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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
why do you keep parroting this stupid comparison? someone on the Obama campaign screwed up and didn't file the names for 1300 of the 3.2million campaign donations. know what the camapaign didnt do? they didn't send out ghoulinia on every tv show to claim it never happened and then later claim it did happen but nothing bad happened. They admitted fault, fixed the problem and moved on. It also wasn't Obama that did any of it, some random accountant. Trump & Cohen wilfully tried to defraud the FEC & american public so they wouldnt find out he is a POS that screws around on his pregnant wives.
Obama's best move was hiring an unethical race baiter and defender of all things Dem as AG. And having the media asking him what "enchanted" him about the office surely helped.
 
Am I the only person seeing a real problem with Lannie Davis as Cohen Lawyer.


Trump & Cohen wilfully tried to defraud the FEC & american public so they wouldnt find out he is a POS that screws around on his pregnant wives.

Yeah I was shocked to find out Trump was a cheater. Just shocked. [roll]

BTW, the Democrats caused the death of Mollie Tibbetts.
 
No, he didn't. Trump paid out of pocket with his own money. And since you're so good at explaining things, then explain how this interfered with the election.

As for the sway an election part, for it to be an FEC violation you have to prove that the payment only existed but for the campaign. That this issue was specifically related to the campaign.

Are you implying that the only reason Trumppaid off a porn star is because he was running for president? Or, that Stormy only existed and wanted money because Trump was running for president? Or, Trump has never paid anyone off when he wasn't running for president?

Nailed it. Bogans is a dumb ass just like Stupidlee, Fakenewsdragn, Moron booty. These guys self pleasure themselves to the thought of Trump getting hit hard. It ain't happening.
 
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“There’s no evidence they did it. If they did it, who cares? If they did it, they certainly didn’t do it to help Trump. I mean, it’s preposterous.”

Ann Coulter --- republican hero
 
No, he didn't. Trump paid out of pocket with his own money. And since you're so good at explaining things, then explain how this "swayed an election".

For it to be an FEC violation you have to prove that the payment only existed but for the campaign. That this issue was specifically related to the campaign.

Are you implying that the only reason Trump paid off a porn star is because he was running for president? Or, that Stormy only existed and wanted money because Trump was running for president? Or, Trump has never paid anyone off when he wasn't running for president?

So a guys going to jail for 5 years for orchestrating payment of a persons personal money to a pornstar? They defrauded the FEC by using campaign money in excess of the federal limit and reporting it as a donation when it was in fact used to silence a hooker. They tried to launder money through his campaign and got caught. That is a federal crime. Everything else you’re saying is BS. It’s a crime to launder money through a presidential election. The dudes going to jail.
 
So if you are interested in a reasonable and respectable answer to a contining question here is a short video---not a meme--- that lays out an American answer.
 
why do you keep parroting this stupid comparison? Trump & Cohen wilfully tried to defraud the FEC & american public so they wouldnt find out he is a POS that screws around on his pregnant wives.

The only stupid comparison here is trying to compare what Trump did to an FEC violation. You're making stuff up. I suggest you read the actual pea and not take cues from the media. The FEC was never defrauded. Trump spent his own money to pay for an event that didn't occur because of the campaign.
 
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So a guys going to jail for 5 years for orchestrating payment of a persons personal money to a pornstar?

Is this serious? Do you actually think that's what coax his pleading guilty and that's why he's going to prison? Read the plea deal. They have him on seven felony counts of tax evasion and bank fraud. He was facing decades.
 
Levi fights the fight with memes....almost like he is a russian....nah.

love the memes from your favorite Democratic Socialist website. at least you don't hide your true colors anymore.

When you’re retarded and can’t engage in a debate without getting exposed as a moron, just post a meme. Don’t bother fact checking the meme. Post that modern day version of an email chain and eat it up.
 
The weirdo that shitposts memes en masse is calling people mindless bots. Ok.

I’d like to compare how many times we’ve bashed Republicans and even disagreed with Trump and compare it to the number of times that any of these douchebags have been critical of the left. You never see it. They’re unified on all fronts. They get their talking points from the Dem masters on what to get mad about and what to regurgitate and they’re off.
 
The only stupid comparison here is trying to compare what Trump did to an FEC violation. You're making stuff up. I suggest you read the actual pea and not take cues from the media. The FEC was never defrauded. Trump spent his own money to pay for an event that didn't occur because of the campaign.

It doesn't make a difference man. These libs are dead set on fake news and going with it. facts be damned
 
So if you are interested in a reasonable and respectable answer to a contining question here is a short video---not a meme--- that lays out an American answer.
No he uses MLK and events from 50 years ago to make a very false equivalence to play to the emotional fawning audience and avoids most parts of the real issue....millionaires protesting ON THE JOB that are hurting the revenue stream that pays them.
 
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The only stupid comparison here is trying to compare what Trump did to an FEC violation. You're making stuff up. I suggest you read the actual pea and not take cues from the media. The FEC was never defrauded. Trump spent his own money to pay for an event that didn't occur because of the campaign.

Is this serious? Do you actually think that's what coax his pleading guilty and that's why he's going to prison? Read the plea deal. They have him on seven felony counts of tax evasion and bank fraud. He was facing decades.

No, Trump laundered his money through his campaign to pay a hooker. Until you acknowledge that fact it’s pointless to debate with you. A guys going to prison for it and you’re still calling it fake news. They can not only prove it, the guy admitted it.
 
So a guys going to jail for 5 years for orchestrating payment of a persons personal money to a pornstar? They defrauded the FEC by using campaign money in excess of the federal limit and reporting it as a donation when it was in fact used to silence a hooker. They tried to launder money through his campaign and got caught. That is a federal crime.

No, Trump laundered his money through his campaign to pay a hooker. Until you acknowledge that fact it’s pointless to debate with you

You keep repeating this but the facts don't back it up. You're the one not acknowledging the facts and injecting conjecture.

Show me where in the plea deal it says that Trump directed Cohen to use campaign money to pay her off and then report it as a donation in an attempt to defraud the FEC.

I can show you in the plea deal where it says Trump reimbursed Cohen out of pocket.

A guys going to prison for it and you’re still calling it fake news.

Now you're making things up. I haven't typed "fake news" once. I simply pointed out that there are much more serious charges sending him to prison, and they're what caused him to plea instead of facing decades.
 
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No, Trump laundered his money through his campaign to pay a hooker. Until you acknowledge that fact it’s pointless to debate with you. A guys going to prison for it and you’re still calling it fake news. They can not only prove it, the guy admitted it.

That isn’t what happened though, he isn’t going to jail for that.

Cohen isn’t going to jail because of a FEC violation. He’s going to jail for tax evasion and bank fraud.
 
You keep repeating this but the facts don't back it up. You're the one not acknowledging the facts and injecting conjecture.

Show me where in the plea deal it says that Trump directed Cohen to use campaign money to pay her off and then report it as a donation in an attempt to defraud the FEC.

I can show you in the plea deal where it says Trump reimbursed Cohen out of pocket.



Now you're making things up. I haven't typed "fake news" once. I simply pointed out that there are much more serious charges sending him to prison, and they're what caused him to plea instead of facing decades.


After Cohen failed to either execute the agreement immediately or pay the woman, she threatened, in late October -- 14 days before the election -- to Pecker to take her story to another publication. Pecker then informed Cohen, in part by calling him on an encrypted phone app. He told Cohen that the deal needed to be completed "or it could look awfully bad for everyone," according to court filings. Cohen then agreed to make the payment and finalize the deal.
Appearing in court on Tuesday, Cohen said of the charge linked to McDougal that it was done "for the principal purpose of influencing the election." Regarding the charge linked to Clifford, Cohen said the money "was later repaid to me by the candidate."
 
You think Trump is going to get impeached because of this? Good lord

You dumbasses have been Hollering “Nixon” since Election Day, remember when firing Yates was Trumps version of the Saturday night massacre.

Dems are always at war with reality.

“I have a penis but I’m really a woman.”
“Socialism can work.”
“Gun free zones/gun control will work.”
“This is literally like Nazi Germany.”
“Facebook ads led to Trump winning but media and tech companies colluding with Democrats is no big deal.”
“This is the end of Trump” said a billion times since summer of 2015.
 
After Cohen failed to either execute the agreement immediately or pay the woman, she threatened, in late October -- 14 days before the election -- to Pecker to take her story to another publication. Pecker then informed Cohen, in part by calling him on an encrypted phone app. He told Cohen that the deal needed to be completed "or it could look awfully bad for everyone," according to court filings. Cohen then agreed to make the payment and finalize the deal.
Appearing in court on Tuesday, Cohen said of the charge linked to McDougal that it was done "for the principal purpose of influencing the election." Regarding the charge linked to Clifford, Cohen said the money "was later repaid to me by the candidate."

“Influencing the election” Lol. Not wanting info out (ridiculous considering the pussy tape)? Sounds like he’d be a great fit for Democrats. They love omitting info to affect elections. They will even go as far as to fund a bullshit dossier to spy on people and slander their opponent, use DNC donors to pay women to accuse people of sexual assault (amazing how this fell out of news after five minutes), $84M worth of money laundering for the DNC/Clinton camp, using DOJ slush fund to fund leftist activists, colluding with big tech companies to silence opposing views and only promote their BS, collude with network media and print media to promote propaganda and try to influence the election.
 
After Cohen failed to either execute the agreement immediately or pay the woman, she threatened, in late October -- 14 days before the election -- to Pecker to take her story to another publication. Pecker then informed Cohen, in part by calling him on an encrypted phone app. He told Cohen that the deal needed to be completed "or it could look awfully bad for everyone," according to court filings. Cohen then agreed to make the payment and finalize the deal.
Appearing in court on Tuesday, Cohen said of the charge linked to McDougal that it was done "for the principal purpose of influencing the election." Regarding the charge linked to Clifford, Cohen said the money "was later repaid to me by the candidate."


Tell me how that’s a crime?

The candidate repaid the money from his personal money, not campaign money.

That plea deal was for the sole purpose of getting that line.
 
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After Cohen failed to either execute the agreement immediately or pay the woman, she threatened, in late October -- 14 days before the election -- to Pecker to take her story to another publication. Pecker then informed Cohen, in part by calling him on an encrypted phone app. He told Cohen that the deal needed to be completed "or it could look awfully bad for everyone," according to court filings. Cohen then agreed to make the payment and finalize the deal.
Appearing in court on Tuesday, Cohen said of the charge linked to McDougal that it was done "for the principal purpose of influencing the election." Regarding the charge linked to Clifford, Cohen said the money "was later repaid to me by the candidate."

Where does it say that Trump said to use campaign funds and defraud the FEC? It doesn't. It does say that Trump reimbursed him out of pocket. Trump spent his own money to pay for an event that occurred outside of the campaign. That's not an FEC violation. That's a common NDA.

As for influence the election part, they have to prove that the payment only existed but for the campaign. That this issue was specifically related to the campaign. They have to prove Trump wouldn't have paid her off in '15 but only did so in '16 because of the campaign.

You know how hard that is to prove, especially considering there are multiple instances of precedent. Trump has done this exact thing, multiple times, throughout his life while he was never involved in a campaign. So good luck is all I can say.
 
Cohen has nothing. If he did we'd know. Best he has is a lame fineable violation, and that's beyond weak. Additionally he's likely committed perjury at some instance (assuming his congressional testimony was under oath).

It's only significance is 1) the ability to string this out as long as possible hoping for a huge turnout at midterms and 2) using it as an impeachment technicality in the even they take the Senate (which feeds back into the voter turnout)
 
Crazy time to be alive. 3 big events today.

  • Manafort convicted of tax evasion. Left is certain this conclusively proves Trump is surrounded by crooks, and is a crook himself. Right says this has nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with Russia.
  • Cohen pleads guilty to violating campaign finance laws, implicates Trump. Left says more evidence Trump is a crook, this is the beginning of the end. Right says paying women to stay quiet is a crime, and is a campaign contribution? Who cares?
  • Illegal immigrant arrested for killing Iowa coed. Left doesn’t notice, right is enraged and thinks this reflects exactly what is wrong with the left today.
Switching between Fox News and CNN is surreal. They don’t attempt to inform. They cheerlead.

It’s always dangerous to predict what will resonate. My guess is the people supposedly “moderate” or “Independent” will be more likely to dismiss the Manafort verdict (‘tax evasion?’) and Cohen plea (‘they paid someone to shut up, we knew what kind of person Trump is’) and be moved by the dead college student. IOW, as far as November goes, slight advantage Trump. Of course, other shoes could drop.....
 
No one wants criminals to “get off”. What we want is equal justice under the law where a political party isn’t tipping the scale.

This isn’t about convicting Trump, or Justice. It’s about damaging a President, and preventing the next outsider from running.

The Presidents lawyer was raided! That doesn’t cause you concern in the least bit?
Probably not, since you don’t care that the Govt leaked personal info and names of people caught in surveillance, or leaked classified info, surveilled an incoming President, or lied to get FISA warrants, or lied under oath.

Dems would lose their shit if they were censored like conservatives are, if they were targeted by the IRS like conservatives were, if they were treated like Republican NRA members are by leftist activist and media, if their candidate had been solicited and spied on and had a bogus dossier funded, if they were being followed to campus and to rallies to be assaulted and silenced, had deep state working against them, or actually faced the consequences of their actions (they never do).

When you realize they’re just pure evil and hungry for power, nothing surprises you. People like Bogans are just what Lenin called “useful idiots.” They’re dumb and they’re fine for derailing convos and posting dumb stuff on the internet like a nice foot soldier but in the end, just a tool for the left.
 
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