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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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In theory, the progressive tax system is great. But in actuality, it’s common that those more wealthy pay little to no taxes.

In my mind, I’d say to tax wealthier people and corporations more. Funnel more to public school systems, public works, etc. and create additional higher earners. We have a tax an economic mobility problem in America
The reason wealthier people often pay little or no tax is because they are able to buy the people who write the rules and then convince those on the other end of the economic spectrum that it’s all for their own good.
Take the inheritance tax debate. .01% of estates pay any inheritance tax yet redneck Billy Bob who will be lucky to inherit a pack of cigarettes will bitch and moan about how we should abolish the inheritance tax. All the billionaire families thank you for your support.
 
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I mean, only paying 5% on a UPS manager salary would be pretty dope. Please drop the details of how that works, Platinumdumb!
even if he is miraculously only paying that, what tax loopholes is he utilizing to reach that rate? I thought loopholes were bad things and that people are supposed to do whatever is possible to make sure they pay as much in taxes as possible because that's the moral thing to do amiright?
 
Numerous variables in the question. I believe, for America to truly be great, it’s our personal responsibility to help out everyone. Most of us on this board started at the least on second base, so what would be a problem for us to help out other people.

Government has helped out numerous people and hurt others. Can we not agree that redlining in the 50’s and 60’s , government discrimination, and economic gentrification assisted our parents and grandparents?

I’d say you put a time limit on assistance, only due to the volume and amount of others in need. We all are reliant on government. Some just need more help than others.
You put an ability limit on assistance as well then we have a starting point. By that I mean, if you are capable to work and there are jobs in your area regardless of what they are, you need to be working. If the money is not good enough to sustain a fair to good living then assistance will be awarded. Problem we have now is that many live good enough for their liking without working. Take away their "entitlements" and make them work for their living conditions or at least make them clean up the feces in California.
 
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Absolutely, tax reform cannot be revenue neutral and must equal additional revenue. Kentucky’s tax code currently exempts more revenue to special interests than it brings in. I know math is hard but a $40-$60 billion dollar debt can’t be repaid without additional dollars.
Simple fix is, stop spending and funding that which needs not to be funded. There, fixed it for you.
 
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Increasing income tax rates in Kentucky that are already higher than neighboring states will be a great way to grow revenue.
The tax and spend party has shown in most of its controlled areas how well that works ([pfftt]) and still they continue to try it. Does this not define insanity?
 
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Is she is or is she ain't?

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The reason wealthier people often pay little or no tax is because they are able to buy the people who write the rules and then convince those on the other end of the economic spectrum that it’s all for their own good.
Take the inheritance tax debate. .01% of estates pay any inheritance tax yet redneck Billy Bob who will be lucky to inherit a pack of cigarettes will bitch and moan about how we should abolish the inheritance tax. All the billionaire families thank you for your support.

Big Don Trump pays more tax in one month than you will pay in 20 lifetimes. That's why he's your president.
 
The reason wealthier people often pay little or no tax is because they are able to buy the people who write the rules and then convince those on the other end of the economic spectrum that it’s all for their own good.
Take the inheritance tax debate. .01% of estates pay any inheritance tax yet redneck Billy Bob who will be lucky to inherit a pack of cigarettes will bitch and moan about how we should abolish the inheritance tax. All the billionaire families thank you for your support.
They dont try to convince anyone of anything. Who's money is it? Tell me, without feelings, how it's not stealing. It either is or it isnt. Why is the government entitled to everyone's money trying to get their greedy hands on anything they can...especially when theyve shown time after time they are irresponsible with it, and often using to feed their own interests. So, yeah theres the lecturing ppl on why it's good for Billy Bob that they take everyones money. You do realize that money doesnt go to whatever belleding heart cause they trot out...it goes to the govt.
 
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You may want to read up on that. Specifically those people who are moving, what they’re bringing, and what’s going up. Charlotte would be a great, comparable city to Nashville for additional reference

You are making a self defeating argument.

Maybe we should continue this discussion in your native Montenegrin.
 

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On the lady who had it in her will to euthanize her dog and bury it with her.

What kind of cock sucker actually follows through with that?

Granny is dead, she doesn't know shit.

Shame on the "executor of the will", shame on the family for not having one single person step up and say "no, this isn't going down", and shame on that shelter for not lying to the mother fu**er when he/she came for the dog. A real simple "sorry, the dog ran away" would have sufficed.

Folks, this off the reservation type of shit that is pervasive throughout our society has got to end, or it will be the end of said society as we know it.

Putting a healthy dog down...Jesus Christ, I've heard it all now. I thought putting healthy babies down was for sure as far as folks would go...nope, we're now going to allow lawyers to put dogs down because it's in somebodies last will and testament.
 
They dont try to convince anyone of anything. Who's money is it? Tell me, without feelings, how it's not stealing. It either is it it isnt. Why is the government entitled to everyone's money trying to get their greedy hands on anything they can...especially when theyve shown time after time they are irresponsible with it, and often using to feed their own interests. So, yeah theres the lecturing ppl on why it's good for Billy Bob that they take everyones money. You do realize that money doesnt go to whatever belleding heart cause they trot out...it goes to the govt.
First off dickwadd, Billy Bob is likely paying $0 in taxes just like the rest of the 50% of people who pay $0 or have a negative rate and just don’t know it.
We live in a democracy and with that we live with those who we elect and the decisions they make. We all have a shared responsibility and with that comes the obligation to pay for the services and benefits we’ve voted for by proxy.
We don’t get to pick and choose what obligations we pay and those we don’t. We voted for this shit so now how are you going to raise the money to pay for it all?
Don’t tell me you didn’t vote for x or y... I didn’t vote for the but I must still suffer through him being our POTUS. That’s how it works.
So again, from where do you expect the money to come to pay the nation’s bills? They are going to take it from someone.

I think you fail to see that even self-made fortunes are often, almost always built on the back of the infrastructure built “by the people”. Most Americans educations were paid for in whole or part by taxpayers. Those people go on to work and earn income. The travel on roads paid for by taxpayers. They live with security paid for by taxpayers. They often work in jobs that are funded in part or in whole by taxpayer $$.

If taxpayer $$ are stolen money then who has those stolen dollars?
 
First off dickwadd, Billy Bob is likely paying $0 in taxes just like the rest of the 50% of people who pay $0 or have a negative rate and just don’t know it.
We live in a democracy and with that we live with those who we elect and the decisions they make. We all have a shared responsibility and with that comes the obligation to pay for the services and benefits we’ve voted for by proxy.
We don’t get to pick and choose what obligations we pay and those we don’t. We voted for this shit so now how are you going to raise the money to pay for it all?
Don’t tell me you didn’t vote for x or y... I didn’t vote for the but I must still suffer through him being our POTUS. That’s how it works.
So again, from where do you expect the money to come to pay the nation’s bills? They are going to take it from someone.

I think you fail to see that even self-made fortunes are often, almost always built on the back of the infrastructure built “by the people”. Most Americans educations were paid for in whole or part by taxpayers. Those people go on to work and earn income. The travel on roads paid for by taxpayers. They live with security paid for by taxpayers. They often work in jobs that are funded in part or in whole by taxpayer $$.

If taxpayer $$ are stolen money then who has those stolen dollars?


YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT!!!
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...alifornia-a8925336.html?utm_source=reddit.com
More than $1.5bn (£1.24bn) of border wall funding has produced a mere 1.7 miles of fencing along the nation’s southern border, a federal judge was told.

That is some efficient spending and building there!


That's some efficient analysis being able to judge spending without even knowing how much was spent.



Edit: And don't get me wrong, I'm pretty much anti-all government spending, we just don't know how much was spent.
 
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I am all for abortions and giving women unrestricted access to get abortions. There is a need for abortions for the benefit of society.
This is a good point. And don't it just crack you up when conservatives complain of minority overuse of abortion? That, for example, blacks use abortion at such high frequency their population % doesn't increase? Shouldn't they be embracing that statistic on behalf of the "virtue" of abortion? How would that be wrong?
 
That's some efficient analysis being able to judge spending without even knowing how much was spent.



Edit: And don't get me wrong, I'm pretty much anti-all government spending, we just don't know how much was spent.
it doesnt matter how much was spent. 1.7 miles, thats some progress! its not like they are even building a wall. just sticking steel slats in dirt.
 
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reagan-bush-immigration-debate_n_5ce4c8d4e4b0d513447c51e7

Listen to this crazy liberal recommend open borders! oops, it's Reagan and Bush.

“Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they’re working and earning here they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back, and they can cross. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems.”
 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reagan-bush-immigration-debate_n_5ce4c8d4e4b0d513447c51e7

Listen to this crazy liberal recommend open borders! oops, it's Reagan and Bush.

“Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they’re working and earning here they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back, and they can cross. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems.”


Pretty sure everyone agrees immigrants can come here legally you goddam loony toon. It's you idiots on the left who can't tell the difference between law abiding immigrants and illegal aliens.
 
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reagan-bush-immigration-debate_n_5ce4c8d4e4b0d513447c51e7

Listen to this crazy liberal recommend open borders! oops, it's Reagan and Bush.

“Rather than talking about putting up a fence, why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they’re working and earning here they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back, and they can cross. And open the border both ways by understanding their problems.”
Yeah, that was about 20 million illegals ago, if you go by the recent Yale study. Ah the good old days before Sanctuary Politics and Democrats intent on creating a new constituency of dependent voters made any rational debate about how Americans wanted to regulate our borders and handle our immigration policies irrelevant.
 
What happens when Trump wins the popular vote in 2020 and he gets an additional 75 electoral votes from states that didn't vote for him?

Hilarity. That's what happens
Trump isn’t winning the popular vote and if these States have there way the Electoral College either.
 
Maybe Trump is playing 4D chess and is going to round up all the illegal aliens before 2020 and deport them so the Ds don't win the popular vote after effectively scrapping the electoral college.



Although, you know damn well the states would reneg on these laws in a heartbeat if an R won the popular vote.
 
But, wouldn’t giving to the poor be socialism? I agree, we should do a lot more for the poor, we should tax the rich at a higher rate, it’s proven effective. Take from us all to help those less well off regarding socioeconomic status. Would you all agree?
Or work to provide them opportunity. Sure some cant help it..but most ppl want to work and provide for themselves. The govt puts a ceiling on you. I dont think there is a strong correlation of people moving off govt assistance. Instead work to improve job opportunities, improve access to care, etc. The free market can provide more for a person than the govt ever can..the govt job should be ways to direct the market there not be the market.

Also, what the dems are pushing isnt even socialism at this point...its Santa Claus-ism
 
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