POLITICAL THREAD

[Bill Derington]

Is it possible to not let crazy people get guns?

At this point I’m not sure.

There are probably more guns floating around in Texas than kids who can read on their respective grade-level. Banning them will do nothing.

It’ll be 200 years or more before America figures it out. We should all die a natural death before that, but the odds of getting shot by a stranger while buying shampoo at Target are higher than ever.

There has always been guns floating around, it isn’t a new concept. The question is what is causing people to think shooting a bunch of innocent citizens a good idea?
What has changed in society the last 30-40 years, or are we simply focused on it now?

 

[the nail at the foul line]

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/31/7562...game-injures-multiple-teens-in-mobile-alabama

Shooting in Mobile at High School football game. Press not on this for some reason.

I linked NPR....

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Bill Derington]

What has changed in society the last 30-40 years?

The internet, a 24-hour global news cycle, and way more guns in America.

Or is “rap music and violent video games” the more appropriate response?

There aren’t anymore guns in America now than there were prior. Access to guns is a lot tougher now than ever before.

Society has changed, it isn’t the guns that have caused it.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

Despite mass shootings, number of households owning guns is on the decline
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/despit...-of-households-owning-guns-is-on-the-decline/

The number of American households with guns has dropped 19 percentage points from 50 percent in 1977 to 31 percent in 2014

 

[BigBlueDave]

but the odds of getting shot by a stranger while buying shampoo at Target are higher than ever.

What are those odds?

1:1
1:2
1:1000
1:1,000,000?

 

[USSLair]

Start the month with two mass shooting incidents, end the month with one. I guess that’s...”progress.”

SMH

Now folks can’t even go to Home Depot on the weekends without getting shot.

We will do nothing in response.

Thoughts and prayers though, right?

I'm not going to do shit except carry a gun. I own more than fingers and toes

Never shot anyone.

Cry me a river about evil and insane people.

 

[USSLair]

Is it possible to not let crazy people get guns?

At this point I’m not sure.

There are probably more guns floating around in Texas than kids who can read on their respective grade-level. Banning them will do nothing.

It’ll be 200 years or more before America figures it out. We should all die a natural death before that, but the odds of getting shot by a stranger while buying shampoo at Target are higher than ever.

Well Obama gave a shit ton to Mexican criminals? Might be a problem?

 

[DwayneMeighan]

It's a trophies for losers, everybody is a winner, pc culture problem. Young people these days are raised fragile and frail. Also victim culture and viral culture play a part.

Millennials can't handle adversity because they've been pampered their entire lives. After getting a taste of the real world they play the helpless victim and lash out in a way to go viral even if it's in infamy.

Also I'm not super religious but even a half ass believer like me can see that the further away this country gets from God the worse off it becomes.

 

[USSLair]

Partycat is 420 just to let you know.

No one is that dumb.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

I want the craziest people having guns.

 

[KRJ1975]

It's a trophies for losers, everybody is a winner, pc culture problem. Young people these days are raised fragile and frail. Also victim culture and viral culture play a part.

Millennials can't handle adversity because they've been pampered their entire lives. After getting a taste of the real world they play the helpless victim and lash out in a way to go viral even if it's in infamy.

Also I'm not super religious but even a half ass believer like me can see that the further away this country gets from God the worse off it becomes.

The US is the most religious western nation in the world. Doesn’t seem to help with the shootings at all.

 

[KRJ1975]

What are those odds?

1:1
1:2
1:1000
1:1,000,000?

Still like getting hit by lightning probably. Doesn’t mean it’s ok.

I’d also point out that the odds of getting killed by a radical Islamic terrorist are infinitesimal, but we sure spend a ****load of money on war while doing nothing about mass shootings.

 

[warrior-cat]

What has changed in society the last 30-40 years?

The internet, a 24-hour global news cycle, and way more guns in America.

Or is “rap music and violent video games” the more appropriate response?

Liberal attitude, lack of discipline, taking God out of the equation, devaluing life by killing babies. Do guns kill babies in the womb? Guns don't kill people, evil people do.

 

[warrior-cat]

The US is the most religious western nation in the world. Doesn’t seem to help with the shootings at all.

Not Christians doing the killing. God has been taken out of the equation more and more. Can't blame Christianity for this.

 

[KRJ1975]

Not Christians doing the killing. God has been taken out of the equation more and more. Can't blame Christianity for this.

I’m not, not at all. But god has been taken out of the equation even more in other first world countries but we don’t see the constant barrage of mass executions like we do here.

 

[warrior-cat]

I’m not, not at all. But god has been taken out of the equation even more in other first world countries but we don’t see the constant barrage of mass executions like we do here.

You don't hear about them but people are dying by their governments in larger numbers in many of these third world countries.

 

[BigBlueDave]

Are the odds greater of being black and shot in Chicago or white and shot in any target in the USA?

 

[Bill Derington]

The US is the most religious western nation in the world. Doesn’t seem to help with the shootings at all.

It’s not nearly as religious as it was, and as the number dwindles society keeps getting worse.

 

[Ed323232]

Well Obama gave a shit ton to Mexican criminals? Might be a problem?

Or aggressive aholes like you who measure their manhood by him many guns they own. If any of my sons grow up anything like you I'll kill myself. Your dad is either just like you or incredibly disappointed in you.

 

[Ed323232]

It’s not nearly as religious as it was, and as the number dwindles society keeps getting worse.

Or fake religious like trump

 

[DwayneMeighan]

The US is the most religious western nation in the world. Doesn’t seem to help with the shootings at all

So? No one said it was the sole reason. Also I'm not talking specifically about the shootings.

Generally speaking this country isn't better off if we're all a bunch of faithless, godless sinners who instead are cult like members praying at the alter of Gaea. Balance like with everything is key.

If you disagree then we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

[KRJ1975]

Are the odds greater of being black and shot in Chicago or white and shot in any target in the USA?

Well, that depends. How many people are black and in gang areas in Chicago? They choose to be there, so they know the risks.

I’m white and choose to live in Suburban KY and also choose not to visit gang areas in Chicago, so me (and a few hundred million others) have a better chance of the latter.

 

[KRJ1975]

You don't hear about them but people are dying by their governments in larger numbers in many of these third world countries.

Well that’s a big goalpost move from the conversation we were having.

 

[Bill Derington]

Or fake religious like trump

Good lord, you are eat up with Trump.

 

[KRJ1975]

So? No one said it was the sole reason. Also I'm not talking specifically about the shootings.

Generally speaking this country isn't better off if we're all a bunch of faithless, godless sinners who instead are cult like members praying at the alter of Gaea. Balance like with everything is key.

If you disagree then we'll have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

I’m an atheist. Doesn’t mean I’m part of a weird cult. Not sure what you’re trying to say here - that everyone who isn’t a practicing Christian is an evil cultist?

 

[Ed323232]

Good lord, you are eat up with Trump.

Just his fakeness.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

Well, that depends. How many people are black and in gang areas in Chicago? They choose to be there, so they know the risks.

This is a strawman. A vast amount of victims in Chicago aren't gang members. Don't forget the majority of those neighborhoods are normal everyday good people who aren't there by choice. They deserve safe streets for themselves and their children just like the rest of us

 

[Bill Derington]

Just his fakeness.

We aren’t talking about Trump right now, Ed.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

I’m an atheist. Doesn’t mean I’m part of a weird cult. Not sure what you’re trying to say here - that everyone who isn’t a practicing Christian is an evil cultist?

When did I ever mention Christianity? Your bias is showing.

 

[warrior-cat]

Well that’s a big goalpost move from the conversation we were having.

No, it goes along with our 2nd amendment right of owning a gun for protections against others and an oppressive government. Plus, we are not even top 30 most dangerous (for its citizens) countries in the world.

 

[Ed323232]

We aren’t talking about Trump right now, Ed.

You are always talking about your daddy.

 

[KRJ1975]

When did I ever mention Christianity? Your bias is showing.

You didn’t, but as part of the more holistic conversation, warrior did.

I’m quite sure you’re not advocating for more people to take up Islam. Judaism? Maybe that’s what you meant.

 

[KRJ1975]

No, it goes along with our 2nd amendment right of owning a gun for protections against others and an oppressive government. Plus, we are not even top 30 most dangerous (for its citizens) countries in the world.

Right, but the salient point we were discussing was whether more religion = less mass shootings. I pointed out that we lead the western world in number of religious people, and also lead going away in mass shootings, so I don’t see the correlation.

 

[KRJ1975]

My father just passed away from cancer two months ago. I would happily shoot your POS shit disgusting face with a shot gun.

Go **** kids and once you get arrested jail and prison will do it's work.

Sorry to hear about your dad USS. Mine died in 2004. It eventually gets easier and the hurt will diminish. Hang in there. Also, fvck cancer.

 

[warrior-cat]

We are not having the acid attacks or the rise in rape percentages others are having either. Shootings happen everyday at a high rate in places that have the toughest guns laws like Chicago and others. The media and the left prey on the weak minded and it works. It shows up here after every chosen shooting shown in the news that fits their agenda. Congrats lemmings, you epitomize the gullible lemmings they are looking for.

 

[USSLair]

Sorry to hear about your dad USS. Mine died in 2004. It eventually gets easier and the hurt will diminish. Hang in there. Also, fvck cancer.

Thank you. Lost my mother 6 years ago. Lost my father this year. Thankfully I have a very strong family to help out.

 

[Bill Derington]

You are always talking about your daddy.

You’re barking up the wrong tree if you think You’re going to rile me up.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

You didn’t, but as part of the more holistic conversation, warrior did.

I’m quite sure you’re not advocating for more people to take up Islam. Judaism? Maybe that’s what you meant.

God in general. Doesn't matter. Again it's my opinion that the further we get away from God the further we get away from the golden rule which is a principle found in many religions.

 

[USSLair]

Sorry to hear about your dad USS. Mine died in 2004. It eventually gets easier and the hurt will diminish. Hang in there. Also, fvck cancer.

Today was kinda hard. Use to always watch UK football with him.

Just wasn't the same