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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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Lol this makes no sense whatsoever given context of your initial post up to this one.

Are you defense? This rathole behavior is right up his alley
 
We go through this crap every time. ...

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nazis were liberal and socialists
You can pretend you know what you are talking about but your words betray you.
Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. But to address this canard fully, one must begin with the birth of the party. https://www.britannica.com/story/were-the-nazis-socialists

Above all, the Nazis were German white nationalists. What they stood for was the ascendancy of the “Aryan” race and the German nation, by any means necessary. Despite co-opting the name, some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality. https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

So no, Hitler wasn’t a socialist. Nazism wasn’t a socialist project. And comparing American Democrats to Nazis is not just incorrect, but wrong, just as it is when American Democrats and liberals directly compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. Nazism was a political project built on anti-Semitism, racism, and dictatorial verve, one that took place in a specific country and at a specific moment in history. We forget that fact at our own risk. https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18283879/nazism-socialism-hitler-gop-brooks-gohmert

If the absurdity of this style of reasoning is all too apparent, it is nonetheless widely believed. Already in 2007 in his book Liberal Fascism, Jonah Goldberg ran the line that "the original fascists were really on the left, and that liberals from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to Hillary Clinton have advocated policies and principles remarkably similar to those of Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism." Ever since, conservatives charge "liberal fascism" when their views and behaviour are challenged. https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302
 
There have been several studies attempting to quantify the impact both health care systems have on health outcomes. As you can imagine, it's pretty much an impossible task because of the complexity of health care systems and what you consider important. Some studies show slightly better outcomes for Canada and some show slightly better outcomes for the USA. The biggest problems with any such measurement is how do you account for lifestyle differences between the two countries and how do you weight each component that you measure. For example, are mortality rates the only thing that matters, or do wait times, etc., also matter. How do you adjust mortality rates for lifestyle differences? It's not as straight forward as you are trying to make it sound. To say that either system is superior based on the studies that have been done so far is to basically spread propaganda because measuring it is not an exact science.
You left out teenage birth rates & premature birth rates, murders, military deaths, drug OD's for starters.
 
45,000 Canadians came to the US for healthcare, most all for elective, non-emergency care. You want a breast implant? ... 1.4 million Americans left the US for healthcare.
So where else did Canucks go for healthcare - if you're want a meaningful comparison. But I doubt that.
 
Our govt in healthcare today:
-medicare loses $60b to fraud and errors per year
-after $600m and 3 years could not bring up a simple portal (ACA)
-VA system riddled with mistreatment, egregious waits, shortages, admin ineptness

But yeah, moving 2/3rd of the 330m people in this country off their private insurance to the govt is a great idea. Takes a lunatic that also hopes the country goes into a recession to get rid of DT to rationalize that.
 
Our govt in healthcare today:
-medicare loses $60b to fraud and errors per year
-after $600m and 3 years could not bring up a simple portal (ACA)
-VA system riddled with mistreatment, egregious waits, shortages, admin ineptness

But yeah, moving 2/3rd of the 330m people in this country off their private insurance to the govt is a great idea. Takes a lunatic that also hopes the country goes into a recession to get rid of DT to rationalize that.
You haven't lived until you have applied for Medicaid.

My mother had a stroke in December- long story short, she is now applying for Medicaid.

Anyone that thinks the gov't should take over healthcare should have their head examined. We're over 2 months and still not approved.

Heck, just try to get your address changed with the Social Security office. Two weeks and waiting on this one...
 
Lets be clear Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan when the Bush administration lead by Dick Cheney lied to the entire world about WMD's in Iraq and the desperate need to invade Iraq in order to stop Iraq from bombing America. That is how the GOP got America into this mess not Hillary. The truth is not on your side.
 
Lets be clear Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan when the Bush administration lead by Dick Cheney lied to the entire world about WMD's in Iraq and the desperate need to invade Iraq in order to stop Iraq from bombing America. That is how the GOP got America into this mess not Hillary. The truth is not on your side.

It's cool, continue to pretend Iraq and Afghanistan are the only conflicts we are involved in. The post you are refuting with your moral highground nonsense also includes Honduras, Syria, and Libya. They could have thrown in Yemen and some others.
 
NYC declares public health crisis due to measles outbreak. Must be all those conservative anti vaxxers at work again!

Definitely not unvaccinated refugees and immigrants...
Shocked.

I am continually amazed that an idiot like DiBlasio got elected... until I realize that part of NYC elected AOC as well.

Imagine how great that city could be if it were well managed...
 
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It's cool, continue to pretend Iraq and Afghanistan are the only conflicts we are involved in. The post you are refuting with your moral highground nonsense also includes Honduras, Syria, and Libya. They could have thrown in Yemen and some others.
Sorry you can't distill from my post that the largest (by a factor of trillions) mistake made was the decision to invade Iraq. If I had listed all I would have included El Salvador, Guatemala, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea etc. etc. etc.. If you knew me as well as you pretend then you would know I've been opposed to almost all military adventures this country has taken during my lifetime no matter who the party was in charge at the time. Very few have been for noble reasons and I will feel the same most likely if we attack Venezuela. That is one of the reasons Bill Clinton was so successful for me---he actually ended two wars and didn't lose one American soldier doing so.
 
Lets be clear Osama Bin Laden was in Afghanistan when the Bush administration lead by Dick Cheney lied to the entire world about WMD's in Iraq and the desperate need to invade Iraq in order to stop Iraq from bombing America. That is how the GOP got America into this mess not Hillary. The truth is not on your side.

Hillary’s husband bombed Iraq almost every week of his administration. He did nothing when the USS cole was bombed and before that targeted bin laden with tomahawk missiles to try and distract from the blow job fiasco. And you have the cajones to question truth? Bush was terrible when it came to Iraq but Clinton was worse not only did he constantly use Iraq as a political pawn to bomb he also allowed the terrorists who attacked on 9/11 to proliferate with no reprisal. Osama bin laden was in Afghanistan while they attacked embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. While they attempted to blow up WTC while they attacked our warship. Where was Hillary and her husband?
 
Sorry you can't distill from my post that the largest (by a factor of trillions) mistake made was the decision to invade Iraq. If I had listed all I would have included El Salvador, Guatemala, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea etc. etc. etc.. If you knew me as well as you pretend then you would know I've been opposed to almost all military adventures this country has taken during my lifetime no matter who the party was in charge at the time. Very few have been for noble reasons and I will feel the same most likely if we attack Venezuela. That is one of the reasons Bill Clinton was so successful for me---he actually ended two wars and didn't lose one American soldier doing so.

I had to double check because our foreign policy is completely insane, but you listed 5 countries we aren't currently involved in military conflict with, once again ignoring the 4 I mentioned that started under Obama. If actually believed what you said about Clinton, Trump should be your 2nd favorite president.
 
Hillary’s husband bombed Iraq almost every week of his administration. He did nothing when the USS cole was bombed and before that targeted bin laden with tomahawk missiles to try and distract from the blow job fiasco. And you have the cajones to question truth? Bush was terrible when it came to Iraq but Clinton was worse not only did he constantly use Iraq as a political pawn to bomb he also allowed the terrorists who attacked on 9/11 to proliferate with no reprisal. Osama bin laden was in Afghanistan while they attacked embassies in Tanzania and Kenya. While they attempted to blow up WTC while they attacked our warship. Where was Hillary and her husband?
Talk about hysteria and rewriting history! LOL What claptrap! First the US Cole was bombed on Clinton's last October in office by suicide bombers. You do understand what suicide means don't you?

Nonetheless Yemen did arrest two suspects in planning the attack the following December and Bush took the office of President the next month. You do understand we're not talking about a movie where the scenes change in a matter of seconds, don't you?

So tell me what did the GOP congress do those days other than sniff intern panties? Saddam was unable to even see most of Iraq and we weren't losing blood and treasure in the sands of Iraq looking for the Aladdin's bottle of WMD in the desert. You act as if what we know now we knew then when it concerns Osama Bin Laden, if that were true then Bush had a whole year to do something to prevent 9/11. Only an ignorant fool who is confused about the timeline thinks otherwise.
 
I had to double check because our foreign policy is completely insane, but you listed 5 countries we aren't currently involved in military conflict with, once again ignoring the 4 I mentioned that started under Obama. If actually believed what you said about Clinton, Trump should be your 2nd favorite president.
You do have a hard time understanding don't you? You know you may have to think about broadening your view in order to understand other people's POV.

We've been running covert operations in central America for the past 100 years on and off but we really doubled down in the 80's. You don't seem to understand that it really doesn't matter which party is in office because it is corporations that drive all this war mongering to start with.

You want to ignore all the crap we pulled during Reagan's years and then scream about what Hillary might have done or what Obama did with the two wars handed to him by Bush. Hypocritical and myopic claptrap. If it were movies it would be the 85th sequel!
 
"all these countries"? I didn't know that countries did any of those things.

I guess you didn't realize that every developed nation with medical schools has fairly sizable populations of foreign students.
Why don't you ask Rand Paul why he went to Canada for his hernia surgery?

45,000 Canadians came to the US for healthcare, most all for elective, non-emergency care. You want a breast implant? ... 1.4 million Americans left the US for healthcare.
So you are using one countries numbers (Canada) for a comparison to the US leaving out the rest of the world. Simpleton.
More people come to the us than we go to them and it is not close. Your numbers probably involve those who also work abroad and must use host nation services. I had to when I worked with the Belgian army back in the day.
 
"all these countries"? I didn't know that countries did any of those things.

I guess you didn't realize that every developed nation with medical schools has fairly sizable populations of foreign students.
Why don't you ask Rand Paul why he went to Canada for his hernia surgery?

45,000 Canadians came to the US for healthcare, most all for elective, non-emergency care. You want a breast implant? ... 1.4 million Americans left the US for healthcare.
Oh and by the way, FALSE.
 
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Actually,all we know is that theoretically better access could lead to better health, but it is far from fact. That assumes people would see a doctor regularly because it’s free. Cost is not the sole reason people don’t go to the doctor regularly. Many people who have insurance don’t see a doctor regularly. It also assumes people will make lifestyle modifications because a doctor tells them to. There are many examples of that not being the case. You are looking at universal health care as if it were some utopian system of healthcare. It is far from it because people are still people and do things that aren’t in their best interest.

I don’t think cost is as important as whether it fits within our philosophy of individual liberty. I don’t see universal health care as consistent with that philosophy of government.
I see a doctor only when pain gets to be too much if injured. Have not been in a couple of years now and before that about 4 or 5. I am the norm.
 
Haha come on. Nothing in the history of the world has helped combat poverty like Capitalism has.

People like you like to whine and bitch about capitalism because we have billionaires. Yet you turn a blind eye that, that very same system has helped improve the average person's life, like we have never seen before.

I'm glad that we have people like Elon Musk and other billionaires who are never satisfied. Aren't you happy that Elon Musk made Tesla and made a true market and competition for electric cars? You're a lefty, aren't you all about the environment? Aren't you happy that he was at the forefront of self driving cars. Once self driving cars become the norm, we are going to see a mass drop in vehicular deaths.

What about those pesky Rockefellers who helped bring this country into the industrial revolution which ended up advancing the average daily quality of life for the average citizen unlike any other time in history?

Those are just two examples of those damn never satisfied rich people. The examples are basically infinite. Those unsatisfied rich people helped make your life as nice as it is now. Instead of bashing those people, maybe you should think of ways you can use the easily accessible tools they helped provide you with, to do or create something great yourself which would then help and advance the quality of life for the average and poor person. Or is it just easier to bitch because they're rich and demand that they should give away more of their money.
 
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