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I think that the distribution of revenues from the operation of a business matter. Executive compensation is part of the labor cost equation. We pay executives to work, do we not? Is labor not a synonym for work? Perhaps you want to look at the two separately.
Your inability to see and understand this says more about you than it does me.
Grimes is yet another typical KY Democrat (well, politician in general) who has shady dealings in her current position and could not even answer a simple question on whether she supported Obama or not. She never had a shot against one of the most corrupt and ineffective Senate leaders ever in Mitch so it only makes sense that she is the political mouthpiece for Hilary in KY.
That's crazy. I would like a recount.
Would also like to know how/why we can't get official results/counts till the end of the month. What does that even mean?
"CEO pay at the nation's largest companies is 303 times that of the average pay of their employees, according to a new analysis from the Economic Policy Institute...
The average total compensation of CEOs at the 350 largest firms, including stock options and other bonuses, came to $16.3 million in 2014, according to EPI. That compares to just over $50,000 in pay for their workers."
"The study shows CEO pay up 997% since 1978, at the same time that their employee pay has risen only 10.9%."
303 was the average I said 400-500...do you doubt there were any that would meet that threshold?
If one man is receiving 303 times the employee pay? Do you doubt that the executive board combined doesn't add up to over 1000 times that amount?
Dems have to hide who they are. Tells you all you need to know.
Stumbled on this Bill Clinton quote in the Washington Post this morning. Love it. And yet, we know it's not true that traditional media favors Democrats, because Faux and income inequality:
"...[Bill Clinton] said Democrats of his generation tend to be naive about new media realities. There is an expectation among Democrats that establishment old media organizations are de facto allies -- and will rebut political accusations and serve as referees on new-media excesses.
"We're all that way, and I think a part of it is we grew up in the '60s and the press led us against the war and the press led us on civil rights and the press led us on Watergate," Clinton said. "Those of us of a certain age grew up with this almost unrealistic set of expectations."
Old media are de facto allies. heh.....
"...[Bill Clinton] said Democrats of his generation tend to be naive about new media realities. There is an expectation among Democrats that establishment old media organizations are de facto allies -- and will rebut political accusations and serve as referees on new-media excesses.
"We're all that way, and I think a part of it is we grew up in the '60s and the press led us against the war and the press led us on civil rights and the press led us on Watergate," Clinton said. "Those of us of a certain age grew up with this almost unrealistic set of expectations."
Old media are de facto allies. heh.....
Because there is a window in which someone can challenge someone's vote, call for recounts, etc. Was someone allowed to vote in the wrong precinct, or was ineligible to vote. The rolls of who voted has to be verified and the numbers audited.
Until those windows are closed and audits done the vote can't be considered official.
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Another front page story in the WSJ this morning - PAY GAP WIDEST FOR WOMEN IN ELITE JOBS
Typical worry and hand-wringing on this great wrong/mystery. The Journal commissioned an exhaustive study to figure out where good people went wrong, and here's the money quote:
"The main factor, she and her co-authors concluded: Women became mothers, interrupted their careers and eschewed lengthy hours that generated higher paychecks."
This is always true, and yet it's always regarded as a mystery. Women quit working to raise children or work part time or just don't want to work 80 hours a week. If you consider those kinds of societal factors, the pay disparity disappears. And yet, next week someone will lament this whole thing again.
Best laugh line in the piece?
"A professor probing for pay-gap causes says "I continue to be befuddled."
Typical worry and hand-wringing on this great wrong/mystery. The Journal commissioned an exhaustive study to figure out where good people went wrong, and here's the money quote:
"The main factor, she and her co-authors concluded: Women became mothers, interrupted their careers and eschewed lengthy hours that generated higher paychecks."
This is always true, and yet it's always regarded as a mystery. Women quit working to raise children or work part time or just don't want to work 80 hours a week. If you consider those kinds of societal factors, the pay disparity disappears. And yet, next week someone will lament this whole thing again.
Best laugh line in the piece?
"A professor probing for pay-gap causes says "I continue to be befuddled."
First off no, trading from poor/rich states doesn't hurt poor states. Every state has its resources and also has some built in cheap labor(not to be confused with slave/child labor) as a resource. That is why states like KY, AL, MS etc were hit pretty hard as manufacturing left. Those states offered low labor costs because cost of living was extremely low in said states.
Regardless interstate trade was a better option until our boundaries were taken down. Once slave/child labor became a competitor to wages we as a country were screwed.
You ask companies like Toyota if the benefits of selling in America are worth paying higher wages in the states as opposed to paying tariffs......the answer is clear!
You know the biggest catch 22 on this is the unions were a huge reasons the clintons became so damn popular, yet they were literally the face of union busting! F'n amazing that Bill Clinton is if you ask me.
Regardless interstate trade was a better option until our boundaries were taken down. Once slave/child labor became a competitor to wages we as a country were screwed.
You ask companies like Toyota if the benefits of selling in America are worth paying higher wages in the states as opposed to paying tariffs......the answer is clear!
You know the biggest catch 22 on this is the unions were a huge reasons the clintons became so damn popular, yet they were literally the face of union busting! F'n amazing that Bill Clinton is if you ask me.
Yeah, they are so much different than the honest, transparent Republicans...![[sick]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/sick/sick0006.r191677.gif "Sick [sick]")
Did you know what you were getting if Bevin was elected?
I did, and do not understand the problem really.
Silly party bias aside, is there even such a thing as a trustworthy politician?
So the numbers you used were pulled straight from your ass. Got it.
And the questions you end with don't really matter. No, I don't doubt you can find an executive level employee at a random company who made 400 times the average employee at that company.
But I'm not the one whining about multiples. I understand economics, and the fact that an executive at one of the largest 350 firms in the world or US or whatever you're looking at likely provides more value than Johnny Bumfvck on the assembly line. I understand the compensation for one of the executives at one of those firms is likely largely stock based as well as driven by other incentive bonuses. I understand the people who own the company approve the compensation given to the executives.
Yeah, in some situations, a guy with his MBA from Harvard with years of experience leading a company probably provides 400 times the value someone doing the job a robot could do provides.
Your solution is to just shift executive pay back to the workers. If you said, "cut executive pay and lower or maintain current labor costs for laborers", that might help some. But you can't just shift the money. It's the same exact cost, just distributed differently. You seriously have the cognitive ability of an orange.
Also, Sweden.
Even if you're doing research it only proves that you had no idea what you were talking about at the time you posted originally. You're still going to be wrong, but wrong + a liar
Even if you're doing research it only proves that you had no idea what you were talking about at the time you posted originally. You're still going to be wrong, but wrong + a liar
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The female pay gap is one of the most obviously manufactured talking points in recent memory; and that's saying something. Of course the msm and all their sheeple eat it up without ever questioning anything.
If a woman is being paid less than a man based on the exact same parameters; it's absolutely wrong. Otherwise, it's garbage.
He's a fairly smart person. He's just a partisan cheerleader. If I thought he was dumb, I could just accept it and look over him.
It's not just the workers bigblue, it's all the communities and states that supported the needs of the plants. The cities and Counties that relied on the tax base, school systems. Without them more and more are dependent on the US Govt for support, who on here is in favor of the Fed Govt having more power?
Free trade was originally incorporated for the States, to help ALL the people. It was never intended to take advantage of third world nations, we have sold out our citizens for cheap labor.
If he appears smart to you, you should probably take a look in the mirror.
Sure politicians on both sides lie, but this is Clinton we're talking about, easily the greatest liar in the history of politics.
Has she ever told the truth about ANYTHING? I mean, she's been lying for over 40 years.
And not with Bill. He has been out there with everyone else. Can you blame him?
Free market concepts didn't begin in the US and they aren't limited to our borders.
Like I posted before, I agree with your ultimate conclusion; but for a different reason.
Oh I could definitely be wrong.
I'd really enjoy leftist dems try & square the circle of how CEO pay is so unconscionable and unfair while planning on voting for Hillary in Nov....who along with her hubby has earned $55 Million Dollars over the last 4 years, for giving speeches.
speeches
not producing a product, or providing a service customers clamor to pay for
speeches
speeches
not producing a product, or providing a service customers clamor to pay for
speeches
easy, they weren't stealing that money from the rank and file employees. if rich people want to give other rich people for standing behind a mic and talking, no harm to the proletariat, comrade.
Where it began is of little consequence, but the free trade in our nation was intended state to state.
$55 million is chump change. The Clinton Family Bribe & Trust Fund (A.K.A. The Clinton Global Initiative) took in over $2.2 Billion over the past ten years or so. The money came almost exclusively from foreign countries (mostly from the middle east where women are second class citizens). The money is supposed to be for charity but only about 10% goes for that. The rest goes to fund the lavish lifestyle of the Clinton Family, Huma and the rest of their team. Hillary is under investigation for peddling influence at the State Dept. regarding this but you don't hear reports on that very often. The media is more focused on the her mishandling of top secret documents. Hillary is a crook.
Not completely out but, I believe a lot of us will. Not enough energy from other sources yet.
I assume this is true for every politician ever, and I think public hanging is the proper punishment.
Man, in context, yeah. You are right. But in his context, no. He was basically saying that burning coal and oil is healthy for the planet. Keyword-healthy.
He was saying that renewable energy will kill us. Apparently wind energy killed over 5 million birds that media won't talk about.
Thoughts on Trump's list of potential judges? Conservative, non psychos....takes some heat off conservatives that have been anti Trump, gives them an out to come on over to Camp Donald (which will start happening in droves, btw).
Meanwhile the Democrat Party is *completely* divided due to the chosen one unable to quell Bernie F Sanders, registered Socialist.
Which convention was 'spose be a dumpster fire? Which party 'spose be watching their ass for a 3rd party split off?
End of the Clinton era ushered in by President Don Trump and registered Socialist Bernie Sanders.
GOOD JOB GOOD EFFORT HILLARY
Meanwhile the Democrat Party is *completely* divided due to the chosen one unable to quell Bernie F Sanders, registered Socialist.
Which convention was 'spose be a dumpster fire? Which party 'spose be watching their ass for a 3rd party split off?
End of the Clinton era ushered in by President Don Trump and registered Socialist Bernie Sanders.
GOOD JOB GOOD EFFORT HILLARY
