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So President Obama just said "the world must unite against the scourge of terrorism" - I'm not sure if Islam was even mentioned.

CNN is saying that global markets have already been affected by this latest bombing.

A couple of things:

1. How does "the world unite against the scourge of terrorism"?

Does that mean that everyone joins together in thinking "hey terrorism is a bad thing don't do it mmkay"? What does it actually mean for the world to unite?
Does it mean everyone sits around and wait for "moderate" Islam to go give radical Islam a good talking to so that they don't ever, ever, never go blow innocent people up?

Nope.

2. Nothing gets the attention of governments like slipping financial markets.

Did you expect that pu$$y of a POTUS to say anything different? He won't use the worlds Islam and terrorist in the same sentence, just like he says ISIL instead of ISIS. He is the supreme apologist. He can go join the rest of those backwards fcks for all I care. Tits on a boar hog have more use than him.
 
I will say that I don't believe Muslim genocide is the answer. Which seems to be what some people are okay with.
 
I will say that I don't believe Muslim genocide is the answer. Which seems to be what some people are okay with.

Do you think there is a way to make them change their beliefs?

Do you think (not being a smart-ass) showing them peace by example and love by example will work?

What do you do with an ideology (religion) that refuses to assimilate into other cultures, when their cultures is predicated on violence?

I will say that for the few peaceful devout Muslims in the world, I consider them to be the radicals, because they are not the norm for their way of life.
 
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Trickle down economics did the same thing to Iceland. Did Iceland have a housing bubble or ship millions of jobs out of the country? Everywhere trickle down economics has been tried it has destroyed the country. TDE is a completely provably discredited economic theory, period.

Do you realize that some of us work in the investment/economic/banking businesses and recognize BS/lies easily?

"The Icelandic financial crisis was a major economic and political event in Iceland that involved the default of all three of the country's major privately owned commercial banks in late 2008, following their difficulties inrefinancing their short-term debt and a run on deposits in the Netherlands and the United Kingdom."

I can't tell if you're stupid, if you think everybody is stupid, or if you're a troll.
 
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There is only one Solution.

Is it a FINAL solution?


Gotta remember to always be the good guys. It might sound idealistic, but idealism is important, especially for OUR nation, a nation FOUNDED on idealism. I believe that we absolute can "afford" to help out families... mothers and fathers and children... who are trying to flee one of the most vicious enemies in the world. We can afford it in terms of expense, and we can afford it in terms of danger, because frankly, no terrorist is going to bother using the refugee program to get here to attack us. There are a million easier ways to do it.

At the same time, you've got balance the understanding that the vast majority of Muslims (and certainly Muslim Americans) are normal, average people with the threat that terrorism poses. There does need to be a certain balance between safety and freedom/equality, and we have to make sure that we don't let certain (and somewhat understandable) denial from certain avenues of the Islamic world interfere with what is generally reasonable and sensible action. Security needs to be enforced, and it might even take a little chipping away at some freedoms to make sure it exists. (It might even take higher taxes to pay for it!)

Oh... and racism and hate of a religion with over a billion adherents have no place in the discussion. We, as Americans, should be capable of being rational, sensible, and realistic, even if our enemies aren't.
 
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You might want to do a little Google research on religious violence and intolerance in Indonesia the past few years before you put them on a pedestal. It's not pretty.


This isn't related to Indonesia, but to all global Muslim violence against Christians. (And that's just Christians--there's plenty more Muslim on Muslim violence.) There's a lot more going on than we realize...virtually every day.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/christian-attacks.aspx

Pedestal? You may want to reread my post and what I was replying to.

I'm saying there are tons of Islamic terrorists in Indonesia.

The nut job was saying that Asia keeps them out, I was showing that was a big old FALSE.
 
And what do Japan, China, S.Korea think? Indonesia is the cesspool of Asia, they actually allow those middle eastern scum to overrun their country. Keep making excuses for them though. Cute how you pick the one..no no no...ONLY country in Asia that allows the neanderthals to inhabit and murder at will.

Excuses for who, you psycho?

You said Asians keep them under control, I gave an example of where they don't… in ASIA.

You are a nut job who thinks the Boston Marathon terrorist attack was an experiment and our government is involved in a global conspiracy to convert the world to Islam, correct?
 
Pedestal? You may want to reread my post and what I was replying to.

I'm saying there are tons of Islamic terrorists in Indonesia.

The nut job was saying that Asia keeps them out, I was showing that was a big old FALSE.


The "nut job" also specifically mentioned Japan, China, and Korea, but please continue making excuses for the Islam, maybe Obama will see your dedication and find a spot for you.
 
Southeast Asia is a MESS. The most heavily Islamic place on earth, with FAR more than their fair share of militants and crazies. You often think that the Middle East is the only issue... places like the Horn of Africa and SE Asia are just as bad. And don't even get me started on Pakistan.

The fact that the world has become SUCH a small place, both in terms of easy travel and also easy dissemination of information, makes it a lot more dangerous. It might sound silly, but thank god for the Atlantic ocean.



And good lord... are you really comparing us to China? Like... we should be more like China? No thanks; we are doing just fine, all things considered. More Americans have been killed by domestic crazies (anti government folks, racists, the like) than by Islamic terrorists since 9/11 in our nation. I don't think we need to suddenly start emulating one of the most restrictive and isolationist and racist nations on Earth, thanks much. Japan? Yuck. No thanks.
 
Excuses for who, you psycho?

You said Asians keep them under control, I gave an example of where they don't… in ASIA.

You are a nut job who thinks the Boston Marathon terrorist attack was an experiment and our government is involved in a global conspiracy to convert the world to Islam, correct?

WRONG!

Was martial law enacted following the attack in Boston?

Does Obama have members of the Nation of Islam working in U.S. government?

Has Obama used the words "terrorist" and "Islam" in the same sentence to describe cowardly attacks?

Keep making excuses though, you seem to enjoy keeping your head in the sand and throwing up peace signs.
 
Uh, UK, you might want to unlike my thing, because I disagreed with you with an edit. Sorry. I do a lot of editing:(
 
Excuses for who, you psycho?

You said Asians keep them under control, I gave an example of where they don't… in ASIA.

You are a nut job who thinks the Boston Marathon terrorist attack was an experiment and our government is involved in a global conspiracy to convert the world to Islam, correct?


I did notice for someone who is such an Islamic apologist and I'm guessing probably a pacifist, you were the first to start name calling directed at another poster...keep up the good work. lol
 
BTW, just to point out... OUR reaction (as a government/nation) to things like this doesn't need to be the same as the EUs reaction. They are in a LOT more danger than we are. The nature of a giant continent with fairly open borders that physically connects to all of these places VS an ocean of distance.
 
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The "nut job" also specifically mentioned Japan, China, and Korea, but please continue making excuses for the Islam, maybe Obama will see your dedication and find a spot for you.

"Funny how you don't see Muslims blowing shit up in Japan or other Asian countries."

Maybe the voices inside your head or the New World Order that is planning to convert the world to Islam have taken over your keyboard?

I'm not making any excuses. I want to blow up all of the terrorists.

And I said if regular Muslims don't step up, they are going to be destroyed in a global war against terrorism, too.
 
Southeast Asia is a MESS. The most heavily Islamic place on earth, with FAR more than their fair share of militants and crazies. You often think that the Middle East is the only issue... places like the Horn of Africa and SE Asia are just as bad. And don't even get me started on Pakistan.

The fact that the world has become SUCH a small place, both in terms of easy travel and also easy dissemination of information, makes it a lot more dangerous. It might sound silly, but thank god for the Atlantic ocean.



And good lord... are you really comparing us to China? Like... we should be more like China? No thanks; we are doing just fine, all things considered. More Americans have been killed by domestic crazies (anti government folks, racists, the like) than by Islamic terrorists since 9/11 in our nation. I don't think we need to suddenly start emulating one of the most restrictive and isolationist and racist nations on Earth, thanks much. Japan? Yuck. No thanks.


In terms of immigration policy, absolutely I think we could take a page out of their playbook(s), but that is the only thing I would follow their example on.
 
"Funny how you don't see Muslims blowing shit up in Japan or other Asian countries."

Maybe the voices inside your head or the New World Order that is planning to convert the world to Islam have taken over your keyboard?

I'm not making any excuses. I want to blow up all of the terrorists.

And I said if regular Muslims don't step up, they are going to be destroyed in a global war against terrorism, too.

Then you missed my reply or are just fascinated with my first post...I'm flattered btw if it's the later. My point was MOST asian countries don't allow for this bullshit, yet you found the exception to the rule, congrats on proving me wrong...you found the 1 out of....

"regular" muslims won't step up, because they are cowards. They want everyone else to fight their battles for them.
 
Kasich has said he doesn't want to be Trump's VP pick and recently stated he doesn't even know if he can support Trump for President. The one thing Trump would need is for Kasich to campaign for him in Ohio.

Kasich is just hanging around waiting for a brokered convention, hoping the Establishment will turn to him. If that doesn't happen he'll gladly accept the opportunity to be the VP nominee for whoever wins (no matter how often he says he won't.)
 
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Kasich is just hanging around waiting for a brokered convention, hoping the Establishment will turn to him. If that doesn't happen he'll gladly accept the opportunity to be the VP nominee for whoever wins (no matter how often he says he won't.)
I agree strongly with that first sentence and disagree just as strongly with the second. The appeal that makes Kasich so popular in Ohio would absolutely evaporate if he endorses, much less joins, Trump.
 
Kasich is being used and he doesn't realize it IMO. GOP wants to deny Trump, but it won't be for Kasich, maybe VP for Romney at best.
 
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If President can hold a G8 summit on the myth of man made climate change, he should call for a G8 summit on Islamist terrorism.
 
WRONG!

Was martial law enacted following the attack in Boston?

Does Obama have members of the Nation of Islam working in U.S. government?

Has Obama used the words "terrorist" and "Islam" in the same sentence to describe cowardly attacks?

Keep making excuses though, you seem to enjoy keeping your head in the sand and throwing up peace signs.
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Wildcat Willy, the wording in your original post was somewhat twisted in the way I interpreted it. I see your point..but had to reread it a couple of times to get the intent.

What's interesting---that's not being discussed--is the double standard many Muslim's have towards the West and other religions. The restrictions and laws against building churches and/or promoting Christianity is very harsh in most Muslim countries. And, for many of those same countries, they've been incredibly restrictive about taking in Muslim immigrants. (I can only imagine what they would say if 50,000 Christians/Buddhists/Hindus showed up on their borders and asked for asylum.)

Western countries are being vilified for not opening its doors to Muslim immigrants, but the same practice is simply not being offered to those of their own faith.
 
If President can hold a G8 summit on the myth of man made climate change, he should call for a G8 summit on Islamist terrorism.

But the first step would be for him to admit that it's Islamic extremism...he won't do that. Just like he won't call blacks out for killing each other or do shit for inner cities, but let a white cop kill a black criminal and by GOD we have ourselves a hate crime. The man is freakin worthless, and nothing but an enabler for lazy do nothing people from all walks of life.
 
Asian countries that have islamic terrorist groups within them (not just Indonesia)…

in alphabetical order…

Afghanistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Cambodia
Georgia
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Malaysia
Myanmar
Oman
Pakisatan
Palestine
Phillipines
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Syria
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkey
Turkmenistan
UAE
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
 
Kasich is being used and he doesn't realize it IMO. GOP wants to deny Trump, but it won't be for Kasich, maybe VP for Romney at best.
very possible, but I don't think he's being "used"; the anti-Trump wing of the party is just benefitting from Kasich's performance in Ohio. the idea of a Romney coming out on stage is certainly an interesting one and honestly i wouldn't be shocked if that happens on a third or fourth ballot.
 
"Oh... and racism and hate of a religion with over a billion adherents have no place in the discussion. We, as Americans, should be capable of being rational, sensible, and realistic, even if our enemies aren't."

So, size of religion matters whether or not to hate it? Serious question.
 
Wildcat Willy, the wording in your original post was somewhat twisted in the way I interpreted it. I see your point..but had to reread it a couple of times to get the intent.

What's interesting---that's not being discussed--is the double standard many Muslim's have towards the West and other religions. The restrictions and laws against building churches and/or promoting Christianity is very harsh in most Muslim countries. And, for many of those same countries, they've been incredibly restrictive about taking in Muslim immigrants. (I can only imagine what they would say if 50,000 Christians/Buddhists/Hindus showed up on their borders and asked for asylum.)

Western countries are being vilified for not opening its doors to Muslim immigrants, but the same practice is simply not being offered to those of their own faith.


I probably worded it weirdly. Maybe that's why the conspiracy guy is saying I'm making excuses for Muslims?

I know its against everything we stand for, but I think any Muslim trying to get in to the US right now needs to be closely investigated. Call it racial profiling if you want, but that is who the terrorists are.

We can't have an open border right now. That's pretty obvious.
 
Asian countries that have islamic terrorist groups within them (not just Indonesia)…

in alphabetical order…

Afghanistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Cambodia
Georgia
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Malaysia
Myanmar
Oman
Pakisatan
Palestine
Phillipines
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Syria
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkey
Turkmenistan
UAE
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen

Ok, I'm seriously not being a smart-ass, but did you ever take any world geography classes? You listed a LOT of Middle Eastern countries, not Asian aside from maybe four of five.

I will concede to you. However I still stand by my contention that Japan, China, S. Korea are doing it the right way. When I think of Asian countries those are the first that pop in my head, not Laos, or Malaysia. So I stand corrected, and apologize for not making myself more clear from the beginning.
 
very possible, but I don't think he's being "used"; the anti-Trump wing of the party is just benefitting from Kasich's performance in Ohio. the idea of a Romney coming out on stage is certainly an interesting one and honestly i wouldn't be shocked if that happens on a third or fourth ballot.

If the GOP pulls that, you'll never see another Republican win again and it's just giving Hillary the presidency without a doubt. Good luck getting a high turnout if you don't go with the candidate the people choose.
 
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