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  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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He took the initiative in creating the internet. It is what it means. How hard is it for you to understand? He is basically saying he was the lead in creating it. Sounds like he created/invented it to me.
And this is why we need civics taught in our schools. He is a politician not an engineer.
So you hate liars and people who try to secretly fund proxy wars in foreign nations which lead directly to the death of innocent civilians?

Good thing that description doesn't literally describe Hillary Clinton's political career, or else your stance would seem a bit odd.
You keep assuming a whole lot about me. I have one very large concern about Hillary, that doesn't let anybody else off the hook though. Why do you assume I would not vote for Sanders?
 
So you hate liars and people who try to secretly fund proxy wars in foreign nations which lead directly to the death of innocent civilians?

Good thing that description doesn't literally describe Hillary Clinton's political career, or else your stance would seem a bit odd.
You are wrong about the word "try", and it's more than that, some wars need to be fought.
 
Did you watch the video? Al effing Gore flat out says he invented the internet. Those words came from his mouth. There is no denying it. It happened. It's not made up. Not a part of someone's fictional mind. Al Gore said he invented the internet. The video is eye goddamn witness.

Jesus christ. This is the world we live in. When people deny video evidence. un f***** believable.
You are wrong, but it is a brave new world, you should check it out.
 
Did you watch the video? Al effing Gore flat out says he invented the internet. Those words came from his mouth. There is no denying it. It happened. It's not made up. Not a part of someone's fictional mind. Al Gore said he invented the internet. The video is eye goddamn witness.

Jesus christ. This is the world we live in. When people deny video evidence. un f***** believable.

Hahaha. Tell us what you really think Willy. Don't hold back. [laughing]
 
You keep assuming a whole lot about me. I have one very large concern about Hillary, that doesn't let anybody else off the hook though. Why do you assume I would not vote for Sanders?

You are wrong about the word "try", and it's more than that, some wars need to be fought.

- Why do I assume you wouldn't vote for Sanders? I don't know, maybe you would. He's a big fan of the Castros and Sandinistas, so your hypocrisy on not backing politicians who support violence against civilians would remain intact. I guess your knee-jerk defense of Hillary against legitimate attacks makes me think you're HillDawg all the way

- Some wars like Iraq? The one she voted for. Or Libya? Or Syria? The one where the US was funding rebels who slaughtered innocent civilians? The exact same situation you said turned you against an entire party. Again, you seem to be very selective about which parallel situations are bad and which are good.
 
Did you watch the video? Al effing Gore flat out says he invented the internet. Those words came from his mouth. There is no denying it. It happened. It's not made up. Not a part of someone's fictional mind. Al Gore said he invented the internet. The video is eye goddamn witness.

Jesus christ. This is the world we live in. When people deny video evidence. un f***** believable.

It's unreal.
 
You are wrong, but it is a brave new world, you should check it out.

Really? I watched the damn video. He said it. I am not going to argue about. The mf'er said it. Al Gore invented the internet. Matter of fact, Vint Cerf the real creator of internet called Al Gore out about being a lying piece of shit. F*** Al Gore, lying dog turd who is the single cause of climate chnage. Wanna save the planet, then go tell Al Gore to turn off his GD electricity;

Then I guess Neil Armstrong didn't walk on the moon. US didn't drop nukes on Japan. Oh, and Rome doesn'[t exist. False. Made up place.
 
- Why do I assume you wouldn't vote for Sanders? I don't know, maybe you would. He's a big fan of the Castros and Sandinistas, so your hypocrisy on not backing politicians who support violence against civilians would remain intact. I guess your knee-jerk defense of Hillary against legitimate attacks makes me think you're HillDawg all the way

- Some wars like Iraq? The one she voted for. Or Libya? Or Syria? The one where the US was funding rebels who slaughtered innocent civilians? The exact same situation you said turned you against an entire party. Again, you seem to be very selective about which parallel situations are bad and which are good.

I supported the 1st Iraq war. I was against the 2nd but to be fair the 98 Senators that voted to give Bush the option of war had been mislead and lied to themselves. To use that example is just political hackery. If you think not then you should go back and read what she had to say at the time. It appears you support the lies that the Bush administration told the world about WMD's but you want to hold them out of the conversation of Clinton's decision. I again remind you it was the same as 98 out of a 100. Your argument is lame and impotent.

You say not to assume you are a GOP shill but you use all the same BS tactics they use and then try to call other hypocrites. I'm not impressed. Your arguments so far are just like the conservatives game---very broad but conveniently shallow. You have no idea what my views are other than enough to attach your bumper sticker analysis to.

The depth of your thinking makes it of little importance to me. Your intellect is exposed when I said I had one large concern about Clinton and that did not interest you, you try to define a person's judgement as a singletary thought, you show no curiosity as to what others think or why---you just like to blow hard.

BTW you don't have a clue why I brought up Rufina Amaya, you thought you did but you don't. People who try to look smart seldom enough time to become informed. Blow on.
 
[laughing] All of that and you literally said nothing. Congrats.

GOP shill [roll]Yeah, that's me. Constantly walking that party line.

I mean, I hold up the Iraq War as a BAD THING and you somehow interpret that to mean I'm supporting Bush? The reason I didn't bring up George Bush lying about Iraq is because he isn't running for President, momo. If he were somehow allowed to run, yes I'd make a big GD deal about Iraq and not vote for him.

You seem to be the one with the inability to understand anything beyond TEAMSPORTPOLITICS.
 
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I actually know guys like this :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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Yeah all the libertarians I know would spend half a day on the internet defending the real meaning of what Al Gore meant.
 
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Really? I watched the damn video. He said it. I am not going to argue about. The mf'er said it. Al Gore invented the internet. Matter of fact, Vint Cerf the real creator of internet called Al Gore out about being a lying piece of shit. F*** Al Gore, lying dog turd who is the single cause of climate chnage. Wanna save the planet, then go tell Al Gore to turn off his GD electricity;

Then I guess Neil Armstrong didn't walk on the moon. US didn't drop nukes on Japan. Oh, and Rome doesn'[t exist. False. Made up place.
No you are wrong and those that agree with you are wrong. The video proves you are wrong as well as the transcript I provided proves you are wrong. Sorry fellow. End of story.
 
No you are wrong and those that agree with you are wrong. The video proves you are wrong as well as the transcript I provided proves you are wrong. Sorry fellow. End of story.



My last word on it.

Unless Wolf Blitzer used Jedi mind shit and forced Al Gore to say, and I quote. "I took the initiative in creating the Internet", then that lying bastard did not create the internet.

Misquote my ass. That's called covering your ass after the fact. Talk about putting on a spin job. Guy is gutless too, because instead admitting the mistake, he chose to low road and pulled that misquote crap. Sorry Levi, some other sucker might buy it, but I sure as shit not.
 
"initiative" is as egregious as "invented".

My second last word on this.

Al Gore. Definition of initiative per google. "the power or opportunity to act or take charge before others do"

Definition of create is "to make". Definition of internet. "The global communication network that allows almost all computers worldwide to connect and exchange information and photos of ass baby titty bouncing. Some of the early impetus for such a network came from the U.S. government network Arpanet, starting in the 1960s.


So if you put all three words together, you kinda see that, yeahhhhh, Al Gore is a liar.

Case closed.
 
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Really? I watched the damn video. He said it. I am not going to argue about. The mf'er said it. Al Gore invented the internet. Matter of fact, Vint Cerf the real creator of internet called Al Gore out about being a lying piece of shit. F*** Al Gore, lying dog turd who is the single cause of climate chnage. Wanna save the planet, then go tell Al Gore to turn off his GD electricity;

Then I guess Neil Armstrong didn't walk on the moon. US didn't drop nukes on Japan. Oh, and Rome doesn'[t exist. False. Made up place.
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I actually know guys like this :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Yeah and, they are a very, very small portion of the population yet you people who support the left use this type of behaviour to lie about conservatism to skirt the real issues in which you fail miserably. See Hillary as an example.
 
Nothing quite as fun as re-hashing an overplayed "GOTCHA" game from a POTUS election from a previous century, but here goes:

If JFK said "I took the initiative in getting us to the moon", would that have been inaccurate?
If Eisenhower said "I took the initiative in constructing the interstate highway system", would that have been inaccurate?
If Teddy said "I took the initiative in finishing the Panama Canal", would that have been inaccurate?

While reasonable minds can differ, it's surprising to me that people can watch that video and think Gore was implying that he was sitting at his desk in DC and personally writing computer code, etc.
 
Nothing quite as fun as re-hashing an overplayed "GOTCHA" game from a POTUS election from a previous century, but here goes:

If JFK said "I took the initiative in getting us to the moon", would that have been inaccurate?
If Eisenhower said "I took the initiative in constructing the interstate highway system", would that have been inaccurate?
If Teddy said "I took the initiative in finishing the Panama Canal", would that have been inaccurate?

While reasonable minds can differ, it's surprising to me that people can watch that video and think Gore was implying that he was sitting at his desk in DC and personally writing computer code, etc.


No, he wasn't writing computer code. He was lying about writing computer code. Big difference, Jamo.
 
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No, he wasn't writing computer code. He was lying about writing computer code. Big difference, Jamo.
So he has to list the various bills he introduced, the hearings he chaired, and the mass media efforts he led? He can't just say he used his time in the House/Senate to help make the Internet a reality?
 
But he didn't say help. He said created.

Let's see, do I side with the Willy and the others or take in consideration the long letter of support for Gore penned by guys who invented TCP/IP protocol? Yuck Yuck:

Al Gore and the Internet

By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
 
Let's see, do I side with the Willy and the others or take in consideration the long letter of support for Gore penned by guys who invented TCP/IP protocol? Yuck Yuck:

Al Gore and the Internet

By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
Let's see, do I read all of this hot air or use common sense enough to know that long winded post like this needs to try and convince people with a constant barage of personal opinion from like minded people.
 
Jesus christ people. Al Gore was pumping his record and wanted people to think he was a huge part on creating the internet.

Debate semantics all you want. He said it the way he said it because he wanted you to think he created the internet. That's what politicians do. And you idiots sit here defending him.

You guys have spent 1 million words on the past two pages defending the honor of a guy who's made millions (hundreds of millions?) making fake documentaries to fear monger.
 
Let's see, do I side with the Willy and the others or take in consideration the long letter of support for Gore penned by guys who invented TCP/IP protocol? Yuck Yuck:

Al Gore and the Internet

By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.


Yeah just like Watson and Crick stole Rosalind Franklin's research. She was still humble enough to Watson and Crick too. But let's face it. Watson and Crick=Al lying Gore.
 
Let's see, do I read all of this hot air or use common sense enough to know that long winded post like this needs to try and convince people with a constant barage of personal opinion from like minded people.
i think you meant "long copy/pastes"
 
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Let's see, do I side with the Willy and the others or take in consideration the long letter of support for Gore penned by guys who invented TCP/IP protocol? Yuck Yuck:

Al Gore and the Internet

By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf

Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.

No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.

Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.

As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.

As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.

There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.

The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.


This is way too much for the knuckleheads posting here to digest. It is far too easy for them to live in their own invented reality with not a wit of understanding or comprehension among them. I honestly doubt some can maintain focus long enough to read this or appreciate the authors contributions. Heck they cannot differentiate the terms invent and initiate. Like pigs in slop they actually enjoy their ignorance and do not comprehend their insults being hurled by such fools have miniscule impact.
 
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