POLITICAL THREAD

[Joerules19]

The irony level here is off the charts lol.

You missed the irony bro.

LMFAO... maybe you shouldnt be the grammer police.

You missed the point. A few days ago UKbrassow or whatever his name is jumped all over a dude for misusing your/you’re like a dumbass. Only problem was that his critique was riddled w grammar mistakes. Just trying to get him to come out of the woodwork... he’s pretending like it didn’t happen

 

[Wildcats1st]

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How is it that the shooter is never to blame? How is it that their driving force leading to these shootings is always clearly political to these politicians? Drives me crazy.

We’ve got one clown taking a quote and twisting it to fit their narrative.

We’ve got another presidential hopeful talking as if guns are only used by white people.

And we’ve got thank God she didn’t get elected blaming the gun and nothing else.

I saw where some in the GOP were wanting to blame video games and movies. That’s stupid too.

We just have to admit that in some cases things can’t be prevented. Can things be better handled or contained? Sure. But full prevention isn’t happening in every case. We can’t know what every person is feeling, thinking and wanting to do at all times.

How the hell does she explain Syria which she as sec of state ruined?

 

[Bluedad2]

Fair enough let me rephrase, most mass killers whose motivations can be traced to a group or ideology are traced to white supremacy.

"I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence, but it does include other things as well."---FBI Director Wray

Prove that then. Hell, I just pulled up the 29 largest documented mass killings since 1949. The vast majority have no ideological reasoning- just criminally insane psychopaths.
But the title of mass killers doing so in the name of “X” belongs to the radical Islamic extremists who outnumber the white racist xenophobes 4-3 on the list.
In truth, both those groups are racist xenophobes.
Any other statements you want to bend to make your arguement that white supremacists make up the majority of mass killers?

And BTW- that statement by the FBI Director isnt alluding specifically to mass killings. Nor does it give a time frame. He just says “that we’ve investigated”- doesn’t say over what period of He could be saying in the past two months.
Hey- it’s terrible and again, these people should be executed immediately. But you painted a broad brush to make an argument and I’m calling it out.

 

[Wildcats1st]

Listing of the deadliest US mass shootings in modern US history (ie since 1949)
*based on research done on line- feel free to add. Right off the bat I know I’m missing the mass family shooting in Indiana that were drug related.

1949 Camden Murders
Howard Unruh- White / Homosexual
Criminally insane/ mental illness

1966 University of Texas Tower
Charles Whitman- White
Criminally insane/ mental illness

1975 Easter Sunday Massacre
James Ruppert- White
Criminally insane/ mental illness

1982 Wilkes Barre
George Banks- Black
Criminally insane/ mental illness

1983 Wah Mee Massacre
Willie Mak and Tony Ng- Chinese
Robbery/ Killing spree

1984 Palm Sunday Massacre
Chris Thomas- White
Extreme emotional disorder

1984 McDonalds San Ysidro CA
James Huberty- White
Mental illness/ conspiracy theorist/ end of the world nut

1986 Edmond Post Office Shooting
Patrick Sherrill- White
Extreme emotional disorder

1991 Luby’s massacre
George Hennard- White
Mental illness/ woman hater

1999 Columbine
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold- White
Hate mongers / racists/ criminally insane- bullied as youths

2002 DC Snipers
John Allen Mohammed,, and Lee Malvo- Black
Islamic terrorists/ crime spree

2007 Va Tech Shootings
Sueng Hui Cho- South Korean
Criminally insane/ depression

2009 Binghamton
Jivery Voong- Vietnamese
Criminally insane/ bullied

2009 Geneva Co
Michael McLendon- White
Mental illness/ depression/ bullied

2009 Ft Hood
Nidal Hasan- Arabic Muslim
Terrorist/ self proclaimed “soldier of Allah”

2012 Aurora Theatre
James Holmes- White
Mental illness

2012 Sandy Hook
Adam Lanza- White
Mental illness

2013 Washington Navy Yard
Aaron Alexis- Black
Mental illness

2015 San Bernardino
Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik- Arabic Muslim
Islamic Terrorists

2016 Orlando nightclub
Omar Mateen- American Muslim
Islamic terrorist- suspected to be secretly gay. Done in retaliation for attack’s on Iraq

2017 Las Vegas
Stephen Paddock- White
No known motive

2017 Sutherland Springs
Devin Kelley- White
Career criminal, self proclaimed aethiest

2018 Stoneman Douglass
Nikolas Cruz- White
Mental illness, racist, career criminal

2018 Thousand Oaks
David Long- White
Mental illness

2018 Pittsburgh Synagogue
Robert Bowers- White
Anti Semite

2018 Santa Fe
Dimitrious Pagourtzis - White
Mental illness- bullied

2018 Virginia Beach
Dewayne Craddock - Black
Mental illness

2019 El Paso
Patrick Causius- White
Anti immigrant- still TBD

2019 Dayton
Motive still TBD though it seems like he went out to murder his sister.

...so out of this entire list I can point to three examples of whackos who kill in the name of extremist right wing ideals which no mentally stable person would support.
I can likewise see four examples of killings done in the name of Allah which no mentally stable person would support.

Bottom line - they are all nuts for one reason or another and deserve to fry equally- and contrary to your claim, most are not tied to white supremacy movement.

I’ve done my research- have you?

What about the white dude that shot up the black church in SC? Idk if he’s on here. The other one the church shooting in Texas. Which one is that? Too many to keep up with some of those I don’t even know about.

This one though is most troubling

2017 Las Vegas
Stephen Paddock- White
No know motive

This guy kills 50 people and no one knows why? He shot them at a country music concert so imo that indicates motive. But seriously this guy no one knows.

 

[ymmot31]

Look at how quickly "nationalist" turned into "white nationalist" and now to "white supremacist". We've seen this exact scenario before. We are being demonized and it's OK to do whatever you want to a demon because they are inherently evil.

 

[ymmot31]

What about the white dude that shot up the black church in SC? Idk if he’s on here. The other one the church shooting in Texas. Which one is that? Too many to keep up with some of those I don’t even know about.

This one though is most troubling

2017 Las Vegas
Stephen Paddock- White
No know motive

This guy kills 50 people and no one knows why? He shot them at a country music concert so imo that indicates motive. But seriously this guy no one knows.

He shot them for the same reason these other dickheads did. To further the cause of disarming this country. They are martyrs. Democrats are insurgents at this point. They have already attempted a coup, what more proof do we need? They suck.

 

[SomeDudeCRO]

You missed Dylan roof yeah.

precursor to all this was BLM. Everyone, including cops, believe black lives matter.

White supremacists however don’t.

OMG somedude are you saying blacks are to be blamed for white supremacy demostic terrorism? No, I’m saying black supremacists incite white supremacists and they are all incited by distorted media.

 

[Wildcats1st]

He shot them for the same reason these other dickheads did. To further the cause of disarming this country. They are martyrs. Democrats are insurgents at this point. They have already attempted a coup, what more proof do we need? They suck.

Homie they all suck. No one capable of uniting the country. No one.

 

[Ed323232]

Are they trying to blanket the Dayton shooting with the El Paso shooting? Pushing that one down and not talking about it because the shooter doesn't fit the narrative?

What about Toledo. Fat Nixon said they had a shooting too.

 

[qwesley]

Let's take out random drive by shootings and see how many mass shootings there have been this year. Let's do that. Of course that would require exposing the truth about inner city, democrat ran, America.

Let's realize that out of the 40,000 gun related deaths last year, that about 25,000 of those were suicide. Why are they lumped in with the others? To accentuate the evilness of the gun or to gloss over the mental health problem we have in this country? Both?

Whatever is politically expedient. Will even just parse out one part of two shootings to get where they want. And the drop in passionate hos demanding action lap it up.

Hell you could raise the driving age to 18, which SCIENCE says would be warranted, and save exponentially more lives as all out banning whatever weapons they claim to only want to ban.

 

[anon_l8pbkn96tg3j6]

What about the white dude that shot up the black church in SC? Idk if he’s on here. The other one the church shooting in Texas. Which one is that? Too many to keep up with some of those I don’t even know about.

This one though is most troubling

2017 Las Vegas
Stephen Paddock- White
No know motive

This guy kills 50 people and no one knows why? He shot them at a country music concert so imo that indicates motive. But seriously this guy no one knows.

certain things make my tin foil hat tingle and this is one of them. dude had a roomful of guns in a casino, allegedly made a fortune winning an unwinnable game in video poker, his girlfriend ran away with some money to vietnam or something, and we don't know anything? Ellen got a dramatic interview with the casino cop who allegedly stopped the massacre, so no more questions.

 

[Platinumdrgn]

Fat don wants to use the FBI and Facebook to predict crimes. He wants to take away your guns if he thinks your a threat. He wants you put to death quickly. Let's see if the GoP passes another sweeping security bill (Patriot act) to make us all "safe".

 

[Joerules19]

He shot them for the same reason these other dickheads did. To further the cause of disarming this country. They are martyrs. Democrats are insurgents at this point. They have already attempted a coup, what more proof do we need? They suck.

So now we have some one on here saying that these dudes are committing mass shootings so the government can get rid of the 2nd Amendment? Just when I thought I have heard it all. This truly is an alt-right board a lot of the time

 

[AustinTXCat]

I am fine. Just proud of you for you’re improved grammar

 

[Joerules19]

Fat don wants to use the FBI and Facebook to predict crimes. He wants to take away your guns if he thinks your a threat. He wants you put to death quickly. Let's see if the GoP passes another sweeping security bill (Patriot act) to make us all "safe".

Bonespurs and Congress won't do shit. After Parkland, Trump hinted at extended background checks, age limits and lack of access to those deemed mentally ill. Didn't mention it again... The House has passed bills requiring background checks for all gun purchases (gun shows/Internet) and waiting periods. The Senate hasn't done anything with those bills and they won't. Sad...

 

[ymmot31]

So now we have some one on here saying that these dudes are committing mass shootings so the government can get rid of the 2nd Amendment? Just when I thought I have heard it all. This truly is an alt-right board a lot of the time

They are not deranged to the point that they don't know what the fallout will be. They know that they will advance no narrative other than the "guns are bad" mantra of the left. How about you give YOUR constitutional rights away and allow me to keep mine. There are several countries that have the government you seek to create here.

 

[CatsFanGG24]

Bonespurs and Congress won't do shit. After Parkland, Trump hinted at extended background checks, age limits and lack of access to those deemed mentally ill. Didn't mention it again... The House has passed bills requiring background checks for all gun purchases (gun shows/Internet) and waiting periods. The Senate hasn't done anything with those bills and they won't. Sad...

Lol weren’t you on here a week or so ago complaining about people calling the dems juvenile nicknames? Now you’re all in on bonespurs, fat don, fat nixon, cheeto

Never fails...just be you from the start.

 

[Ed323232]

Lol weren’t you on here a week or so ago complaining about people calling the dems juvenile nicknames? Now you’re all in on bonespurs, fat don, fat nixon, cheeto

Never fails...just be you from the start.

Cheeto. Lol.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Cheeto. Lol.

Killery.

Lolol.

 

[Ed323232]

Ed. I'm beginning to see your way. Thanks for everything you bring to this board. We are lucky to have you.



Your welcome. Thanks for the kind words.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

I'm pro-gun as anyone.

With that said, once you pen a manifesto, you've kind of given up your right to a weapon and freedom. If that manifesto talks about Mass killing.

 

[warrior-cat]

"I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence, but it does include other things as well."---FBI Director Wray

The anti-defamation league reported in January 2019 that right-wing extremists were "linked to at least 50 extremist-related murders in the United States in 2018", the most since 1995. It also found "73.3% of all extremist-related fatalities can be linked to domestic right-wing extremists, while 23.4% can be attributed to Islamic extremists".

False, gang murders and black on black killings are also extremist. Keep on posting pieces that follow your mindset though, it ensures that most see you for what you are.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Yes, I know. I really suck at this.

Fixed.

 

[Ed323232]

Fixed.

Lol you started it meat.

 

[Bill Derington]

Have the El Paso police or FBI given anymore info?
Are we even certain the manifesto was written by the shooter?
There’s a whole lot of calling half the country white supremacists without much hard knowledge from the police.

 

[JStaff2187]

Have the El Paso police or FBI given anymore info?
Are we even certain the manifesto was written by the shooter?
There’s a whole lot of calling half the country white supremacists without much hard knowledge from the police.

Within hours after the shooting, the radio news was calling it an act of white supremacy. Said he stated he hated Mexicans. They mentioned a manifesto that had been taken down as the source. Of course, as you said, I haven’t seen this verified to my knowledge, but it sure is all over the place.

On top of that, how does hating Mexicans make one a white supremacist? Isn’t it possible to be racist towards Mexicans, but not have an issue with black people? If there was more there, I withdraw that comment, but we sure are quick to label non racist acts racist and racist acts, acts of supremacy. Either way it’s disgusting but there is a difference.

 

[warrior-cat]

Fair enough let me rephrase, most mass killers whose motivations can be traced to a group or ideology are traced to white supremacy.

"I will say that a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence, but it does include other things as well."---FBI Director Wray

Grossly False and made up.

 

[Mashburned]

Are we even certain the manifesto was written by the shooter?

No, not as of yesterday. FBI is investigating. And will be for a while.

Btw, that Notre Dame investigation wrap up yet?

 

[JStaff2187]

No, not as of yesterday. FBI is investigating. And will be for a while.

Btw, that Notre Dame investigation wrap up yet?

FBI: Forget Being Investigated

 

[warrior-cat]

Let's take out random drive by shootings and see how many mass shootings there have been this year. Let's do that. Of course that would require exposing the truth about inner city, democrat ran, America.

Let's realize that out of the 40,000 gun related deaths last year, that about 25,000 of those were suicide. Why are they lumped in with the others? To accentuate the evilness of the gun or to gloss over the mental health problem we have in this country? Both?

This is the truth. Take all of the shootings this year, factor in race and you will find percentages per populace will go down in white related murders as opposed to black and Hispanic and it is not even close.

How about we just blame the shooters.

 

[warrior-cat]

What about Toledo. Fat Nixon said they had a shooting too.

False.

 

[warrior-cat]

Fat don wants to use the FBI and Facebook to predict crimes. He wants to take away your guns if he thinks your a threat. He wants you put to death quickly. Let's see if the GoP passes another sweeping security bill (Patriot act) to make us all "safe".

Yeah, nothing like all of the criminals liberal politicians and judges let go scott free even though they are guilty as hell. Enforce the law and 98% of Democrat politician and about 50% of Republican politicians would be in trouble.

 

[warrior-cat]

So now we have some one on here saying that these dudes are committing mass shootings so the government can get rid of the 2nd Amendment? Just when I thought I have heard it all. This truly is an alt-right board a lot of the time

Trying to keep the balance on here because you guys have said far more ridiculous things.

 

[warrior-cat]

Lol weren’t you on here a week or so ago complaining about people calling the dems juvenile nicknames? Now you’re all in on bonespurs, fat don, fat nixon, cheeto

Never fails...just be you from the start.

Hypocrisy defined is liberal logic.

 

[warrior-cat]

Lol you started it meat.

Homo, talking about everyone's meat. That's harassment.

 

[screwduke1]

Good.

 

[screwduke1]

Homie they all suck. No one capable of uniting the country. No one.

I don't see it uniting in my lifetime and I'm only in my 20s. Hell Trump TRIES uniting the country after these events and half the country still attacks him. A lot of scary times ahead for America IMO.

 

[UK82]

I don't see it uniting in my lifetime and I'm only in my 20s. Hell Trump TRIES uniting the country after these events and half the country still attacks him. A lot of scary times ahead for America IMO.

I'm almost 60 and it's the worst. The 1960's were bad but not like this.

 

[ymmot31]

This is the truth. Take all of the shootings this year, factor in race and you will find percentages per populace will go down in white related murders as opposed to black and Hispanic and it is not even close.

How about we just blame the shooters.

Democrats know that. It's the reason they pander all the stuff about us being racists. If we point out the truth they shout us down with their racial hysteria.

 

[screwduke1]