Whatever. People asked for examples and I provided one and talked through it. As he mentioned, look into it on your own
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it is worse than just illegals voting. think about the multiple voters and the dead voters. you will know when they are scared, that's when the bulk of voting goes absentee; who will check their ID? don't get started on ballot harvesting...
If you amend it, we must put the need for voter ID and proof of citizenship in the amendment.
I think the point being made is that your example was an extremely poor one, with no logical basis as to why those requirements are in any way "Suppressing" voters. We need your explanations on just how it's suppressing so we can shoot that down the toilet too.
I guess we just disagree. I don't see the point in requiring proof of citizenship in KS when voter fraud (all types) wasn't an issue for years and years. As I mentioned in a previous post, I don't think this is KK's true motive. For years, he went on and on about this problem and would come up with numbers that simply weren't there. When pressed or investigated, he couldn't prove his numbers and would back track. It was a pattern with this guy. So I go back to what is his true motive with trying all of this? Party politics. Most of the people who were put on the lists tended to be young and urban and more likely to vote for a democrat. The dude isn't dumb; look at his education. Just don't see the point in throwing up a law (which was unconstitutional), when there is no need and in the process, take thousands of eligible voters off the rolls and make it more difficult for them to vote.
Voter suppression is a strategy used to influence the outcome of an election by discouraging or preventing specific groups of people from voting.
Taking 30k+ voters off the rolls and requiring them to prove citizenship (which is illegal) is voter suppression. Sorry you cannot see this
Gee I wonder why ppl think this, when MSNBC and CNN and the gang have told ppl repeatedly getting tax cuts is bad. The reality is 8 out 10 Americans did indeed get a tax cut
Being ruled unconstitutional by a court means it is unconstitutional. So if an acting attorney general of a state is given a court order to do something, and he doesn't follow it because he disagrees, that is okay in your book?
And btw the judge that made the ruling was a Bush appointee: "In brief, Judge Robinson found that the defense had presented no credible evidence of the massive problem claimed and instead had erected substantial obstacles to voter registration by people eligible to vote per the National Voter Registration Act and the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution. She further found defendant Kobach in contempt of court."
It should never be amended for the electoral college. The USA is a collective of states with their own state constitutions that agreed to form a nation but the states only gave limited powers to the federal government. I know, I know you can get up off the floor from laughing but that is how the country was founded and intended.
If just a popular vote then there is no longer a need for states, or the related state and local governments. Mob rule.
That is the problem with liberals. They don't want to be able to run their life the way the want to. They want to tell you how you must live your life. If I wanted it to be ok for people to defecate on my streets, I would move to California. See that is the way it was intended to work.
I love it when ppl say "insert other country it's like the left bc insert welfare program"
What's the population of Israel compared to the US? Doesnt Israel outsource most of its military to the US to alleviate that expense that allows to pay for said welfare programs? Hard pills to swallow.
But you believe voter suppression is the reason. Why is it wrong to prove citizenship to get voter ID? The requirement to vote in federal elections is you must be a citizen, correct?
What logical reason beyond you don't see a need is there for not making sure requirements are followed? Have you seen numerous 8 year old kids trying to vote? Why prove your age then?
Proof of identity applied to all races. At the very core of a fair and accurate election, an electoral body must be able to determine the person 1) is eligible to vote and 2) only votes once.
That's fundamental fairness and common sense. Doesn't even have to do with illegals. Applies across the board. Not voter suppression. Far from making the man out to be a monster (per your original post).
The rationale for these laws get shot down is based on cost associated with an id. In no way has anything to do with voter suppression.
That's fundamental fairness and common sense. Doesn't even have to do with illegals. Applies across the board. Not voter suppression. Far from making the man out to be a monster (per your original post).
The rationale for these laws get shot down is based on cost associated with an id. In no way has anything to do with voter suppression.
Our household is big into recycling, as is our community. As a nation, we really should explore better methods for waste disposal. Plastics are killing us.The road to hell is paved with...
Keep on a sorting, it's all going to the same spot.
Most recycling is going straight to the landfill
https://theweek.com/articles/831864/recycling-crisis
Until recently, the U.S. and other developed countries sold much of their recyclables to China, which accepted more than 40 percent of American wastepaper, plastic, glass, metal, and other reusable materials. Several other Asian countries and some U.S. processing companies bought most of the rest. China began importing trash in the late 1980s to feed its growing manufacturing sector. Taking advantage of the country's abundant supply of cheap labor, Chinese companies employed legions of people to sort through the junk; it was then converted into cheap exports such as shoes, bottles, hoses, and phones. Shipping containers filled with Chinese goods would drop off their cargo in the U.S. and return filled with recyclable trash to be turned into more stuff. That all changed in January 2018. That's when China banned most imports of "loathsome foreign garbage," including post-consumer plastic and mixed paper. The recycling industry — which handles about 25 percent of America's total waste — now has nowhere to send what it collects. "I've been in garbage all my life," says Kevin Barnes, the solid-waste director for the city of Bakersfield, California. "This is unprecedented."
What's happening instead?
More trash is being buried or burned. Many communities used to make money selling trash to private recycling companies that would process the materials and then sell them to China or to manufacturers. Now they're having to pay those companies to take their recycling away. Philadelphia went from making $67 a ton selling trash in 2012 to having to pay $40 a ton in mid-2018 to get rid of its recycling. The city now burns about half of the city's recycling, converting the waste to energy. Other cities have responded by cutting back the kinds of recycling they accept, while many small communities have been forced to suspend or cancel recycling programs altogether and send everything to landfills.
Another thing I've noticed has been a recent collapse in aluminum can prices over the past year. Here in Austin, aluminum can prices declined from 48 cents/lb to 34 cents/lb. I've probably got 30+ lbs in cans sitting around.
"Unconstitutional" is in the eyes of the current court. Rulings get overturned all the time.
If you're against voter registration... well, that's all I need to know.
Faisal Ahmed was hired at a top London secondary school...problem was he couldn't read or write hahaha
Agreed rulings do get overturned. But until they do, they have to be followed. KK didn't follow the court order and was held in contempt. It is actually pretty simple. We can't have a system of government where we ignore law because we don't agree with it
Priorities backasswards:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...1LZUXvROqkvGnQQ8oHkgvmiy22SDbBPIGn__UPMTGJXdo
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...1LZUXvROqkvGnQQ8oHkgvmiy22SDbBPIGn__UPMTGJXdo
"Skyscrapers kill birds"......Interesting way of looking at it.
Another way is that birds are f-ing stupid and fly into large buildings rather than fly around or over them.
But that's just me.
I think you are getting too caught up in this particular situation. I couldn't care less about this guy, what happened in Kansas, or the Constitutionality of that particular law. I'm making a general comment about protecting the electoral process from fraud. Once fraud occurs in an election, it's too late to correct it because an election has been stolen or tainted at that point. If people are truly interested in fair elections, I don't see how anyone can argue against laws that make it difficult for people to vote if they are not who they say they are.
What is your point? Is it this quote from your article?
Lower refunds don't mean Americans paid more taxes—quite the opposite. Most workers paid less in taxes last year and saw higher take-home pay week in and week out. But for many Americans, a slightly higher paycheck doesn't quite have the same visibility as a single $3,000 check in March or April.
Libs:
"HAHA TRUMP IS SO DUMB FOR SAYING WINDMILLS KILL BIRDS"
Also libs:
"GIANT BUILDINGS MUST GO. KILLS BIRDS".
How does a stationary object cause anything? Are birds flying into mountains also?
"HAHA TRUMP IS SO DUMB FOR SAYING WINDMILLS KILL BIRDS"
Also libs:
"GIANT BUILDINGS MUST GO. KILLS BIRDS".
How does a stationary object cause anything? Are birds flying into mountains also?
If requiring voters to prove citizenship is "Illegal" then I guess Kentucky is breaking the law by requiring I show mine? Twice? (At least I had to show mine twice, may have been a mixup in where I was in line or something, but I did nonetheless.)
Not following how requiring proof of citizenship is "Illegal" and still want your explanation on why proving that is wrong in practice or theory.
And I also still am not grasping how requiring an ID is considered "Suppression" you still haven't explained that one either.
Also, many states are required by law (even though most states fail to do it) to purge or clean their voter rolls to ensure voting integrity.
Maybe there's an easier question to ask you...What do you think the voting procedure should be when you go to the polls? From the time you walk in the door to the time you slap your "I voted" sticker on your chest. What should that procedure be that ensures all truly eligible voters get to vote and the potential for fraud and abuse is eliminated?
Wow, we need to abolish public libraries for being racist.
Trump is right. Barr could have released the Mueller report with every single word not redacted and the dems would say "Well why weren't these lines redacted"
Its being redacted and they are saying "Well what is Barr hiding!!!" Imbeciles.
Being a dumbass democrat must suck.
