the demographic trends currently at work within our politics just because you and nobody you know are "socialists" is naive.

There are absolutely demographic trends. Education failed young people, like you, and should be completely revamped.

The other trend is from untold amounts of those born from illegals. That, while morally debatable, is completely illogical. They should not have citizenship if both parents were illegal.
 
Dion, because he’s in his 20s, thinks his group of peers are more important than any one else. Typical 20 yr old arrogance,narcissism, and delusion. If he and his ilk are the wave of the future then America needs to go ahead and give up before they turn this place into a 3rd world shithole.

best of luck taking our guns, Dion. You’ll need it.
 
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lol does not shock me at all Dionysus is a college student pursuing a degree that has no value on the open market. Of course he wants Bernie to win to save him from his poor choices.

Maybe Dion should take an economics class. Maybe switch his major to something an employer will value so he isn't relying on Bernie to forgive his student loans.
 
Dion, because he’s in his 20s, thinks his group of peers is more important than any one else. Typical 20 yr old arrogance,narcissism, and delusion. If he and his ilk are the wave of the future then America needs to go ahead and give up before they turn this place into a 3rd world shithole.

best of luck taking our guns, Dion. You’ll need it.
I'm not after your guns. The 2nd amendment exists for a variety of legitimate reasons. I grew up in a hunting culture. A reasonable debate on where we draw the line though is needed. A hunting rifle and a nuke are not the same thing. Nobody thinks we have a constitutional right to all arms.
 
Dion, because he’s in his 20s, thinks his group of peers is more important than any one else. Typical 20 yr old arrogance,narcissism, and delusion. If he and his ilk are the wave of the future then America needs to go ahead and give up before they turn this place into a 3rd world shithole.

best of luck taking our guns, Dion. You’ll need it.
I can just see this 20 year old history major walking into Chassahowitzka demanding the boys give up their guns. Oh I would pay to see this
 
lol does not shock me at all Dionysus is a college student pursuing a degree that has no value on the open market. Of course he wants Bernie to win to save him from his poor choices.

Maybe Dion should take an economics class. Maybe switch his major to something an employer will value so he isn't relying on Bernie to forgive his student loans.
I said twenties. Haven't been a student for a good while. And again I have no student loans, Bernie's proposals wouldn't apply to me. Understanding economics and political science are integral to understanding history. I guarantee that you and the majority of this board have not actually read Marx yourself and have no idea what you're really railing at.
 
I'm not after your guns. The 2nd amendment exists for a variety of legitimate reasons. I grew up in a hunting culture. A reasonable debate on where we draw the line though is needed. A hunting rifle and a nuke are not the same thing. Nobody thinks we have a constitutional right to all arms.

If you owned a nuclear weapon, that would do a much better job protecting your right to bear nukes than the second amendment.
 
I'm not after your guns. The 2nd amendment exists for a variety of legitimate reasons. I grew up in a hunting culture. A reasonable debate on where we draw the line though is needed. A hunting rifle and a nuke are not the same thing. Nobody thinks we have a constitutional right to all arms.

we had a reasonable debate. It’s called the formation of the 2nd Amendment.

Debate over. Once you give an inch with you nutjobs, you’ll be taking all rights. So no. No more changes.

you’re in Antifa aren’t you? You’ll never admit it, but you are definitely in Antifa
 
If you owned a nuclear weapon, that would do a much better job protecting your right to bear nukes than the second amendment.
Oh so "Antifa nuts" have a constitutional right to own a nuke, as does every joe blow wife beater down the holler, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev too? That libertarian wet dream is completely impractical and you know it, you're just arguing to argue.
we had a reasonable debate. It’s called the formation of the 2nd Amendment.

Debate over. Once you give an inch with you nutjobs, you’ll be taking all rights. So no. No more changes.

you’re in Antifa aren’t you? You’ll never admit it, but you are definitely in Antifa
Ok Proud Boy.
 
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