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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

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Absolutely, damn that Bloomberg for not making his billions the old fashioned way . . . like having a real estate empire worth hundreds of millions of dollars handed over to you from your daddy.

BTW, regardless of who got their money where between Donnie and Mike, $64 billion > $3 billion.

Look Bushy Bill,

An inflater such as yourself will use any figures to justify.....yourself.

Speaking for "myself" I stated I did not know how bloombooger made his money. I did hint that due to watching him the few times I did it is hard to believe he did it without some help and then took off using what he learned. But, go ahead and "inflate" yourself. It will help you in the "long" run...
 
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Would love to hear one of the lefties try and articulate how the hell a wealth tax would work on these evil billionaires.

They too stupid to realize they would actually have to confiscate their money and not tax it to get it....BUT, you can't tell "them" anything... they so smart...[eyeroll]
 
So you are against people taking risks with their own money to create wealth?

I dont disagree that we need to properly regulate capitalism. However, the "billionaires shouldnt exist, except I need billionaires to fund all my welfare programs" isnt a recipe for longevity.

I'm not against wealth but what I am against is 1/10 of 1% of people controlling over half the worlds wealth.That's never existed in society before and it's dangerous imo.

Take Soros and Bloomberg for instance they used their immense wealth to literally change how our society functions by funding radical politicians to power across the world and even in local state elections.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...tions/65-c051cac9-a78b-4014-8439-795ad6037636




Call me ole fashioned but I think America was fine when mom and pop stores dominated the landscape versus Amazon factories that use imported labor from other countries.

 
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I'm not against wealth but what I am against is 1/10 of 1% of people controlling over half the worlds wealth.That's never existed in society before and it's dangerous imo.

Take Soros and Bloomberg for instance they used their immense wealth to literally change how our society functions by funding radical politicians to power across the world and even in local state elections.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...tions/65-c051cac9-a78b-4014-8439-795ad6037636




Call me ole fashioned but I think America was fine when mom and pop stores dominated the landscape versus Amazon factories that use imported labor from other countries.



I think the big difference between the righties and the lefties is I want to eliminate the billionaire’s ability to buy politicians and direct policy that impacts the entire country. The left wants to eliminate billionaires.
 
As long as these "oligarchs" continue to spend money, create jobs, enable our economy to thrive and grow, and keep people like me gainfully employed and working, then, I'm OK with leaving them alone.

I wish one of you people would explain, rationally, what you actually think the end result of attacking the super wealthy and stripping them of their vast wealth and resources will be? What logical conclusion do you think we will arrive at by doing that?
Talk about hysterical exaggeration. LOL This is sadly comical that you believe such claptrap. You have not a skinnet of knowledge about that which you pontificate about. Read some gosh damn history!!!!
 
BTW, regardless of who got their money where between Donnie and Mike, $64 billion > $3 billion.

It's going to be hilarious to watch democrats shit on Trump for not being as rich as Bloomberg. The funny thing is Bloomberg is almost the perfect person to call out Trumps questionable wealth, but that's going to come off terribly to everyone. Especially the Democrat base who has railed against the 1 percent for the last decade.

They are going to get in a Twitter war about caviar or yachting or something insane.
 
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Absolutely, damn that Bloomberg for not making his billions the old fashioned way . . . like having a real estate empire worth hundreds of millions of dollars handed over to you from your daddy.

BTW, regardless of who got their money where between Donnie and Mike, $64 billion > $3 billion.

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Call me ole fashioned but I think America was fine when mom and pop stores dominated the landscape versus Amazon factories that use imported labor from other countries.

BUT MUH FREE MARKET!!

Republicans have to untether themselves from this delusional libertarian, dogmatic view of the economy. The free market is absolutely more effective than a socialist command economy and, especially for individual transactions, is the only way for an economy to function. But this anything goes so long as someone makes a profit idea has been killing the country for 50 years. If that means the government has to step in and bust up a company like Google or forbid a company from doing the Bain Capital stuff, then OK.
 
BUT MUH FREE MARKET!!

Republicans have to untether themselves from this delusional libertarian, dogmatic view of the economy. The free market is absolutely more effective than a socialist command economy and, especially for individual transactions, is the only way for an economy to function. But this anything goes so long as someone makes a profit has been killing the country for 50 years. If that means the government has to step in and bust up a company like Google or forbid a company from doing the Bain Capital stuff, then OK.

Lol government please save us from CIA government funded Google!
 
Lol government please save us from CIA government funded Google!
Which is exactly why it's so important to drop the ridiculous definition of "small government" that has been promoted by the Koch wing of the right. When we get our guy in there, he needs to start kicking ass and taking names, not twiddle his thumbs and say, "Sure all of my predecessors used the weight of the federal government to total shape the country in a horrible image, but I'm dedicated to small government, so let the market decide!"

That said, I understand that that is likely never going to happen for the very reason you mentioned (CIA and NSA influence)
 
"My Billionaire is a bigger Billionaire than your Billionaire!"

-Dems, now apparently abandoning all prior rhetoric and making the wealth of their leaders a valued characteristic.
 
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Let's go full communist on them. That'll fix it.
When the dems give Bernie their nomination. That will mean that during the last 4 president races. The democrat party would have nominated
2008 - A Muslim
2012 - A Muslim
2016 - A witch
2020 - A Communist
2024 - ??? Probably a homosexual transvestite that's supports beastality
 
I don’t know why I ever show ignored content.

Costco is making “record profits”!!!!! Wowwwww. I’m impressed. Can’t argue with someone who says “record profits”.

That’s what we all are striving for, those “record profits.”*






*no indication of what records or level of profits, but it’s words on a picture so must mean something.
 
democratic socialism fails because it takes wealth productivity from the rich those making 29k + per year and gives it to provide welfare to the less productive. this makes everyone poorer except the bottom decile.

it will only make you (people like the leftists that post here) happier because it lessens your envy; there are more people with the same problems as you (which they blame on the government not spending enough instead of the super rich) and less people with more wealth to envy.

by all other measures your lives will be worse.
 
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Which is exactly why it's so important to drop the ridiculous definition of "small government" that has been promoted by the Koch wing of the right. When we get our guy in there, he needs to start kicking ass and taking names, not twiddle his thumbs and say, "Sure all of my predecessors used the weight of the federal government to total shape the country in a horrible image, but I'm dedicated to small government, so let the market decide!"

That said, I understand that that is likely never going to happen for the very reason you mentioned (CIA and NSA influence)

There's a huge difference between the "muh free market" of Ron Paul and Charlie Kirk. One is a a rehearsed figurehead trying to get paid, and the other is the embodiment of an ideal congress person. One of their worldviews makes sense, and the other has no worldview.
 
I think Ron Paul's belief in a "free market" is sincere, whereas Charlie Kirk's is phony. I don't think that makes Ron Paul's any more correct. The fact of the matter is, the Earth is divided up into nation-states. The people in charge of those nation-states (even the small, weak ones) have tremendous amounts of power. As long as ours is up for grabs every 4 years, we have to stop acting like we aren't under actual attack. The "market" will not sort out the stuff the Left has in store for us. The "market" will not sort out the next housing crisis or the opiod epidemic.

You can make a convincing case that, in a lab like setting with everyone playing by the rules, the market could correct those things. But this isn't a lab. We're too far down the rabbit hole to just pretend like playing by the rules really hard will change these things.
 
I think Ron Paul's belief in a "free market" is sincere, whereas Charlie Kirk's is phony. I don't think that makes Ron Paul's any more correct. The fact of the matter is, the Earth is divided up into nation-states. The people in charge of those nation-states (even the small, weak ones) have tremendous amounts of power. As long as ours is up for grabs every 4 years, we have to stop acting like we aren't under actual attack. The "market" will not sort out the stuff the Left has in store for us. The "market" will not sort out the next housing crisis or the opiod epidemic.

You can make a convincing case that, in a lab like setting with everyone playing by the rules, the market could correct those things. But this isn't a lab. We're too far down the rabbit hole to just pretend like playing by the rules really hard will change these things.

So, you are in favor of the wall.;)
 
No. Charlie would argue something like "we live in a largely free market, just need some minor adjustments", everyone's hero would start bashing the imperial wars then lead the crowd in a chant of "end the fed". Fundamentally different beliefs.
 
The housing crisis and opioid epidemic. Two industries with significant federal government involvement. I think I’d rather take my chance with the free market.
The point is we should be electing people who will actually use their power to do something about it. And before it's laughed at that someone would actually be elected and do that, I would like to add it's still about 1000% more likely than a President being elected and just slashing every regulation so that we get some real free market energy flowing.

At best, we'll get exactly what we've had in the past. "Deregulation" that conveniently deregulates exactly what the leaders of the affected industry want to stop doing.
 
I'm not against wealth but what I am against is 1/10 of 1% of people controlling over half the worlds wealth.That's never existed in society before and it's dangerous imo.

Take Soros and Bloomberg for instance they used their immense wealth to literally change how our society functions by funding radical politicians to power across the world and even in local state elections.

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...tions/65-c051cac9-a78b-4014-8439-795ad6037636




Call me ole fashioned but I think America was fine when mom and pop stores dominated the landscape versus Amazon factories that use imported labor from other countries.

And what does it mean for the future? The wealth just keeps on accumulating when the rate of return on capital is so high. Doesn't matter whether it's Soros, the Kochs, or Oprah the reality is the world is run by a tiny handful of unelected people with no accountability.
 
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Ohhhh campaign finance violations. Didn't think of that. Sounds like there might be something there. Can someone just donate as much as they want and be invited to a debate?

I knew that would be someones opinion of what I stated and that's the popular take whenever someone is critical of the ruling classes wealth and power but those elites have shipped our jobs overseas, imported millions of foreigners to take our jobs, spent 100's of millions of dollars if not billions to flip elections to their favor so they can frame society how they see fit, etc. I'll take a hard pass on defending them.

Yes. Nothing would solve the problem of too much power at the top like consolidating said power into one president.

The reality is the left isn't pissed that so few have so much. It's that said few won't do exactly what lefties want.
 
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BUT MUH FREE MARKET!!

Republicans have to untether themselves from this delusional libertarian, dogmatic view of the economy. The free market is absolutely more effective than a socialist command economy and, especially for individual transactions, is the only way for an economy to function. But this anything goes so long as someone makes a profit idea has been killing the country for 50 years. If that means the government has to step in and bust up a company like Google or forbid a company from doing the Bain Capital stuff, then OK.

That isn't what the free market is.
 
A BUNCH from BOTH parties. Find them, remove them, and prosecute them. Yeah, a fat chance with the attorney lobby and their hand in the kitty...
Key word BOTH parties. It is as much a GOP thing as a Democrat. Listen to them come to the aid of Joe Biden. Both parties. I know Lindsey Graham is riding high right now with us "Trumpsters" but based on his history I do not trust him. People will have to go to jail before I have confidence in the system. Graham was best buds with John McCain then Ole' John just up and died on him with the Big C. Now Lindsey is suddenly Trump's best friend. I wonder how many times Graham made trips to foreign countries selling foreing aid. Will we ever know.
 
Ohhhh campaign finance violations. Didn't think of that. Sounds like there might be something there. Can someone just donate as much as they want and be invited to a debate?



Yes. Nothing would solve the problem of too much power at the top like consolidating said power into one president.

The reality is the left isn't pissed that so few have so much. It's that said few won't do exactly what lefties want.

Hmmm, So you're saying it's a violation of campaign finance laws to give me money to Super PAC's that promote a given candidate or to give money to a political party who then funnels that money to promote that given candidate. As Donald Trump says....WRONG!

The amount you can give as an individual or corporation is limited (I Believe $3,000) but there other ways to skirt those laws. As noted above.
 
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At first I thought this was a parody or fake tweet

I would love to hear from the socialists on here about this tweet. This is truly an embarrassing tweet.

There will be an abundance of goods so great, that payment wouldn't be required and money would then become useless. This will also lead to the police no longer being needed.

I will say one thing from this is true, the value of money would wither away. Ive watched a lot on what has happened down in Venezuela and yup the value of money has completely withered away. People use money as napkins and make baskets and bags with money, because it's more valuable that way.
 
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BUT MUH FREE MARKET!!

Republicans have to untether themselves from this delusional libertarian, dogmatic view of the economy. The free market is absolutely more effective than a socialist command economy and, especially for individual transactions, is the only way for an economy to function. But this anything goes so long as someone makes a profit idea has been killing the country for 50 years. If that means the government has to step in and bust up a company like Google or forbid a company from doing the Bain Capital stuff, then OK.
They need to bust up a company like Google for a lot more reasons than money.
 
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